Poll: Can there ever be a good Superman game?

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ChromeAlchemist

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Essentially the only way you can make this game is by making it that he loses when innocents die. That way you can fight random goons but it becomes a challenge because civillians are in harms way.

If you're not doing it like that, he'd have to fight, what...3 people? The Flash, Green Lantern and Doomsday? And I guess Spectre and Wonder Woman but that's it. It'd be a half an hour game on XBLA and cost £10.

Or make it an RPG. Make the story interesting and have him deal with hiding his identity.
 

IamSofaKingRaw

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Its near impossible unless they make up some plot to weaken him. There is no challenge in the games because Superman himself can't die (unless your enemies get krytonite armor or something) and he is stronger than everybody else. Batman is human he can get shot up so he has to focus on stealth for the majority of his crime fighting, and Spiderman is alsonot invulnerable to everything so he has to rely on his agility to protect himself. Superman is too overpowered to make a challenging game without fucking with the story.
 

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I think the primary problem with superman is the setting. There are very few people on the DC earth who would pose a threat. I mean there might be Specter, Manchester Black, Black Adam (maybe) and that dude with the ability to both copy powers and increase them (Paradigm? Paragon? I forget his name, but he was a villain but helped superman fight the giant daxamite robot thing) but for the most part most of the enemies superman is a match for are not on earth.

Now, if they did a game in outer space, or with lots of alien enemies, THAT might have potential. Perhaps if they made a game based on the Miniseries "invasion" where a whole bunch of different alien races team up to take Earth down, we might have an exiting game.

Still, I think there are plenty of DC universe characters who would lend themselves better to a video game than superman. Admittedly, most aren't exactly top tier, but I would love to see games based around characters such as Green Arrow, Flash, the JSA, Blue Beetle (either Ted Kord or Jamie Reyes), maybe even Booster Gold.
 
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i think if they did an interactive story of supermans life, kind of like a combination of half life storytelling, dynasty warriors type gameplay, maybe mixed in with some fable environment interaction/openworldedness. i think that'd be a kickass superman game.
 

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TheGreenManalishi said:
PayJ567 said:
SomeBritishDude said:
the most infamous example being Superman for the nintendo 64 which is reguarded as one of the worst games ever made,
Earth to captain moron here, that game was fucking excellent! I would prefer it if you didn't insult the greatest contribution to gaming of our generation.
I was quite partial to some Power Rangers and Carmageddon on my N64.

Superman can't make a good game character because the gameplay wouldn't change throughout the game. He'd have all his abilities at the beginning and, as someone who can go any place on the planet any time he wants, it would be easy to make the game feel small or confined. Still, there must be someone with good ideas for old Soupy to feature in a decent game.
I was always more of a Daikatana kind of guy, myself.
 

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PayJ567 said:
SomeBritishDude said:
the most infamous example being Superman for the nintendo 64 which is reguarded as one of the worst games ever made,
Earth to captain moron here, that game was fucking excellent! I would prefer it if you didn't insult the greatest contribution to gaming of our generation.
you just made the list. :-I

seriuosly though, i never really followed the batman wanna bes back story... why is a man from Krypton so allergice to Kryptonite? that would be like someone from Earth being allergic to soil...
 

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I would have to beg to differ; the 90's animated series pitted Supes against some pretty powerful enemies, not the least of which being Metallo, Brainiac and Darkseid, so his super-ness isn't really an issue. Shoot, even Lex Luthor, a normal human, can and has been an imposing villain and Superman's arch-nemesis.

Gameplay... I think it'd work best as a beat-em-up, but instead of combos and special weapons (heat-vision, ice breath and the like are present at the start) you instead combat insane numbers of mooks. Brainiac and Darkseid have zillions of those.

Story might sound like it'd be sparse at best, but I think there's a potential for some drama. NO clue where this drama is, but it's in there somewhere...

Bottom line: YES, there could be a good Superman game. IS it going to be made anytime soon? Nnnnnnnno, I wouldn't think so. On the other hand, Duke Nukem Forever is on its way; perhaps Hell will completely freeze over one day, and the Man of Steel will get a game worthy of his splendor.
 

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HotFezz8 said:
seriuosly though, i never really followed the batman wanna bes back story... why is a man from Krypton so allergice to Kryptonite? that would be like someone from Earth being allergic to soil...
Actually it'd be like being "allergice" to radioactive dirt...since it's radioactive kryptonian rock.

Blue-State said:
Fuck possibilities! I DON'T WANT THERE TO BE A GOOD SUPERMAN GAME! He is the most OVER-HYPED, OVER-RATED, OVER-POWERED douche bag in comic book history. He's an illegal alien taking jobs away from honest, hard working, MORTAL American heroes.
[img/]http://comicmastersonline.com/shop/images/All%20Star%20Superman%20Vol%201.jpg[/img]
Then get back to me.
 

atol

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I preordered Superman 64 for $70 as a kid.
I can't say I care.
 

irani_che

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the main problem i see to a superman game is that he is indestructable.
If you have ever used a cheat in a game to get god mode then for a while you get excited as you can now defeat the iritatingly impossible to kill boss or baddies but after about 5 minutes you are in hell, walking up to them and mele killing them while thinking about what is on the telly. After 10 minutes you either can not play the game anymore or you set him back to vulnerable.


