Poll: Chemistry. Hard?

Goldbling

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Hey everyone,

I'm kind of at a dilemma. I have a choice of taking chemistry or IPC(Integrated Physics and Chemistry) at my High School. IPC is much easier by what I hear, but if you take it you only graduate with the minimal recommendations even if you take chemistry later on. So I guess what I am asking is if chemistry is hard. What should I know before I take it? I know you need to know algebra, but thats not a problem for me.

Edit: or should I say, you have to be good at chemistry.
 

Proteus214

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Know the periodic table.
Know unit conversions.
Know how to calculate redox reactions like a pro.

The rest is a joke.
 

Sightless Wisdom

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Hm we don't have IPC here, so I'm taking Chemistry and Physics. Though I do mean taking not took, so I can't say whether or not it's a difficult course.
 

ghalkhsdkssakgh

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Bits of it are hard, bits of it are easy. It depends on how good at maths you are, and how good your memory is. I enjoy maths, so calculating percentage losses, atom economies and molar masses comes naturally. However, you also have to memorize the results of plenty of different chemical tests (How do you test for chlodide, how would you test for a sulphate etc). You need a good mamory for these parts, which I sadly lack.
 

cleverlymadeup

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chemistry is pretty easy

it's always fun to take and a fun tip when doing the unit on acids and your teacher asks for an acid say "lysergic diethylamide"
 

El Poncho

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I find chemistry relatively easy, you only suck if you don't pay attention.
 

Goldbling

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cleverlymadeup said:
chemistry is pretty easy

it's always fun to take and a fun tip when doing the unit on acids and your teacher asks for an acid say "lysergic diethylamide"
Why? I think I know why it's funny but I'm not sure.

Edit: yeah I knew it... LSD. OMG I have to take it now!
 

antipunt

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Chem is pretty 'hard' overall. Not saying you can't do well in it.

(In high school anyway)
Physics = requires high intellect
Chem = medium intellect + medium work
Bio = high work or (no work, depending on how good your memory is)

Edit: and for some friends of mine, chemistry is 'a piece of cake'. Some people just have different talents for different things
 

Emphraim

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Goldbling said:
cleverlymadeup said:
chemistry is pretty easy

it's always fun to take and a fun tip when doing the unit on acids and your teacher asks for an acid say "lysergic diethylamide"
Why? I think I know why it's funny but I'm not sure.
That's the scientific name for LSD.

Ontopic: Chemistry is hard but so what? If it helps you get to a better college, go for it.
 

Lord George

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I have never quite got chemistry and its the reason I will never be a doctor :(, brilliant at biology though. So do IPC.
 

slevin8989

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Chemistry all the way it's interesting as long as the teacher is good and it can be challenging if you have a teacher that pushes you. I was lucky enough to have a teacher like that and it was a great class. Ipc is really easy but boring because of it.
 

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Goldbling said:
Hey everyone,

I'm kind of at a dilemma. I have a choice of taking chemistry or IPC(Integrated Physics and Chemistry) at my High School.
Over here, it's not a good idea to take intergrated courses, as most universities don't feel they are real qualifications, and don't count them. I don't know what it is lie over where you are, but that is the English way.
 

geldonyetich

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It's mostly the terminology that bothers me about chemistry.

For example, from this reference [http://www.woodrow.org/teachers/chemistry/links/chem1/NamingComp.html]:

DIRECTIONS: If the answer to a question is No, go to the next similarly numbered or lettered question. If the answer is Yes, follow any directions listed and go on to the first subdivision. Once you have said Yes to a subdivision, all following subdivisions of that question are skipped. In this manner continue through questions 1 ---> 6 until the compound has been named.

1. Is the first element a nonmetal?
1. Is the compound binary (consists of only two elements) ?
1. Is the first element H?
1. Is the compound a gas?
Write hydrogen as the first part of its name.
[Go to #3}.
2. The compound is a binary acid
Write the prefix "hydro", follow this by the root of the name for the second element, end the first word of the compound name in "ic". Follow this with the word "acid".

Example: HCl(aq) = hydrochloric acid.
[STOP]
2. Is the second element H?
Some common examples:
BH3 borane
NH3 ammonia
PH3 phosphane
CH4 methane

3. This is usual type of binary compound compound composed of two nonmetals.
Such a compound is named by using a Greek prefix designating the number of atoms for the elements in the formula. Note that the Greek prefix "mono-" is not used with the first element, just the second. Also, end the name of the second element in "ide".

