I'd prefer chaos unless I get to join some underground resistance in the tyranny. You only live once.
Poll: Chaos or Tyranny?
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Both would suck, and Tyranny would be better to live in. However,Chaos is better to live with yourself in. It's easier to carve a niche to survive and live in pure Chaos than it would be to truly live in a world of pure Tyranny.
This is a great question. But like a bunch of other folks, I chose my preferred option instead of the one I wanted to avoid ? derp.
I think I have a bleaker view of tyranny. All artistic medium would be unconditionally banned because (a) art is integrally political: ?even the view that art should not be political is itself a political attitude? ? George Orwell (appropriately ? lol) and (b) because tyranny. Further, some say we?ll still have services and still be safe in this society but I can?t see it. None of the services work in pure tyranny and there?s no universal healthcare ? let alone even dreadful universal healthcare. At least in tyranny we won?t starve though.
Besides, even though the killing and raping by the thought police wouldn?t be half as much as chaos raiders, they'll have nothing to oppose them. Either way, death is likely and you will live in fear. In chaos, me and my tribe will do our best and who knows, there?s still a minute sliver of a chance that chaos won?t result in tyranny and instead the civil war-like thing might result in a standoff. Also, I want to keep my books at least a while before I run out of firewood (other art will be problematic... but not impossible.)
I?ve read a few posts from libertarians saying they?ll prefer tyranny and give good and respectable reasons why. Weirdly enough I?m a socialist and I?d prefer chaos. Someone else said it?d be interesting to see how Americans voted in comparison to other places and I agree. (I?m British btw.)
Anyway, this is fun!
I think I have a bleaker view of tyranny. All artistic medium would be unconditionally banned because (a) art is integrally political: ?even the view that art should not be political is itself a political attitude? ? George Orwell (appropriately ? lol) and (b) because tyranny. Further, some say we?ll still have services and still be safe in this society but I can?t see it. None of the services work in pure tyranny and there?s no universal healthcare ? let alone even dreadful universal healthcare. At least in tyranny we won?t starve though.
Besides, even though the killing and raping by the thought police wouldn?t be half as much as chaos raiders, they'll have nothing to oppose them. Either way, death is likely and you will live in fear. In chaos, me and my tribe will do our best and who knows, there?s still a minute sliver of a chance that chaos won?t result in tyranny and instead the civil war-like thing might result in a standoff. Also, I want to keep my books at least a while before I run out of firewood (other art will be problematic... but not impossible.)
I?ve read a few posts from libertarians saying they?ll prefer tyranny and give good and respectable reasons why. Weirdly enough I?m a socialist and I?d prefer chaos. Someone else said it?d be interesting to see how Americans voted in comparison to other places and I agree. (I?m British btw.)
Anyway, this is fun!
Chaos. Ever heard of organized chaos? It's where things just sort of work, and that shit will happen eventually I guess. It's a long term solution though.
So I totally voted for Tyranny because I assumed it was what you'd rather live in. Guess that's what I get for not votin before I read the OP....oh well.
Reasons? I wouldn't last a fuckin day in a place without some form of order. I can barely fight, I get whiney when I haven't eaten in at least a day, I have literally no survival skills, and I have absolutely no ability to grow my own food. I'd be one of the first people picked off in a society without the society bit to which some of you would respond with the line "At least you'd die free." To which I respond "So fuckin what? All that freedom meant fuck once you're dead."
I will forever take the rule of law, even if it is only one persons rule of law, over rule of the strong over the weak.
Reasons? I wouldn't last a fuckin day in a place without some form of order. I can barely fight, I get whiney when I haven't eaten in at least a day, I have literally no survival skills, and I have absolutely no ability to grow my own food. I'd be one of the first people picked off in a society without the society bit to which some of you would respond with the line "At least you'd die free." To which I respond "So fuckin what? All that freedom meant fuck once you're dead."
I will forever take the rule of law, even if it is only one persons rule of law, over rule of the strong over the weak.
With this though, you'd have to keep in mind that you wouldn't really be living. You'd be surviving, sure, but what's the point in continuing to survive so that you can be miserable longer?shintakie10 said:
Maybe I'm just weird, but it certainly seems to me that a short life that you enjoy (or at least find rewarding) is worth far more than immortality being miserable.
How would livin in constant fear of some schmuck comin by and blastin you for literally no reason at all be rewardin at all is how I see it. In one scenario people like me are completely and utterly screwed from the get go. Without the basic human skills that we've progressed past actually needin in day to day lives we'd simply die off, or go insane, or go around killin people to steal their sandwich. In the other scenario, as long as we're not part of the group that our leader wants dead for whatever reason and don't make waves, we live.Agayek said:
Really, I'll just say what I said before in a slightly different way. All that satisfaction in bein able to know you are alive and free in a completely chaotic society means squat when some guy comes by and stabs you then leaves your body to be picked away by any animal or even person that comes by.
Chaos since I assume it's everyone doing anything they want including the lack of morals to it. With Tyranny I would got to worry about one person (and maybe his/ her minions) and not everyone else.
Where's the "I don't want to live on this planet anymore" option? I choose that, or I guess Tyranny.
I have a tendency to thrive in chaos (serious. I'm actually an accomplished and experienced wilderness survivalist as well as something of a trained killer. This answer is not for everyone by any means), so from a purely selfish standpoint, I say row row fight da powa. I'll create my own order, thank you very much.
That said, structure tends to be better for a society as a whole, so what's good for me isn't good for the flock. Fewer people die under a tyrant's thumb than at the mercy of human nature and the elements.
Also, confusing poll is confusing. On the surface it seems we're to vote for the one we prefer, and then in the OP you ask which is worse..?
That said, structure tends to be better for a society as a whole, so what's good for me isn't good for the flock. Fewer people die under a tyrant's thumb than at the mercy of human nature and the elements.
Also, confusing poll is confusing. On the surface it seems we're to vote for the one we prefer, and then in the OP you ask which is worse..?