Poll: Can a game ever make you say "This game should not exist"?

[WhiteNachos]

Wow, strong defense of child porn here, a little surprised.

If it's child porn than Saw is a snuff film.

It's not a moral gray area, though.

I agree, no one is getting hurt or abused as a result of playing/making this game so it's not immoral.

 

[Fox12]

Wow, strong defense of child porn here, a little surprised.

The legality of games like rapelay are a gray area. People have been successfully prosecuted for owning fictional images of naked children before. Others have managed to avoid prosecution. It's not a moral gray area, though. If you play such games, then frankly you are subhuman. If you defend it for the sake of free speech, then I can understand your sentiment, but I frankly couldn't care less if such games were banned.

You aren't even giving any counter arguments anymore. Just throwing insults.

The only people I've really insulted are people who actually play the game, and for that I don't apologize. However...

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You know, this is one thing I hate so much about the internet nowadays (not hating you, just your stance on the matter) People like to bang on and on about how everyone of every sexual interest and inclination shouldn't be prejudiced against... Except for pedophiles. They don't even get fictional porn, completely harmless to absolutely everyone simply because you don't share their fetish. Same goes for people who actually do have a rape fetish. Someone needs to check their Vanilla Privilege.

(Note: In case it isn't obvious, I am not advocating for actual rape or actual child pornography. That's super bad. However, There is literally no reason that people should be discriminated against for trying to solve their very illegal perversions through safe means.)

Ot: The only games that really shouldn't exist are about 90% of what Good Mr. Sterling, son covers over at youtube. Glitchy broken messes that are quickly shat out to make a quick buck off of unity stock assets and incompetech music

...some really good points have been made. At least, it's given me some food for thought, so perhaps I'll re-revaluate my position somewhat. I still consider such games as refuse, and I would probably have a low opinion of anyone who played them, but perhaps the degree to which something should be banned is debatable. For instance, is the photo of naked Vietnamese children fleeing a burning village child porn just because it features naked children? Of course not. Is it okay for some works of fiction to explore themes of child abuse? I would say so, certainly.

It's also fair to point out that perhaps we should rethink our view of pedophilia. If someone has those urges, but refuses to act on them, then that's not really something you should condemn that person for. Instead, it's better to understand the condition, and it's difficult to do that without removing some of the stigma.

I still don't think rapelay should exist, and I wish it didn't. However, should it be legally banned by the government? well... I don't know.

 

[Javetts Eall Raksha]

i said that about half life 3, glad someone listened to me.

 

[ecoho]

Dragon Age 2
Beyond: Two Souls
The Witcher 2
Watch_Dogs
Remember Me
Batman: Arkham Origins
Every single Call of Duty after Modern Warfare
Every single Assassins Creed after the first one
Every single Resident Evil after the 4th one
Tomb Rider and Thief reboots
Crysis 2
Fallout 3

Yeah, there's a fuckton of games that made me say "This game should not exist"

you sir have truly never played a bad game if all you listing are those that were at worse lack luster (except remember me that was just plain awful)

Go play drake of the 99 dragons and tell me any of these even come close to bad.

on a side note im proud of the escapist so far as it took 39 posts to hear someone bitching about Dragon age 2 and watch dogs.

 

[viranimus]

About 85% of "indie" games as their developers would have been better served by getting a job with an actual studio Or building a demo game to use as Proof of concept to get an actual job instead of the muck and mire that is 10k "developers" trying to push their hyper niche concept that has even less appeal than compelling unique gameplay elements.

On topic however, One mans offensive, is another mans compelling. If gaming intends to move beyond being "toys" and taken seriously, then yes it needs to be able to deal with mature and complex issues, regardless if people get offended by it or not. The problem isnt gaming, the problem there is people have skin made up of soaking wet single ply toilet paper.

 

[ecoho]

you sir have truly never played a bad game if all you listing are those that were at worse lack luster (except remember me that was just plain awful)

Pure trash of the games does not have the weight of it's name, other ingame features, marketing or popularity on it's shoulders. When a new pointless movie adaptation game comes out and is shit - it's nothing unexpected, it's only the natural course of action. If I see a rather bad game AAA instead of a promised revelation and it's a pretender for GOTY - than I see the world going mad.
Remember - Daikatana is also far from the actually worst shooter ever made. The thing is - it was a bad game by JOHN MOTHAFUCKING ROMERO!

I never really had any trouble with it. Are you sure it's bad, or is it that you're just bad at it?

