Poll: CoD: WaW. Its got major issues.

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RIOT MAST3R

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Ive been a hardcore CoD fan since the first game. I loved CoD2. CoD 3 was alright, but not the greatest. CoD4, the peak of CoD awesomeness. Everything was so finely tweaked and balenced. No one was ever at a disadvantage due to the weapon they held. No gimmicky or sucky weapons to be found. And despite the 1 annoyance (Here's lookin' at you, YOU G-D DAMN JUGGERN00B!!!!) there was a way to out play every situation.

This brings me to the world at war. An epic leap 62 years into the past. An epic FAIL! Over looking the campaign, which cant show multiplayer issues, the game failed to deliver what Ive come to expect.

MAPS- The maps in CoD5 are large enough to suit the single-shot weapons. In an attempt to keep the SMG and shotty users from getting picked to pieces many buildings were added for cover. This is good, except for the fact that these buildings end up packed by MP40 and Thompson wielding campers. The rifles are useless in these situations. So on almost every map the SMG or LMG is the weapon of choice. The maps are also too large, and are difficult to find enemies on without a UA...oops Recon Plane. Also there is the issue of the tanks. The game was better off without the gigantic, rolling, easy-kill deathtraps. TDM games become decided by who controls the tanks, making some of the maps unplayable for this game type.

WEAPONS- Very bad. The Bolt Action rifles all do the same exact thing, 1-hit-kills. There is no difference except for the slight accuracy differences and the iron sights. And there's the PTRS41. Its nothing like that in real life. Type in PTRS 41 on Youtube and see for your self. The Rifles are almost all the same. The SVT and Gewerh 43 are identical in power (2 shot kill), clip size, accuracy, and reload speed. Different iron sights. The M1 Garand was the biggest disappointment. 2-3 hit kills? No Aperture sight? Piss Poor Iron sights? A sniper scope? WTF? The Mp44 also fails to deliver with its lousy power. The SMGs are pretty basic. Not enough of em though. The Shottys are good and the LMGs are standard. 3 different kinds of Primary grenade are welcome, and are the high point of the game (STICKY NADES SUCKA!!!).

ATTACHMENTS- Good stuff. Mostly. Bipods are a welcome addition. The bayonets are awesome, except for the fact that they dont count for kills on your guns. Yeah it looks like it does, but it doesnt. Check for your self if you still don't believe me. Red dot s....gdmi..Aperture sights are still there and silencers will be silencers. Telescopic (ACOG) scopes are good too. Rifle grenades have been placed last on the attachment list for each gun so the "Noob Toob" problem has been phased out.

PERKS- The usual suspects are back, without eavesdrop. Shades and gas mask are welcome additions as well as the Recon perk that lets you see dogs and airstrike targets an the map. And Vehicle perks dont do much. Frag 3x has been made into frag 2x.

It isnt the worst shooter on Xbox Live. But it still isnt Cod4. Or Even Battlefield: BC.

2/5 stars
 

x434343

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Please note: CALL OF DUTY WORLD AT WAR IS NOT MEANT TO BE CALL OF DUTY 4. THEY ARE 2 DIFFERENT GAMES. THERE IS NO COMPARISON. Can we stop these "X versus Y" threads for God's sake?
 

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x434343 said:
Please note: CALL OF DUTY WORLD AT WAR IS NOT MEANT TO BE CALL OF DUTY 4. THEY ARE 2 DIFFERENT GAMES. THERE IS NO COMPARISON. Can we stop these "X versus Y" threads for God's sake?
It is meant to be a sequal building off the success of the original and removing the failings to create a better product, if they didn't want it compared it shouldn't have been named COD5.
 

x434343

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Ok, this bullshit has gotta stop.

Because of the idiotic ad campaign where the basic tag was "World at War is like CoD4 in these aspects, but with this added", all people do is compare it with CoD4.

THEY ARE NOT IN THE SAME TIME PERIOD. THEY DO NOT USE 100% OF THE SAME GUNS. IT IS LIKE COMPARING TEAM FORTRESS 2 TO LEFT 4 DEAD: PUBLISHED BY THE SAME COMPANY, MADE BY 2 DIFFERENT COMPANIES WHO USED THE SAME ENGINE.

Also, I've never seen a thread like "Half-Life 2 Episode 1 or Half-Life 2 Episode 2: Which is better?" Why? Because they are 2 different games. Neither is a remake. They were made out of one reason: keep the fans happy.

Isn't there a rule against "X versus Y" threads anyway?
 

Tattaglia

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You didn't even compare review the campaign. What the bloody hell? And I guess Nazi Zombies doesn't count for anything. Or the Cooperative play. Nice job.
 

PersianLlama

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x434343 said:
Ok, this bullshit has gotta stop.

Because of the idiotic ad campaign where the basic tag was "World at War is like CoD4 in these aspects, but with this added", all people do is compare it with CoD4.

THEY ARE NOT IN THE SAME TIME PERIOD. THEY DO NOT USE 100% OF THE SAME GUNS. IT IS LIKE COMPARING TEAM FORTRESS 2 TO LEFT 4 DEAD: PUBLISHED BY THE SAME COMPANY, MADE BY 2 DIFFERENT COMPANIES WHO USED THE SAME ENGINE.

Also, I've never seen a thread like "Half-Life 2 Episode 1 or Half-Life 2 Episode 2: Which is better?" Why? Because they are 2 different games. Neither is a remake. They were made out of one reason: keep the fans happy.

Isn't there a rule against "X versus Y" threads anyway?
I believe L4D and TF2 were both developed by Valve...
 

Tattaglia

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Eggo said:
RIOT MAST3R said:
It isnt the worst shooter on Xbox Live.
I'm so glad I'm playing multiplayer first person shooters on PC; I can't even begin to imagine what sort of handicapped experience you must go through for a game you paid an extra $10 on.

