Poll: Could You Pull the Trigger?
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This is less to gauge someone's reaction, as it is to see what responses someone is going to give when attempting to logic out the issue. What a lot of people (who've answered every which way) seem to not remember is something called 'survival instinct', that when your life is threatened, you go into a fight/flight mode to preserve your life. When flight is not an option, there is only fight.LimaBravo said:
I also have a pistol crossbow, a compound bow, several swords, and a crowbar. However, attempting to carry these as self-defense weapons is the height of stupidity. It's impossible to conceal a pistol crossbow in every day clothing, much less a full sized one, just as it's impossible (and highly illegal) to conceal a four foot blade on your person for self defense purposes.
Compounding the issue is that very, VERY few people understand proper technique with a long blade, much less are able to perform it. Even fewer still would be able to perform proper effective technique in a high-risk combat situation.
Q: Do You think you could take a life to defend your own.
Yeah. Most people who answer this really are making a guess, but in this case I'm pretty sure. 11-B says yes.
Q: The BadGuy is threatening not just your life, but your family's. Does this alter your reaction?
Not really, still going to salt him down.
Q: Would the difference between the up-close kill, and the point and click of a ranged weapon have a difference on you?
firearm is easier to do and easier to deal with later, but if necessary I could make do hand-to-hand
Q: Would having a stranger's life on the line with yours make you change your reaction?
Only if the stranger is standing in the line of fire.
Fun note: untrained, fewer than 20% of post-adolescent males (the most violent demographic) are generally capable of lethal violence. Even when in life threatening situations. See firing rate studies on WW1 soldiers. With intensive training (generally military), this can be raised to over 80%. The funny thing is that people have a deeply ingrained horror of violence, and thats a good thing. It's easy to talk hard, especially on the internet. It's a whole lot harder to hold someone down and cut their throat while they struggle and scream. The average human is a peaceful animal, and less than 2% of males have an actual predisposition for violence.
Yeah. Most people who answer this really are making a guess, but in this case I'm pretty sure. 11-B says yes.
Q: The BadGuy is threatening not just your life, but your family's. Does this alter your reaction?
Not really, still going to salt him down.
Q: Would the difference between the up-close kill, and the point and click of a ranged weapon have a difference on you?
firearm is easier to do and easier to deal with later, but if necessary I could make do hand-to-hand
Q: Would having a stranger's life on the line with yours make you change your reaction?
Only if the stranger is standing in the line of fire.
Fun note: untrained, fewer than 20% of post-adolescent males (the most violent demographic) are generally capable of lethal violence. Even when in life threatening situations. See firing rate studies on WW1 soldiers. With intensive training (generally military), this can be raised to over 80%. The funny thing is that people have a deeply ingrained horror of violence, and thats a good thing. It's easy to talk hard, especially on the internet. It's a whole lot harder to hold someone down and cut their throat while they struggle and scream. The average human is a peaceful animal, and less than 2% of males have an actual predisposition for violence.
What an interesting topic. Kudos.
Q: Do You think you could take a life to defend your own.
A: Absolutely. It is my firm belief that every living being is more than quite capable of this. It is completely natural.
Q: The BadGuy is threatening not just your life, but your family's. Does this alter your reaction?
A: I would be a lot more swift and violent in my going about of the whole business. This is also quite natural.
Q: Would the difference between the up-close kill, and the point and click of a ranged weapon have a difference on you?
A: I don't know, I've never killed someone, and I haven't been in a fight for about 7-8 years when I was still a little shit. I suppose that killing someone with a gun is potentially much "cleaner" than sawing off someones aorta with a knife, but it wouldn't make me hesitate or anything.
Q: Would having a stranger's life on the line with yours make you change your reaction?
A: As in a stranger's life is threatened along with mine? No, nothing much. I would still happily kill the aggressor to make certain my own safety, and I wouldn't risk my own neck for the other guy.
Q: Do You think you could take a life to defend your own.
A: Absolutely. It is my firm belief that every living being is more than quite capable of this. It is completely natural.
Q: The BadGuy is threatening not just your life, but your family's. Does this alter your reaction?
A: I would be a lot more swift and violent in my going about of the whole business. This is also quite natural.
Q: Would the difference between the up-close kill, and the point and click of a ranged weapon have a difference on you?
A: I don't know, I've never killed someone, and I haven't been in a fight for about 7-8 years when I was still a little shit. I suppose that killing someone with a gun is potentially much "cleaner" than sawing off someones aorta with a knife, but it wouldn't make me hesitate or anything.