Greek Prefixes Number
mono- 1
di- 2
tri- 3
tetra- 4
penta- 5
hexa- 6
hepta- 7
octa- 8
nona- 9
deca- 10

For Example: CO = carbon monoxide, P2O5 = diphosphorus pentoxide, CCl4= carbon tetrachloride.
[STOP]
2. Is the positive ion NH4+?
Write ammonium for the first part of the compound name.
[Go to #3}
3. Is the first element H?
Find the name of the negative ion.
1. Does the name of the negative ion end in "-ide"?
1. Is the compound a gas?
Write 'hydrogen" followed by the name of the negative ion.
For example: HCN (g) = hydrogen cyanide
2. Is the compound an aqueous solution?
Change the "-ate" ending of the negative ion to "-ic", add the prefix "hydro-" to the negative ion, and add the word "acid" to the compound name.
For example: HCN (aq) = hydrocyanic acid
2. Does the name of the negative ion end in "-ate'?
Change the "-ate" ending of the negative ion to "-ic", and add the word "acid".
For example: H3BO3 = boric acid (BO33- = borate)
3. Does the name of the negative ion end in "-ite'?
Change the "-ite" ending of the negative ion to "-ous", and add the word "acid".
For example: HNO2 = nitrous acid (NO21- = nitrite)

2. Is the first element a metal?
1. Does the first element have a varying oxidation number? (See table 3)
Write the name of the first element followed by its oxidation number (omitting the +) written as a Roman Numeral in ( ).
To determine this oxidation number: (1) multiply the oxidation number of the negative ion (anion) in the formula by the number of these negative ions, (2) divide this product by the number of atoms of the first element in the formula and (3) change the sign to +. (Remember the sum of the oxidation numbers in a compound must be equal to zero; the sum of the oxidation numbers in a polyatomic ion must equal the charge on the ion.)
For example: Fe2(SO4)3 = iron(III) .....
OR
Write the root of the name for the first element followed by "ous" for the lower of the two oxidation numbers or "ic" for the higher of the two oxidation numbers.
For example: Fe2(SO4)3 = ferric ..... because the two oxidation numbers for iron are +2 and +3.
2. Write the name of the first element.

3. Is the the negative ion in the compound formula a single element?
For the second part of the compound name, write the name of the element, changing the ending to "-ide".

For example: The chlorine in Cl- becomes chloride.

4. Is the first element of the negative ion in the compound formula H?
1. Is the oxidation number of the polyatomic ion following the hydrogen equal to -2?
Add the prefix "bi-" to the name of this ion and write it as the second part of the formula name.
OR Write the word "hydrogen" followed by the name of that polyatomic ion.
For example: the HSO41- ion is called bisulfate or hydrogen sulfate; NaHSO4 is called sodium bisulfate or sodium hydrogen sulfate.
2. To write the second part of the compound name: (1) add the Greek prefix for the number of hydrogen to the word "hydrogen" and (2) follow this by the name of the polyatomic ion written after the H in the negative ion of the formula.
For example: Na2HPO4 is sodium monohydrogen phosphate and NaH2PO4 is sodium dihydrogen phosphate.

5. Write the name of the negative ion as the second part of the compound name.
6. Is the compound a hydrate? (Is there an . X H2O written at the end of the formula?)
After the name of the first part of the formula write the word "hydrate" with the appropriate Greek prefix to indicate the number of water molecules in the hydrated form.
For example: CuSO4. 5 H2O is copper(II) sulfate pentahydrate.

[STOP]
 

RRilef

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The real question with chemistry, is how good are you at math. Once you know a few basic principles, high school chemistry is pretty much just math even at the AP level. One thing I have noticed about it though is that most of the people I know (myself included) who do well in chemistry are the people who pay attention in school and can pick up the vast majority of it without studying. If you have to study a lot, you will have to study even more for chem. To put it into perspective, I got an A- first year in chem with little to no studying, it was one of my higher grades. Someone else studied intensely for it (even more so than his average courses) and got a B, the only thing lower than an A- he got in his life

Bottom line: My recommendation is to take Chemistry. If it is too hard you can always bump down pretty easily, but if IPC is too easy, bumping up can take a lot more work if you aren't straight one hundreding every test.

The_root_of_all_evil said:
There once was an eminent chemist
Alas he is no more
Coz what he thought was H20
Was H2SO4
Oh I remeber that poster except it was:

Little Johnny took a drink
but he will drink no more
for what he thought was H2O
was H2SO4
 

Goldbling

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Fat Man Spoon said:
Goldbling said:
Hey everyone,

I'm kind of at a dilemma. I have a choice of taking chemistry or IPC(Integrated Physics and Chemistry) at my High School.
Over here, it's not a good idea to take intergrated courses, as most universities don't feel they are real qualifications, and don't count them. I don't know what it is lie over where you are, but that is the English way.
Well you have remember we are the ones with the failing school systems and the hallways roam with burger flippers!