Poll: CISPA is back, do you care?
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That was really funny.Vegosiux said:
OT: I agree completely, there needs to be a system in place that allows the government to crack down on malicious internet users out there doing bad things. But the bill in question allows circumvention of illegal search and seizure. It allows the government the power to essentially spy on it's citizens without a reasonable cause. They would be able to inquire about your internet activity, and companies would have to comply and hand over your personal information without a warrant.
The actual language of the bill is linked below:
http://www.rules.house.gov/Media/file/PDF_112_2/LegislativeText/CPRT-112-HPRT-RU00-HR3523.pdf
The reason I started this thread was to drum up some opposition to the bill. Hopefully people will get active.
In a way, you are right. The way the FBI raided Megaupload in New Zealand, a country in which they do not have authority, raises many questions. Not to mention the instances of a little bullying by Corporate America to get UK (and other) citizens extradited [http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/student-who-ran-tv-website-in-extradition-battle-with-us-6266374.html] for prosecution there. But apart from these headlines, in general we're as beholden to US laws as Americans are to ours.Church185 said:I was really curious about if it would affect other people or not (since our country likes to think of themselves as the global police force).KingsGambit said:It doesn't, unless I move there. In the same way that the UK RIP bill doesn't directly affect Americans. It's worrying that the so-called land of free speech and amendment this, that and the other is hoping to legally spy on and take privacy away from its citizens.
But we're used to having our personal rights taken away and abused by the govmt. here in the UK with nary a grumble nor a whimper, so it's about time another supposed bastion of democracy and freedom gets the same treatment!
I wonder if they would be able to get information from companies that aren't based in the united states? For instance, I don't think they couldn't get IP addresses of users who frequent The Pirate Bay, because that company isn't based in the US.
One interesting one to note (not that I particularly care), is last years spate of companies updating EULA's to take away your rights to bring a class action law suit against them (Sony, EA/Origin, Steam). That term is against EU law so over (Sony, EA/Origin, Steam), technically we can still do that, while Americans cannot. Another interesting one [http://www.bit-tech.net/news/gaming/2012/07/04/curia-digital-distribution/1] was set by precedent, also last year, declaring sale of second-hand digital goods legal in the EU. What this means for Steam games is anyone's guess but technically we are legally permitted to resell our digital goods, regardless of terms in any EULA.
Obviously this doesn't include breaking the law whilst visiting on holiday, but I'm sure that goes without saying.
I honestly believe it's another one of the NWO matters meaning it's going to happen no matter what. People may think they have rights and a say in matters but money has power over people and some people have lots of money.