Q: Would having a stranger's life on the line with yours make you change your reaction?
A: As in a stranger's life is threatened along with mine? No, nothing much. I would still happily kill the aggressor to make certain my own safety, and I wouldn't risk my own neck for the other guy.
if they where threatening me: yes i would kill them (strangle them whatever)
if they thread my familiy (i would kill them in a more painful way)
doesent matter much if its up close or ranged, lethality is still possible
i would still save a stranger if that what you ask
if they thread my familiy (i would kill them in a more painful way)
doesent matter much if its up close or ranged, lethality is still possible
i would still save a stranger if that what you ask
Q: Do You think you could take a life to defend your own.
Yes. I wouldn't hessitate.
Q: The BadGuy is threatening not just your life, but your family's. Does this alter your reaction?
Yeah, it makes me have even less hessitation about killing him.
Q: Would the difference between the up-close kill, and the point and click of a ranged weapon have a difference on you?
Well, kinda yeah. I am better with a fire arm than with a baseball bat, so I would rather use a fire weapon to kill the "badguy"
Q: Would having a stranger's life on the line with yours make you change your reaction?
This person is threatening my family and/or myself with killing me. This is not like a game where you can think your decision over five minutes, this is the real world. People get killed (or not) because of a fraction of a second. If somebody goes as far as threatening to kill someone I love I wouldn't take any chances like just injuring him or simply talk him out of it. I just blow his head off.
Yes. I wouldn't hessitate.
Q: The BadGuy is threatening not just your life, but your family's. Does this alter your reaction?
Yeah, it makes me have even less hessitation about killing him.
Q: Would the difference between the up-close kill, and the point and click of a ranged weapon have a difference on you?
Well, kinda yeah. I am better with a fire arm than with a baseball bat, so I would rather use a fire weapon to kill the "badguy"
Q: Would having a stranger's life on the line with yours make you change your reaction?
This person is threatening my family and/or myself with killing me. This is not like a game where you can think your decision over five minutes, this is the real world. People get killed (or not) because of a fraction of a second. If somebody goes as far as threatening to kill someone I love I wouldn't take any chances like just injuring him or simply talk him out of it. I just blow his head off.
I think this is could just be curiosity and is very interesting. For example in a way I am pleased to have felt a lot of 'pain' after a relationship break up because now I know what it is like. I'm not a medical professional so I can't tell if crudus is 'nuts' though.stinkychops said:
Q: Do You think you could take a life to defend your own.
Yes but I'd have to be a little detached, for example using a gun, because I am not aggressive or violent or strong. A little bit unsure of my own abilities.
Q: The BadGuy is threatening not just your life, but your family's. Does this alter your reaction?
A little bit because I care deeply about my partner, mum and friends. People threatening them in any way gets me angry.
Q: Would the difference between the up-close kill, and the point and click of a ranged weapon have a difference on you?
Yes. I'd still aim to wound because I would feel a bit guilty certainly.
Q: Would having a stranger's life on the line with yours make you change your reaction?
Again a little. I often care for the well being of others if something really bad might happen. That said I don't give money to charity or homeless people.
1) Yes, I would. I actually have defended myself from an attack and you don't give a sh*t about the other person when your own life is on the line.
2) No, but my reation would be more brutal and quick.
3) No emotionally, but closeup runs the higher risk of personal injury.
4) No, cause it boils down I am still protecting my own life. If I happen to save someone elses life in the process, bonus.
2) No, but my reation would be more brutal and quick.
3) No emotionally, but closeup runs the higher risk of personal injury.
4) No, cause it boils down I am still protecting my own life. If I happen to save someone elses life in the process, bonus.
If the attacker was violent and had angered me or gotten me into a panic I think I would.Koeryn said:
If they threatened my family's lives I would be in such anger and hatred that I definitely would.
I would not like a close kill. It would leave serious emotional scarring that might not be present if I stayed away from the killer.
Having a stranger depend on me would no longer be a case of "is my life worth the attackers?" and I would see it in a different light, one that would make me definitely pull the trigger.
So 1v1 up close, probably, but I wouldn't like it one bit. If anyone else depended on me I would do it and would be far less hesitant.
I would pull the trigger without a second thought.
I have no pity for anyone willing to attack me.
And no mercy.
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I have no pity for anyone willing to attack me.
And no mercy.
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Everyone has a breaking point, everyone is capable of pretty much anything in the right circumstances.
When you read about people who take lives to save their own or people they care about they always say "instinct just took over" When the shit hits the fan survival is our most basic and defining goal,things will get nasty....
When you read about people who take lives to save their own or people they care about they always say "instinct just took over" When the shit hits the fan survival is our most basic and defining goal,things will get nasty....
Q: Do You think you could take a life to defend your own.
Depends on who they are and why.
Q: The BadGuy is threatening not just your life, but your family's. Does this alter your reaction?
Yes.
Q: Would the difference between the up-close kill, and the point and click of a ranged weapon have a difference on you?
Not really, if the reason for it is valid, I have no qualms with any weapon.
Q: Would having a stranger's life on the line with yours make you change your reaction?
Yes.
Depends on who they are and why.
Q: The BadGuy is threatening not just your life, but your family's. Does this alter your reaction?
Yes.
Q: Would the difference between the up-close kill, and the point and click of a ranged weapon have a difference on you?
Not really, if the reason for it is valid, I have no qualms with any weapon.
Q: Would having a stranger's life on the line with yours make you change your reaction?
Yes.
Q1: Do You think you could take a life to defend your own.
A: If its a simple 'kill or be killed' scenario then I honestly doubt I would be considering acting in any other way.
Q2: Would having someone close to you in the situation with you change your answer above?
A: No, if anything it would make me less likely to consider alternate options.
Q3: Would the difference between the up-close kill, and the point and click of a ranged weapon have a difference on you?
A: In the event I would honestly rather the actual dying happened as far away from myself as possible, but again if its kill or be killed then all other concerns take the back seat.
A: If its a simple 'kill or be killed' scenario then I honestly doubt I would be considering acting in any other way.
Q2: Would having someone close to you in the situation with you change your answer above?
A: No, if anything it would make me less likely to consider alternate options.
Q3: Would the difference between the up-close kill, and the point and click of a ranged weapon have a difference on you?
A: In the event I would honestly rather the actual dying happened as far away from myself as possible, but again if its kill or be killed then all other concerns take the back seat.
Q: Do You think you could take a life to defend your own.
A: yes
Q: The BadGuy is threatening not just your life, but your family's. Does this alter your reaction?
A: no
Q: Would the difference between the up-close kill, and the point and click of a ranged weapon have a difference on you?
A: yes there is adifference between somebady standing close to you and somebody from 3feet
Q: Would having a stranger's life on the line with yours make you change your reaction?
A:yes I,d hardly know the stranger and might defend the wrong person
A: yes
Q: The BadGuy is threatening not just your life, but your family's. Does this alter your reaction?
A: no
Q: Would the difference between the up-close kill, and the point and click of a ranged weapon have a difference on you?
A: yes there is adifference between somebady standing close to you and somebody from 3feet
Q: Would having a stranger's life on the line with yours make you change your reaction?
A:yes I,d hardly know the stranger and might defend the wrong person
Q: Do You think you could take a life to defend your own.
Yes, but I would try to exhaust options to resolve it peacefully, or at least non mortally. If given no out, I would do it without hesitation.
Q: The BadGuy is threatening not just your life, but your family's. Does this alter your reaction?
In this case, if I have the upper-hand I wouldn't try to resolve it, just end it.
Q: Would the difference between the up-close kill, and the point and click of a ranged weapon have a difference on you?
To me yes, shooting someone is much less engaging and quicker. Killing someone with a melee weapon or your bare hands...that means I didn't just have to make a small twitch, I had to make consistent effort to kill the person. I think it would have more of an effect on me.
Q: Would having a stranger's life on the line with yours make you change your reaction?
Nope, I'd try to save their life too, when someone is threatening this kind of violence, they've exhausted my patience/mercy. You can punch me, you can kick me, you can hit me with a stick, but if you threaten my life or the lives of those around me, the whole scenario changes.
Yes, but I would try to exhaust options to resolve it peacefully, or at least non mortally. If given no out, I would do it without hesitation.
Q: The BadGuy is threatening not just your life, but your family's. Does this alter your reaction?
In this case, if I have the upper-hand I wouldn't try to resolve it, just end it.
Q: Would the difference between the up-close kill, and the point and click of a ranged weapon have a difference on you?
To me yes, shooting someone is much less engaging and quicker. Killing someone with a melee weapon or your bare hands...that means I didn't just have to make a small twitch, I had to make consistent effort to kill the person. I think it would have more of an effect on me.