And that leaves a superman in a paradox, either it remains true to the comic, and you cannot lose. or they make it a challenge to play and anyone who even has the slightest inklingof supermans powers gets annoyed and calls you a tosser for making a superman who ca die and therefore is not the real superman
 

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Mafoobula said:
Bottom line: YES, there could be a good Superman game. IS it going to be made anytime soon? Nnnnnnnno, I wouldn't think so. On the other hand, Duke Nukem Forever is on its way; perhaps Hell will completely freeze over one day, and the Man of Steel will get a game worthy of his splendor.
Well I know they're planning to do a reboot movie in the next few years so superman hype will be high down the line, especially if it's actually any good. They may just pump out a crappy tie in game OR they could do what rocksteady did and use the dark knights hype to create a game with that character without it actually tieing in to the story. If it's happening it won't be next year, or maybe even the one after that, but it could come.
 

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irani_che said:
the main problem i see to a superman game is that he is indestructable.
If you have ever used a cheat in a game to get god mode then for a while you get excited as you can now defeat the iritatingly impossible to kill boss or baddies but after about 5 minutes you are in hell, walking up to them and mele killing them while thinking about what is on the telly. After 10 minutes you either can not play the game anymore or you set him back to vulnerable.


And that leaves a superman in a paradox, either it remains true to the comic, and you cannot lose. or they make it a challenge to play and anyone who even has the slightest inklingof supermans powers gets annoyed and calls you a tosser for making a superman who ca die and therefore is not the real superman
There could be something else at stake other than your life. There are a couple of examples of games now where you can't die now-a-days like Fable 2 and 3, even examples with it's still being a challenge despite it.
 

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It would not work.

Why? Because for one thing, flying has never been handled very well within games least off flying faster than a speeding bullit.

But most of all, every game needs restrictions inorder too create challenge. Superman is restricted by nothing.
 

Guitarmasterx7

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Superman returns had surprisingly good flight mechanics. Download the demo, seriously, it's quite fun. Combat is shit though.

I would say you could do it, it's just that noone ever will.
 

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After playing through games like inFamous and Prototype, I do think there is potential for a decent Superman game. How about this:

Open-world style. The game world would consist of Metropolis, plus a lot of country side areas (like the worlds of GTA:SA or Just Cause 2). There would be other areas that the player could fly too, like the Fortress of Solitude (which you would get to by flying to the northern edge of the map) or even SPACE. Quick transport would never be an issue, seeing as how you can just FLY EVERYWHERE.

Most of the game would take place in the city, but the countryside would play host to things like the opening and tutorials, as well as the occasional large scale boss battle. Just imagine a mission where you're trying to slow down Doomsday as he makes his way to Metropolis, then fighting him in the city streets.

The issue of character building is a tough one. The systems seen in inFamous and Prototype, unlocking powers through the story missions, don't work with the Superman mythos. On the other hand, simply giving him a full set of powers at the start would make a for lengthy starting tutorial, and wreck game balance. The best system I could suggest would be something in between. You would have ALL the powers available at the start, BUT they would be weak and unrefined. You would gather XP from story missions and side-tasks, and would spend that on upgrading, say, the range and damage of your Heat Ray.

The story would involve some shit with Lex Luthor. Because why the fuck not? Also, a Luthor-centric story shouldn't stop us from bringing in some other classic villains. WOOHOO Brainiac and General Zod!

On the side, you could also engage in foiling robberies (by just grabbing the robbers getaway car, and dropping it a prison courtyard), saving people from burning buildings, throw down with hoodlums.... You know, Superman-y stuff.

OH, and time trial races where YOU FLY THROUGH RINGS! Gotta have some of those!
 

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Let's see. Considering that you would play as someone with superhuman abilities, who is unbelievably strong, fast, and, most importantly, VIRTUALLY INVULNERABLE, making a game about Superman challenging enough to actually be compelling is a pretty big challenge.

You could always make the game challenging by making the focus of the game protecting all the fleshy mortals standing around gawking at Superman's prowess in fighting the forces of evil (instead of running for the hills like they should), and make beating up bad guys a secondary objective. While this would be an accurate representation of Superman's moral code, the entire game would basically be an escort mission, and escort missions usually suck (almost as bad as sewer levels).

Either that or you have to do something really contrived, like make the game about Superman's battle against a fleet of aliens in kryptonite-powered robot suits, but if you're going to do that then why make a Superman game at all? You might as well make a game titled "Captain Really Strong but Not Invincible Guy vs the Invaders from Planet Xenu" and save some money on licensing fees and royalties. Unless you have to license Xenu from the Church of Scientology and pay royalties to L. Ron Hubbard, but I digress.

Or you make put extremely unforgiving time limits on all your missions, and force the player to fly through ring challenges to get where they're going, and barely give them any instructions about what they're supposed to be doing at any given time. That's... well... pretty challenging. I guess.

(Shudder)

My point is, you can't really make a game like this challenging without losing some fun. Either you make the game challenging by adding a bunch of annoying side-objectives, or by taking away Superman's invulnerability, which is to take away a big part of what we want to experience when we play a game about Superman.

Again, it's a big challenge, and it'd take a smarter man than I to build a Superman game that actually works.
 

jrizzle90

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personally I love open world experiences. It really allows you to take on the world as you see fit. who better to do that with than an over-powered superhero? Who the hell wouldn't want to leap tall buildings in a single bound or fly into space. that would be epic.
 

Tanis

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If BATMAN can get a good game, I don't see why Sups can't get a decent one.
What are you, anti-Semitic?

Personally, I enjoyed 'The Death & Return of Superman' for the SNES.
It was a simple beat-em-up with some damn good graphics.


I do think that a 'truly good' Superman game is kind of hard because of the character.
He's way too overpowered and most games treat him as very one dimensional (fighting wise) never really going into the other mythology where he build freaking PLANETS!


I'd love to see a 'Superman: Origins' game where you start off on Krypton and go through the life of Clark Kent as he's gaining his superpowers and traveling the world trying to discover himself.
It'd make for some decent story telling and give reason as to why 'Superman' really isn't all that 'super' yet.