Ouch.
Mmmmm... PSN. Delicious, delicious free multiplayer. Let us bask in our glorious freebies.
 

x434343

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PersianLlama said:
I believe L4D and TF2 were both developed by Valve...

Well, yes, Team Fortress 2 was developed by Valve. Not L4D. +20 Internets for anyone who can find the developers. Hint: IT'S NOT VALVe
 

x434343

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Turtle Rock Studios began it's development, and was absorbed by VALVe. Creating a situation much like Activision having Infinity Ward and Treyarch. Technically, it was Turtle Rock Studios.
 

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x434343 said:
Turtle Rock Studios began it's development, and was absorbed by VALVe. Creating a situation much like Activision having Infinity Ward and Treyarch. Technically, it was Turtle Rock Studios.
Turtle Rock is Valve.
 

smallharmlesskitten

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x434343 said:
PersianLlama said:
I believe L4D and TF2 were both developed by Valve...

Well, yes, Team Fortress 2 was developed by Valve. Not L4D. +20 Internets for anyone who can find the developers. Hint: IT'S NOT VALVe
Turtle Rock Studios

BUT

Valve brought them in house (some of the TF2 guys even worked on versus mode)
 

Bulletinmybrain

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Eggo said:
Oh, I was talking about silly console gamers having to pay $10 more for essentially handicapped games in general.
Quit yapping...It isn't easy putting a pc together and not fucking up if your not experienced.
 

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x434343 said:
Ok, this bullshit has gotta stop.

Because of the idiotic ad campaign where the basic tag was "World at War is like CoD4 in these aspects, but with this added", all people do is compare it with CoD4.

THEY ARE NOT IN THE SAME TIME PERIOD. THEY DO NOT USE 100% OF THE SAME GUNS. IT IS LIKE COMPARING TEAM FORTRESS 2 TO LEFT 4 DEAD: PUBLISHED BY THE SAME COMPANY, MADE BY 2 DIFFERENT COMPANIES WHO USED THE SAME ENGINE.

Also, I've never seen a thread like "Half-Life 2 Episode 1 or Half-Life 2 Episode 2: Which is better?" Why? Because they are 2 different games. Neither is a remake. They were made out of one reason: keep the fans happy.

Isn't there a rule against "X versus Y" threads anyway?
It is not like comparing TF2 and LFD because Cod 4 and 5 hold far more similarities than a game of capture the flag and a zombie survival game. Your belief that half life 2 ep 1 and 2 can't be compared because they are different flys in the face of what comparing and contrasting means. Anything can be compared but it depends on the amount of comparisons that can be drawn. Cod 4 and 5 are two fps's set in the 20th and early 21st centuries. They are sequals of previous Cod games that also follow this rule and while cod 5 has its own unique traits, as all good sequals should; it also builds on the succeses of cod4 such as the perks system and bears resemblence to Cod 3 in setting.

I just compared the games with very few comparisons of the content in the games with little difficulty; however, I will point out that the games having contrasting points such as the timelines and weapons as you pointed out does not erase all other comparisons that can be made, or the validy of such comparsons.

Side note: Typing in all caps only makes your statement easier to read and in turn easier to pick apart while making you look childish.
 

hypothetical fact

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Eggo said:
Bulletinmybrain said:
Eggo said:
Oh, I was talking about silly console gamers having to pay $10 more for essentially handicapped games in general.
Quit yapping...It isn't easy putting a pc together and not fucking up if your not experienced.
It isn't easy not having mommy and daddy spend $60 each on a shiny toy on you so you can go play with a $250 to $400 bigger toy either :p
Get off your high horse and understand that some people naturally prefer playing on consoles and pointing out all flaws in consoles will only invoke another pointless and off topic argument about the flaws in P.C's. If you do not heed this warning I am prepared to compare going outside and how great it is to living by the computer.
 

Bulletinmybrain

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Eggo said:
Bulletinmybrain said:
Eggo said:
Oh, I was talking about silly console gamers having to pay $10 more for essentially handicapped games in general.
Quit yapping...It isn't easy putting a pc together and not fucking up if your not experienced.
It isn't easy not having mommy and daddy spend $60 each on a shiny toy on you so you can go play with a $250 to $400 bigger toy either :p
You have to do the same with a PC.(Replace 60$ with 50$.)
 

gamebrain89

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Bulletinmybrain said:
Eggo said:
Bulletinmybrain said:
Eggo said:
Oh, I was talking about silly console gamers having to pay $10 more for essentially handicapped games in general.
Quit yapping...It isn't easy putting a pc together and not fucking up if your not experienced.
It isn't easy not having mommy and daddy spend $60 each on a shiny toy on you so you can go play with a $250 to $400 bigger toy either :p
You have to do the same with a PC.(Replace 60$ with 50$.)
Cease and desist both of you. we don't need another PC vs Console thread. Thank you.

Anyway, on topic. I think it is fair to compare WaW with CoD4, they are both basically the same game, set in different time periods, with the proper weapons on each. both use the same game engine, have very similar gameplay, and use the same multiplayer system as far as I can see. CoD4 did it better, though WaW has its high points (zombie nazi's FTW) and both have their low points (Martyrdom).
 

Mariena

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I'm getting CoD5 for the campaigns and coop play, just like I've done with every other CoD game I've played (well, except for the coop in previous installments). If I wanted to play great deathmatch, I'd load up Unreal Tournament.

Though the only one I did enjoy was CoD:UO .. where you could actually use a rifle because of the new large sized maps. I honestly don't like running and gunning. To me, there's nothing interesting about running around and spamming that SMG.