Q: Would having a stranger's life on the line with yours make you change your reaction?
Nope, I'd try to save their life too, when someone is threatening this kind of violence, they've exhausted my patience/mercy. You can punch me, you can kick me, you can hit me with a stick, but if you threaten my life or the lives of those around me, the whole scenario changes.
Q: Do You think you could take a life to defend your own.
A: Yes I do.
Q: The BadGuy is threatening not just your life, but your family's. Does this alter your reaction?
A: It'd make me more likely to fire. In other words, the percieved level of risk for me to fire would be lower than if it were just my life on the line.
Q: Would the difference between the up-close kill, and the point and click of a ranged weapon have a difference on you?
A: I'm not really sure. On the one hand you have the ease with which you'd kill someone using a gun, a completely one sided deal. It causes massive damage to your enemy while you remain safely out of harms way (as long as the other guy doesn't have a gun too). A close up kill, which would involve a massive scuffle/brawl over the knife/bat/etc, would be very messy and more personal.
Conversely, killing someone with a gun just doesn't seem fair, I'd feel bad because the other guy never stood a chance. A close up kill at least there was a fight and he stood a chance. I'm not saying I'd prefer a close up kill; I value my own, and family's, immediate safety above any possible longer term issues so would choose gun every time. I do think I'd feel worse though.
Q: Would having a stranger's life on the line with yours make you change your reaction?
A: Again, same as my answer to the second question. I'd have to feel more at risk than if it were my family but less than if it were me alone.
A: Yes I do.
Q: The BadGuy is threatening not just your life, but your family's. Does this alter your reaction?
A: It'd make me more likely to fire. In other words, the percieved level of risk for me to fire would be lower than if it were just my life on the line.
Q: Would the difference between the up-close kill, and the point and click of a ranged weapon have a difference on you?
A: I'm not really sure. On the one hand you have the ease with which you'd kill someone using a gun, a completely one sided deal. It causes massive damage to your enemy while you remain safely out of harms way (as long as the other guy doesn't have a gun too). A close up kill, which would involve a massive scuffle/brawl over the knife/bat/etc, would be very messy and more personal.
Conversely, killing someone with a gun just doesn't seem fair, I'd feel bad because the other guy never stood a chance. A close up kill at least there was a fight and he stood a chance. I'm not saying I'd prefer a close up kill; I value my own, and family's, immediate safety above any possible longer term issues so would choose gun every time. I do think I'd feel worse though.
Q: Would having a stranger's life on the line with yours make you change your reaction?
A: Again, same as my answer to the second question. I'd have to feel more at risk than if it were my family but less than if it were me alone.
Q: Do You think you could take a life to defend your own?
Yes. I know I could, and would, if they threatened me with death.
Q: The BadGuy is threatening not just your life, but your family's. Does this alter your reaction?
Yes. Now instead of two to the chest, one to the head, it'd be one in the chest, one in a leg, one in an arm, and thing one in the head.
Q: Would the difference between the up-close kill, and the point and click of a ranged weapon have a difference on you?
Yes. It would make it easier. I'm not as good with long range rifles and such.
Q: Would having a stranger's life on the line with yours make you change your reaction?
Yes. Go back to the family line.
I'm fine if you try to kill me, I'll just kill you.
If you try to kill others, then I'm going to kill you in a less efficient manner.
Yes. I know I could, and would, if they threatened me with death.
Q: The BadGuy is threatening not just your life, but your family's. Does this alter your reaction?
Yes. Now instead of two to the chest, one to the head, it'd be one in the chest, one in a leg, one in an arm, and thing one in the head.
Q: Would the difference between the up-close kill, and the point and click of a ranged weapon have a difference on you?
Yes. It would make it easier. I'm not as good with long range rifles and such.
Q: Would having a stranger's life on the line with yours make you change your reaction?
Yes. Go back to the family line.
I'm fine if you try to kill me, I'll just kill you.
If you try to kill others, then I'm going to kill you in a less efficient manner.
I like to THINK that I would be able to take a life to defend my own. I would also like to think that I could do so in defending my loved ones.
But to say that it wouldn't bother me is ridiculous, and to others who said it wouldn't bother them, even the soldiers and cops, I suspect that you are lying, at least to yourself.
But to say that it wouldn't bother me is ridiculous, and to others who said it wouldn't bother them, even the soldiers and cops, I suspect that you are lying, at least to yourself.