Poll: Capitalism or Communism?

chris11246

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you need an option for combinations of them. I feel that we need capitalism with some communist programs to help people who need help, but only people who need it because of things out of their control or people who are willing to work to help their situation. Also the best way to deal with business is to have as few regulations as possible but to make them good regulations.

I think all options require that people do their part, which is why most economies fail eventually. Once people become complacent things fall apart.
 

Lilani

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I'd take capitalism over communism any day, but with regulation of course. Laissez-faire has been tried in the past, and it just fails miserably whenever things get too big or somebody gets too greedy.
 

LITE992

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I like communism because its intentions are for equality, but as long as money and greed exist it won't work. I prefer capitalism because 1) I live in a capitalist country, and 2) I have more freedom. Of course there is barely any equality and anybody with lots of money can walk on anybody with no money.
 

SnakeoilSage

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Both capitalism and communism are fundamentally broken because neither takes into account the sheer power of human ego-centrism. Capitalism fails because it is a system meant to allow the individual to prosper, something that can't occur without the permission of the society he exists in, and which cannot happen as long as there is someone less prosperous as he is. Communism fails because it requires absolute conformity and self-denial for the good of the whole, which aside from rare exceptions is impossible to guarantee in a society without strict enforcement, creating the oligarchies that have controlled so-called "communist" countries since the earliest days of the Soviet Union, which completely destroys the ideology: communism was founded in the belief that man's better nature would somehow render hierarchies obsolete, and in practice communism has only proven that a society cannot exist without them.

On top of that, both ideologies were born from an age with very limited understanding of sociology and the progress of the human race in general. To embrace one is to embrace a system as fundamentally flawed as a theocracy or dictatorship, the opposite ends of the spectrum that create omni-present central controlling figures (God, the Fearless Leader, etc.) who decide all facets of their society either through direct command or indirect interpretation.

It is the 21st Century. We cannot afford to base societies around such antiquated, fanciful designs.
 

Metanar

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There are no examples of communism to base an evaluation of "how well it works". Marxist social evolution describes the state of the countries claiming to be communist (USSR before it broke up, China, Cuba, NK etc.) as dictatorships of the proletariat. Essentially a short 'transitioning' stage before the state can be gradually broken down. Personally I feel that capitalism is a disgusting system that we need to be working away from, but not necessarily towards a Marxist definition of communism as it is too vague and leaves far too much room for a permanent dictatorship to take over.
 

Kiefer13

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Capitialism. But appropriately regulated capitalism, not ultra libertarian laissez-faire capitialism. That shit be crazy.

Pretty much this.
 

spartan231490

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Communism fails. That's just the way it works. Truthfully, I don't understand how anyone can think it would work. It's based on the principle that your work is not worth anything, and on the principle that you can get something for nothing. Two obvious inaccuracies. Further, the only logical result of communism is a radical decrease in productivity, and an ever increasing chance of shortages.

Capitalism may have it's flaws, but it's no where near as bad as communism.
 

spartan231490

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orangeban said:
Communism! Seriously, it may not of worked for the other countries who tried it, but if you get honest leaders and slowly (slowly!) transistion the country, then shit'll be just fine.

Capitalism is morally unjustifiable.
"If you get honest leaders"

I wouldn't hold my breath. Ever. And it's not just the leaders, every single level of the system would need to be free of corruption, which is a problem since people are inherently selfish.
 

Kpt._Rob

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I'm going to go ahead and say that they're both overwhelmingly shitty, and I eagerly await the day when this planet is run by our robot overlords who will develop some sort of far superior system.
 

Jegsimmons

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well of course capitalism, the only problem with it is that people keep fucking with it when it doesn't need it.
capitalism is based on choice and the will of the consumer, communism is just a piece of shit economic theory that's so easily corrupted because it doesn't account on human variables that is impossible to put into practice with good results.
 

Combustion Kevin

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both aren't working out, really, communism is unrealisticly idealistic and capitalism far too pragmatic.

a delicate balance needs to be found between government regulation and corperate freedom, with neither side fully running the show.

well, back to the drawing board.
 

peruvianskys

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I'm pro-market but I wouldn't necessarily identify with capitalism itself, although I much prefer to to communism.
 

plugav

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My general sympathies lie with the left, but communism only works on paper or in very small communities. History proves capitalism to be superior. (Government-regulated capitalism, mind you.)
 

DirgeNovak

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Communism would be the best system in a utopia, but giving so much power to the government pretty much endures they'll abuse it, man being what he is. So my vote goes to capitalism, if only out of spite.
 

Talvrae

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Capitalism is the only system that work, what fail is staitism. i'm all for Open Market. It's freedom, liberty of choice, free enterprise. While Communism is all about centerisation, giving up our freedom to a ruler class who choose what's good for you
 

HerbertTheHamster

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Conza said:
Jak23 said:
I was wondering what the general consensus is, please comment and tell us why.
My vote goes to Capitalism, because imo if you say Communism, you haven't seen/been in a Communist country.
They are not mutually exclusive!

Look at China, both Capitalist and Communist.
China is state capitalist. Fairly similar to Nazi Germany, actually.

Works pretty well I suppose. The thing about Communism though is that the word is completely meaningless. It's supposed to be an economic system but ends up being a type of government.

oh who the fuck am I kidding nobody (including me) knows a fuck about economics here
 

RagTagBand

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Both, on their own, are fundamentally flawed - Communism tries to ignore the dark side of Human Nature whilst Capitalism actively encourages it.
 

kuyo

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Having grown up with Ducktales on the air, I know full well where my loyalties lie.
 

kiwi_poo

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communism will never work in a society with a population higher than, say a few thousand

capitalism sucks, no matter how many people you have.

this video rather perfectly illustrates my point: