Poll: Can England be invaded

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Schmee said:
England can be invaded, and has been a couple times. I'm fine in Scotland, so far unconquered, and since we werent included in the "invulnerable" statment then uhm, we could just walk over the border, invasion commences.
With all due respect for the scots, they did get conquered - but they simply rose up again a few years later. King Edward 'Hammer of the Scots' Longshanks did a serious number on Scotland, but his son was a pussy and Rob the Bruce kicked his arse.

Actually Scotland is a juicier target for invasion than England - here's why: North Sea Oil.
Nothing worth invading England, Wales or Ireland for these days, being short on natural resources, but Scotland has North Sea Oil. We all know what our 'special' friends across the pond are thirsty enough to start an illegal war of aggression for.
 

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Obviously it's not impossible to invade and conquer Britain, but considering the last -successful- invasion was performed by the Normans under William the Conqueror in 1066... close to a millenia ago... and now they have tons of allies that will come to their aid if you even try, I settle with "It's kinda hard" : P
 

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Selvalros said:
No country is invulnerable and to believe so is to give into hubris. All the greatest empires have fallen to the test of time, England is no different as a nation, just give it a few hundred years.
England as an Empire already HAS fallen. If you want the nation to dissolve, you might live to see it (If you class going from nation to state in the EU).

On topic - Don't be daft, we'd get wiped out in a few weeks. One on one we could probably put up a fight with the best of 'em, but America and China would probably be able to pull it off. That changes dramatically tho if our Government would let civilians own weapons again tho.
 

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Trivun said:
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Schmee said:
England can be invaded, and has been a couple times. I'm fine in Scotland, so far unconquered, and since we werent included in the "invulnerable" statment then uhm, we could just walk over the border, invasion commences.
By the way, England hasn't been successfully invaded since 1066. Since then, the English have beaten the Scottish in several wars and it was only the rise of the Stuart monarchy that finally united the two countries. Hence your comment is historically BS. Sorry, but any history textbook will support my statement over yours.
I agree with you about UK invading US and vise versa, but I'm pretty sure that U.S. Armed Forces have first-hand experience with U.S. military training, as well. And as a legitimate question, does the UK military have the newer guns, like you see on Discovery Channel?
 

Danny Ocean

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Britain is no longer famed for it's military, but it is famed for the military prowess it possesses.

Britain isn't big enough to fight a war on it's own, so it needs support in the form of (Usually) lots and lots of American manpower. Or, conversely, the copious American manpower needs the proficiency of the British support troops. We're the go-to guy for military support, since our units are so highly trained and equipped. Well- that was the plan anyway.

We're kinda like the Eldar.


Why the hell does everyone keep citing history here.

The question is CAN Britain be invaded. Not WAS Britain invaded. Times, strategies, and armies have changed significantly since 1066, Saxon invasions, WWI, WWII and so on. Nothing is the same since even WWII, so you can't cite them as some kind of precedence that we'll be invaded.

On a lighter note, don't you just love this:

Wikipedia Challenger 2 Page said:
Crew and accommodation
The British Army maintained its requirement for a four-man crew (including a loader) after risk analysis of the incorporation of an automatic loader suggested that auto-loaders reduced battlefield survivability. Mechanical failure and the time required for repair are prime concerns. A human loader is able to maintain a higher rate of fire than is possible with current auto-loaders, and can assist with maintenance of the vehicle.
Like every British tank since the Centurion, Challenger 2 contains a boiling vessel (BV) also known as a kettle or "bivvie" for water which can be used to brew tea, produce other hot beverages and heat "boil-in-the-bag" meals contained in ration packs. Most other British AFVs also have BVs.[7]
This BV requirement is general across the board for armoured vehicles of the British Armed Forces, and is one such requirement almost unique to the Armed forces of the UK.
 

Mystic Beef

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Is this the tank you are thinking of? [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Challenger_2]

The odds are even worse. 30:1
These things are so tough .. "In one encounter within the urban area a Challenger 2 came under attack from irregular forces with machine guns and rocket propelled grenades. The driver's sight was damaged and while attempting to back away under the commander's directions, the other sights were damaged and the tank threw its tracks entering a ditch. It was hit directly by eight rocket propelled grenades from close range and a MILAN anti-tank missile, and was under heavy small arms fire for hours. The crew survived remaining safe within the tank until the tank was recovered for repairs, the worst damage being to the sighting system. It was back in operation six hours later after the repairs"

and if that didn't impress you "One Challenger 2 operating near Basra survived being hit by 70 RPGs in another incident."

On topic I think England could hold off most countries but wouldn't have a chance against the whole world.
 

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oliveira8 said:
Well...Yes it can be invaded...the Romans invaded Britannia, they just didn't go very far, cause it wasn't worth it.

And that remains its major ace. Its just expensive to go invade Britain and maintain it.

But if the whole world attacked Britain...they wouldn't stand a chance.
The question shouldd be can scotland be invaded since the romans bricked it when they saw us:)
 

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Blitzkrieg8 said:
my bother thinks that England is invunrable to any attack even if the entire world formed a joint task to take down England. don't get in to why the world is invading England.

No Nukes!

[edit] could england defend it's self against each country one on one. Also new opinion in poll

nothing is impossible to invade, with a little can-do attitude and the right stratigy
it makes it hard becuase its a giant island...naval attacks would be hard enough becuase of the land attacks + interception.
then air attacks would be hard due to ground attacks + more air interception.
and then its practically impossible to have ground forces there unless you had a spy fuck up the battle grid then everytime someone called in support that shits landing 30 miles away.
 

ironmace2.0

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UK yes but it would be hardish England yes damn! I live in England I hope after reading this topic then UN wont kill us...
 

oliveira8

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poncho14 said:
oliveira8 said:
Well...Yes it can be invaded...the Romans invaded Britannia, they just didn't go very far, cause it wasn't worth it.

And that remains its major ace. Its just expensive to go invade Britain and maintain it.

But if the whole world attacked Britain...they wouldn't stand a chance.
The question shouldd be can scotland be invaded since the romans bricked it when they saw us:)
No cause Scotland has nothing valuable apart from sheeps.


And some funky stones.
 

Balgus

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no natural resources of any value and we're too busy being racist on our own soil to worry about doing it abroad (apart from football matches) we're easily invadable but why would you want to?
 

El Poncho

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ElephantGuts said:
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Pff. England? Invulnerable? If you didn't have such good pilots you'd be posing that question in German. Answer to your question being, no.
Good pilots & moral, not to mention the genius who invented the spitfire. Not to mention an amazing navy.
May want to brush up on your history.
You might want to brush up on your history, since the Hurricane got more kills during the Battle of Britain than the Spitfire. And the Royal Navy wasn't a particularly big obstacle for Hitler in invading Britain; they didn't have enough of a presence in the English Channel to prevent an invasion. And morale doesn't stop a Panzer III from gunning you down.
but hitler didnt invade britain :S all he did was bomb us so we couldnt help defend the other countries:|
 

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If we think about it, we are pretty much untouchable. If some-one tried to invade us, they would have all of our Allies fighting them as well.

We are also a naturally fortified Island with one of the best trained Armed Forces in the world. Our navy is also considered to be one of the best in the world, too.
 

SenseOfTumour

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Also, can we quit with the tired old 'You'd all be speaking German by now'?

As a Brit, I know for a fact the Germans could have been teaching us their language for 8 hours a day since 1945 and half of us would still be struggling to pick it up.

Languages aren't really our strong point, we prefer to point at what we want and speak slower and louder if we have to communicate with foreign types :D