Poll: Computer Choice
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Linux, except on my gaming PC obviously.
Why? because it dose everything I need (bar gaming), costs nothing and is very easy to use and maintain myself.
For the gaming PC I'm currently running Windows 7, its the only choice really.
In most areas its just as good as Linux, but its harder to customize and costs money.
I do have a Mac, three actually, second hand of course since there is no way I'd spend the amount of money Apple demands for there machines.
Its not ideal, the interface feels like a throw back to the early to mid 1990's, but its suitable when you just want to do basic web browsing, doc editing or watching a DVD. Very pretty looking, but not that useful.
Why? because it dose everything I need (bar gaming), costs nothing and is very easy to use and maintain myself.
For the gaming PC I'm currently running Windows 7, its the only choice really.
In most areas its just as good as Linux, but its harder to customize and costs money.
I do have a Mac, three actually, second hand of course since there is no way I'd spend the amount of money Apple demands for there machines.
Its not ideal, the interface feels like a throw back to the early to mid 1990's, but its suitable when you just want to do basic web browsing, doc editing or watching a DVD. Very pretty looking, but not that useful.
I'm running windows 7 on my desktop PC and Vista and Linux on my laptops. I use Win7 for everyday stuff like browsing, it's the most user friendly and has the hardware to do whatever I want, I take the vista laptop with me if I have to somewhere and the Linux one if I have to one very particular thing or rewrite/modify a program. And it's good for running a separate server in LAN parties, it'll never, ever crash. (neither does win7, unless you're using it like a total pilloc)
Apple can go make their iCarpet somewhere else as far as I'm concerned.
Apple can go make their iCarpet somewhere else as far as I'm concerned.
Since I hail from the age of MS-DOS and so forth (No I'm not that old... I was just fond of computers early) I love Linux, so for my working station I've got Linux set up, though I've got a Mac BookPro and a Laptop with Windows/Linux configuration as well.
So kind of all three... but since I had to choose; Linux!
Why Linux? I like the writing, rewriting and so forth of code and it feels natural to me since it follows some of the same logic as MS-DOS, but has a GUI added to it. And I like to experiment around...
So kind of all three... but since I had to choose; Linux!
Why Linux? I like the writing, rewriting and so forth of code and it feels natural to me since it follows some of the same logic as MS-DOS, but has a GUI added to it. And I like to experiment around...
To answer the original question, the reason Macs are generally seen as more "artistic" is generally because they are always quite gorgeous. Everything from the native HD screens of the lappy's to the simple design on the outside. It just LOOKS professional to work on one.
The other thing is they're mostly used for art (movies, music, pictures). They come with a lot of really nice software installed, FOR said programs (imovie, garageband, ect), but real pros will get Photoshop
In a nutshell, they look good, inside and out. That's really the idea behind the "artistic" view of macs.
The other thing is they're mostly used for art (movies, music, pictures). They come with a lot of really nice software installed, FOR said programs (imovie, garageband, ect), but real pros will get Photoshop
In a nutshell, they look good, inside and out. That's really the idea behind the "artistic" view of macs.
Erh, true; but... they've got build in .PDF support. In other words .PDF support is build in the core of the system of Mac it's OS.Mr_Paisley said:To answer the original question, the reason Macs are generally seen as more "artistic" is generally because they are always quite gorgeous. Everything from the native HD screens of the lappy's to the simple design on the outside. It just LOOKS professional to work on one.
The other thing is they're mostly used for art (movies, music, pictures). They come with a lot of really nice software installed, FOR said programs (imovie, garageband, ect), but real pros will get Photoshop
In a nutshell, they look good, inside and out. That's really the idea behind the "artistic" view of macs.
Other than that, there's some long story about .EPS and the fact that Mac supported something vital to the GFX industry at the dawn of the computing GFX area which is why Mac became the standard for that industry. Today it doesn't really matter, but old habits die hard, or so they say.
As I use my PC solely to game on, surf the web with and occasionally write something on, I'm going for Windows.
Macs are considered more creative because they come with built in software for doing things that you would need to buy software for in windows. Eg moviemaker is a decent piece of software, also they look better than most pcs so they are a style icon.
The reason i don't buy macs is that they cost too much for what they are, i could get a perfectly usable pc with similar specs for a lot less since i wouldnt be paying for the mac brand and look.
I mostly go for windows though i do use linux from time to time
The reason i don't buy macs is that they cost too much for what they are, i could get a perfectly usable pc with similar specs for a lot less since i wouldnt be paying for the mac brand and look.
I mostly go for windows though i do use linux from time to time
I went on a Mac for the first time the other day, and found it utterly shite. That'll definitely have something to do with my experience with windows though. Mac just outright confused me.
I use Windows or Linux depending on my mood.
My middle school "gave" everyone a Mac for the two years ("gave" because we had to return them at the end of the two years, but they didn't cost anything), and that experience really forever put me off ever owning a Mac ever again. I had more issues with that than I have had with any three computers I've used running Windows or Linux. (I'd like to point out that my class was the first that they did this for, so the laptops were new, nobody had a chance to fuck around with it before me.)
