Poll: Censorship

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Mikaze

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dmase said:
The best type of censorship is the way they rate movies based on R and PG and what not that should really be all that anybody needs. This movie includes this, this, and this if it offends you don't watch it. That is probably the best form of censorship.
That isn't really censorship, more a rating of content. But still, by far the best system I've ever come across. We just need to get a damn R18+ rating for games in Australia and we'll be set.
 

Motti

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MmmFiber said:
Life ends up being pretty vulgar, even when you are a child. Media tends to not compare with reality.
Considering that a little over 100 years ago, poor kids were sent to work in coal mines, factories and what have you where bloody industrial accidents are common. Not even to mention hangings, beheadings, wars and the ol' guillotine even further back.
Kids today sicken me.
 

LockHeart

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Things should only be censored where there is evidence that someone was abused/exploited in its creation, i.e. child porn, snuff silms etc. Otherwise, nothing should be censored.

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cleverlymadeup said:
well see for all those saying "freedom of speech" their is a big issue with that. see i could easily go around saying " is a pedophile and likes to do funny things with young boys" and when they try to stop me claim freedom of speech and in the process ruin the person's reputation because no one will remember that i had to retract the statement just that the statement was made

so yes censorship can be a good thing
I completely agree, and you have my support. All rights (free speech, free association, free religion) are restrained by the harm that can be done to others. Your right to religious practice doesn't allow you to commit statutory rape. Your right to free association doesn't give you the right to lynch someone. Your right to free speech doesn't give you the right to slander someone.

Censorship is good when used to protect the sense and sensibilities of the community, and protect people either from defamation, direct harm, or just things which gross them out. Community standards are the standard for review by the FCC, and it's worked pretty well so far. If it's on a form of media which one can accidentally stumble into, it's held to a higher standard than if I have to work to go see it. So, there shouldn't be absolute censorship (except with regards to slander/libel), but there should be censorship about what can be shown where.
In actual fact, libel/slander cases tend to be a more reactionary method that occurs after something defamatory has been said/published. Judges will only rarely grant an injunction against publication and then only if there is a prima facie case against the defendant. These sort of cases rarely occur before the release of defamatory statements into the public domain.

To be honest, I think anything other than the cases involving exploitation that I mentioned above should be able to be shown anywhere, I doubt anything would change. TV stations showing porn or the like in daytime would be blacklisted by many parents, thus causing ratings and subsequent income to drop. It would be counterproductive to do so.
 

FISHFINGERS

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To be honest there are some things people just shouldn't see. I.e. Rape and murder or anything where the participants are unwilling and don't give consent. Otherwise I have no problem letting people see what they are mentally mature enough to see.
Failing the introduction of maturity exams I guess we will just have to keep on using arbitrary age ranges then.

As far as language goes, let them say what the hell they like. It just gives you more opportunities to expose their stupidity.
 

Time Travelling Toaster

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Some censorship is needed if it's not contextual in games I'm thinking. If the censorship is censoring an important part of the story then its bad, but if it's an unimportant part and is either to offensive to the masses or just plain sick then its ok.
 

Agayek

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Seldon2639 said:
It depends on the access point. One of the big questions in obscenity rulings, for instance, is how accessible the material is, and how easy it is to avoid it. Material you have to go out of your way to access is rarely considered obscene (no matter what it is). If I have to go to a website to see smut, it's not obscene. If it's played on broadcast TV, it may very well be. Context is king.
That may be the legal idea, but I disagree. It should not be illegal to have a full on bondage session broadcast on national television, in my opinion.

Forcing someone to watch it should be, but broadcasting it, no.

There's a series of very, very simple solution to witnessing something offensive:

1) Look away
2) Turn off the TV/Radio/whatever medium you witness it through
3) Walk away
4) Yell at the guy to GTFO
 

Kiefer13

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Oopsie said:
No Censorship. Ever.
This. Perhaps if an image is particularly disturbing, it could be given a disclaimer, much like spoilering something on a forum, but actually censoring ANYTHING is just wrong.
 

Inco

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Define the context, if its censorship of everything that is even partially obscure then no.
But if it blocks things like child porn and things that would get you locked up and ridiculed by society then i wouldn't care, means that i will not accidentally find it.