You're assuming a lot. No amount of perfecting makes it any less awful. It's combines targeting-based damaging system with wonky console controls, glacier movement, slow and random attack animations and worst of all - D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-DAMAGE SPONGES. Say what you will about TW1, but at least it's simplistic combat system flowed greatly - Geralt was mobile, agile and player controlled the way combat developed. A fool cuts you out? Salto over a bastard! Enemies surround you from every side? Make two group-style combinations to throw them off, cst Aard on one side of them to get those on their asses and switch to quick style to finish of that fool that dares to start channeling an attack. Somewhat ARPG-ish, but still natural and free-flowing.
TW2? No matter how far I played, what signs got and how many skillpoints sunk in combat - it still remainded the fucking same. Roll-roll-roll-STAB-roll-roll-roll-fail a STAB because Geralt chose the worst animation possible-roll-roll-roll-roll-fail a stab because another enemy came in front of the targeted one and of course your blade and the non-targeted enemies are considered existing in different realities. Or you could play an endless line of glorified QTEs in form of riposte counters and their coming ones... Only it's actually far more repetitive than TW1's rather repetitive combat and absolutely does not work if enemies are coming from more than one direction. So, ROLLING TIME!

I just refuse to give a pass to this peace of shit in the world where good TPA combat exists.

>Git gewd!
I kick ass in Mount & Blade and Dark Souls, and there is no way this fart of a combat system is any way more complex or deep. It's simply VERY bad, especially compared to those two.

Snippy

Also, this gentlemen knows what he's talking about.

but the fact still remains that they are not bad games simply games that are meh or ones that just don't work for you. truly bad games don't deserve to exist maybe but games that just simply didn't perform as well as some think they should definitely deserve to exist if for nothing else then as a stepping stone to better new games. Remember you learn more from failure then from success.

 

[McMarbles]

About 95% of the games on the App Store shouldn't exist.

 

[cleric of the order]

no, no full game should b removed or cease to exist.
Even the worst, vilest, was a product of time, effort of the person that made it, so in that sense it should at least have earned the right to exist

 

[go-10]

E.T. for the Atari
Naruto/Bleach/One Piece Online click a thons
Superman 64
Aquaman Battle for Atlantis

there's nothing wrong with Hatred IMO, sure it's just a reskin of Dead Nation but that doesn't mean it shouldn't exist. It's just a bad game, there's nothing wrong with those. Now broken/unplayable games, those shouldn't exist

 

[Lufia Erim]

I think it would take some Matrix level, 'Die in the game = die in real life' degree of harmfulness for me to doubt the wisdom of letting a game exist. Particularly if people were somehow unaware of this while playing it. This seems like an unlikely situation though.

VR is comming. VR SIMS is gonna get SO MANY people killed. I'm calling it right now.

OT: No. The only things that shouldn't exist are blatant copy-pasted games like most of the casual iphone games.

 

[murrow]

In terms of artistic expression, no. There's only pain down that road.

In terms of general awfulness, also no. We need awful games as a reminder of what not to do in good games. Knowing what the worst case scenario can be in case your gimmicky new mechanic fails can be a great benchmark for other developers.

 

[CaitSeith]

I'm far more offended by games that are cash-grabs with no redeemable value than those with controversial topics. Although I'm not sure if a game about pedophilia would be a good idea.

 

[Pyrian]

I could conceive of games that shouldn't exist. Let's say the voice acting was performed by actually murdering innocent children. That shouldn't exist. Or even just a game that formats your hard drive. That would be bad. Games that actually exist that shouldn't? Meh. Not anything I've heard of.

 

[Treeberry]

Probably.

Off the top of my head I can't think of one that shouldn't exist, presumably because I'm fortunate enough not to know/have played such a game.

Now, features that shouldn't be around (lack of pause button or ability to manually save in this day and age) or games that could've been something else (i.e. better as a new IP instead of a reboot or sequel)? I can think of plenty of those. Especially from this last generation.

 

[Evonisia]

Initially, I would say that games that only exist to fill a check list (CoD: Ghosts and Halo 4 come to mind from that) shouldn't exist. On thinking it over a bit, though, I would say even cynical games[footnote]CoD: Ghosts, Halo 4[/footnote], broken games[footnote]AssCreed Unity[/footnote] and games that try but fail[footnote]Mirror's Edge[/footnote] can all provide entertainment to somebody. As far as I'm concerned, the game succeeds at gaining a right to exist based on that alone.