My middle school "gave" everyone a Mac for the two years ("gave" because we had to return them at the end of the two years, but they didn't cost anything), and that experience really forever put me off ever owning a Mac ever again. I had more issues with that than I have had with any three computers I've used running Windows or Linux. (I'd like to point out that my class was the first that they did this for, so the laptops were new, nobody had a chance to fuck around with it before me.)
That sentence makes me die a little inside. It's more like MS-DOS tried to follow some of the same logic as Unix (at least in terms of interface; as far as the OS/kernel/whatever is concerned, they couldn't be more different) but was thrown together by someone who got dropped on their head a few too many times as a kid, while Linux is directly and specifically designed to be Unix-like and follows the design philosophy in a more sensible way.Cornish said:
Even as a kid I could tell that DOS was a clusterfuck compared to Unix-y stuff, since I was exposed to both around the same time (back when there was still SunOS, not Solaris). Not surprisingly as a result I pretty much couldn't stand MS-DOS/Windows until NT4 came out, which was actually fairly decent to write stuff for at work, since the NT line is when they finally ditched DOS. The Windows command line is still kind of depressing, though, compared to Linux/OS X/BSD/Solaris/anything that isn't Windows.
I think I lost track of what I was talking about and what my point was somewhere in there and may have started ranting. So I guess I'll just shake my fist at you, yell at you to get off my lawn, and call it a day. Heh.
Hear hear. When I pay $600 for a device, I don't want to sign a contract that says it's a rental.Funkysandwich said:
Reasonable companies don't care what you do to the product you bought once they have your money.
I haven't tried Linux for only the reason that I haven't bothered to look into it or why.
Frankly I know little about both their history and origin and can't really say I care too much for it either. To me they are just great tools (Though I do admit liking Linux better) and since I was exposed to MS-DOS long before I even hear of anything Unix based it's obvious I'll compare from that point of view.Nalgas D. Lemur said:
No where did I state that MS-DOS was or wasn't a rip-off from Unix/Linux/Etc or the other way around. Though, cheers for adding to my knowledge of their history.
I use both Windows and Mac osx. I have used Linux, but it just got a bit annoying in the end. Right now I'd say I'm in favour of the Macintosh operating system. Due to finding out how terrible the Windows back up system is... The hard way.
And then, after my massive loss of game data, my other laptop then decided that it no longer had a wireless card(!?!??!?!?) and the maker of the card wanted £30 for the driver to make it work again. Obviously I just got it somewhere else though...
And I just feel, these are the kind of annoying things that modern day computer users shouldn't have to worry about. And seeing as only Apple make Macintosh computers, it barely ever happens as the software is made for specific hardware.
I'm not computer illiterate either, I'm almost at the end of my Computing(Programming) A-level course and have a good "inside + out" knowledge of the computer. But Windows I'm afraid, has begun taking it's toll on this poor user.
And then, after my massive loss of game data, my other laptop then decided that it no longer had a wireless card(!?!??!?!?) and the maker of the card wanted £30 for the driver to make it work again. Obviously I just got it somewhere else though...
And I just feel, these are the kind of annoying things that modern day computer users shouldn't have to worry about. And seeing as only Apple make Macintosh computers, it barely ever happens as the software is made for specific hardware.
I'm not computer illiterate either, I'm almost at the end of my Computing(Programming) A-level course and have a good "inside + out" knowledge of the computer. But Windows I'm afraid, has begun taking it's toll on this poor user.
So, I just learned something, too. Apparently I'm kind of cranky when I haven't had breakfast yet and don't say what I really mean nearly as well as I think I am.Cornish said:
Even as a Mac user, I have never understood the "Macs are artsy" crap. Most of the decent or widely-used music software is used on Windows and you are limited to Garageband and a few other things on a Mac. Photoshop is not exclusive to Apple computers. Windows has more advanced video-editing tools and a wider selection to choose from. And it's not like Mac had such things first or had them before anyone else for years because such applications have been around FOREVER. Sure, early on Apple might have had better tools, but a lot of them were produced by 3rd party companies.Sakurazaki1023 said:
Honestly, it would be more logical to market them as a computer for those who surf the web with reckless abandon, as there are significant less viruses and trojans made for the OS in comparison to Windows (partly due to Macs being unable to read or use exe files), since it certainly isn't a gaming console due to licensing issues over DirectX.
There are some cons about Macs which Apple is completely guilty of such as being upgrade-unfriendly (you can get Windows 7 on an old piece of shit PC if you have enough RAM, but you need to buy a new computer to get Snow Leopard if you're still using a iBook G4 such as myself) and difficult or impossible to add in new hardware to allow for such upgrades because of near-sighted thinking, and there are others that they can't help such as specific types of hardware which Microsoft has the rights to (ie. a lot of shit they acquired in the 90s), meaning they have to manufacture their own shit, which is extremely expensive, meaning higher prices to break even.