But i prefer to have the option of uncensored content, cause it makes me feel more responsible on the net and not being treated like a child to what i do on it. Cause remember, good parenting equates to people who don't need it, bad parenting equates to people who do need it (censorship)
 
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it's good to have a watershed
and there should be two, one at 9 and one at 11 for different material

but nothing beyond that is good, except maybe when tv companies put in things like showing graphics suicide for shock value - that should be censored cause it's just unneccessary
 

tenlong

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ravensheart18 said:
tenlong said:
screw censorship. just keep 18 + material from kids as much as possible.
That would be a form of censorship.

Which is the point I think, some censorship in some circumstances makes sense. Saying otherwise tends to be a sign you are a bit immature and overly idealistic. The right to free speach is never unlimited and never should be, the classic US case being the "you can't scream fire in a crowded theater".


you got a good point. i just hate when stupid censors do dumb cuts to movies and shows. it reminds me of kill bill 1 . the bride killed countless people but she cant cut 2 arms off of one person. wtf but if she cuts off just one arm that's ok. how is that any less violent? i got another one . in the anime gantz they can show sex and gallons of bloods but bikers have to wear helmets. you see where i coming from ? if these edits make sense to you please tell me. i don't see why these edits are necessary. you see why i sick of stupid censorship.
 

Bourne Endeavor

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cleverlymadeup said:
well see for all those saying "freedom of speech" their is a big issue with that. see i could easily go around saying " is a pedophile and likes to do funny things with young boys" and when they try to stop me claim freedom of speech and in the process ruin the person's reputation because no one will remember that i had to retract the statement just that the statement was made

so yes censorship can be a good thing
You are correct, it is freedom of speech. Just be ready to defend that freedom in the lawsuit filed against you for Character Assassination, Harassment and etc.

Anyhow, I agree some things can be censored because I imagine without some restrictions it would get out of hand however the amount of censorship today is absolutely ridiculous. I mean you have some video games or television afraid to say "damn" or "Jesus Christ" because god forbid you offend someone, they will pitch a riot.

The problem is parents in today's society want everyone else to parent their children, yes I know this is a generalization however it is vastly accurate for the most part. Instead of being a proper parent and taking the time to listen to the music your child plays, watch the games they play and etc. They would rather everyone else tell them what should and should not be watched. Pathetic if you ask me.
 

xxnightlawxx

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censorship doesnt even do anything because i have 6 yeaer old cousins swearing as much as i do these days :pP
 

Zombie_Fish

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Goldeneye1989 said:
Yes ... why

what prevents an 10 year old from watching hostel/saw ect.

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The parents? His free will not to?

Censorship is useful to an extent. Besides it doesn't always stop them. Next person to quote this please answer this: How many times have either you or someone you know has gotten into a film under-aged or has seen a film somehow that was rated unsuitable for him to watch?

Quite often, censorship just encourages people to watch it when they're not meant to aswell, as it is cool to get into a movie under-aged or whatever. I'm not saying that we shouldn't have it entirely, as there should be things which are restrained (Such as the famous Sex Pistols interview where they were all very drunk and just swore lots at the entertainment of the presenter), but they shouldn't be as extreme as they are right now, where a guy was arrested for selling T-shirts with "Bollocks To Blair" written on them (That one was a very old case) and where you can't even protest without permission from the police.
 

InProgress

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I'd go with some censorship, depending on the context. Most things do not need censoring, even though they are. Try to hide something like pornography (just an example) from a kid and he/she'll go to great lengths just to watch it. Off course, some stuff like scat pornography and other freaky fetishes should be avoided from kids. But for mature people, censorship shouldn't exit. "Not Safe for Work" warinngs would be enough.

But of course, most things go to the extremes, the middle ground being completely forgotten by many.
 

Neonbob

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Sigh...I hate mandated censorship. I'm of the opinion that you should be able to say what you want, hear what you want, and see what you want, as long as you are an adult. Now, if parents want to censor what their kids are exposed to, that's fine with me. What bugs me about the censorship you get on the radio and tv is: