Poll: Current Events

SeaCalMaster

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With the recent events in Georgia, I got to wondering how much people really pay attention to the news. I also wanted to know whether gamers tend to be more or less in touch with the outside world (insert obvious joke here). So, does the Escapist have an informed base? Do games like CoD4 convince us that what is happening around the globe is worth our attention, or do we fit the reclusive stereotype?
 

Arcticflame

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I tend to be a fair bit better informed than the average person, simply because I enjoy gaining knowledge (not as much as I do gaming, but enough so that I pick up a newspaper, or watch the news in order to learn something).
 

Kaminobob

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it's the information age, good sir.
the recluse is the most informed person, more often than not.
 

the monopoly guy

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Information age or not, most people are uninformed about current events, because most people think celebrity gossip is all that matters.

It's not, it doesn't matter the least bit.
AT ALL
 

Typecast

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I stopped watching our public broadcast news when I couldn't distinguish it from the commercial news. This has kept me out of the loop and left me with a distrust of journalists who have to earn their living. That said, the internet is full of rubbish, so is unlikely to be a perfect substitute. I ignore the news, which means I miss out on the big important things, but thankfully the West is still fearful of Russian military muscle because the Georgian crisis rated a mention on Yahoo's news section which I read before looking at some emails no one important had sent me.
 

Gharial

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Yeah I'm more or less up to date with the most important world events, However I make a point of not taking the media too seriously from personal experience.
AS I think we all know they have a habit for making big news out of small things,
 

dart sifilis

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I pay attention to local news mostly (for obvious reason) but in Georgian conflict I've tried to get as much info from different sources as I could. I live on the boarder with Russia so I wanna know where to their tanks are headed )
 

Larenxis

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I may be abusing your poll, by taking things literally rather than just as degrees, but I picked the first option.
 

Anarchemitis

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I hope there's not going to be a second Cold War.

Admittedly I don't know anything about this Election everyone keeps ranting on about that has nothing to do with Obama or Hilary or America whatsoever.
 

the monopoly guy

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Anarchemitis said:
Admittedly I don't know anything about this Election everyone keeps ranting on about that has nothing to do with Obama or Hilary or America whatsoever.
Obviously, Hillary dropped out in June, her and Bill are now behind Obama 100%*


*want the VP spot
 

Flos

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I'm incredibly well-informed about this because it's being spammed on every message board I frequent.

Though that's probably not the kind of response you wanted, it's true.
 

Zemalac

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I read the paper every day over breakfast, but I don't think it's possible to pay attention to every detail and still have time for a normal life.
 

Llil

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I watch the news almost every day and I read newspapers, so I guess I'm pretty well informed.
 

SeaCalMaster

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Zemalac post=18.68268.623948 said:
I read the paper every day over breakfast, but I don't think it's possible to pay attention to every detail and still have time for a normal life.
Possibly, though one could easily say the same thing about WoW, and there are intense WoWers who actually manage to have normal lives.
 

John Galt

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I read the paper and subscribe to a number of magazines so yes, I guess I'm pretty well informed. However, I constantly have to remind myself that I still have no idea what I'm talking about when it comes to international issues due to the fact that most of my information comes through the lense of the US media. Trying to get to the actual facts of what happened in Georgia by sifting through CNN and Fox News reports is a task that man was never meant to undertake.
 

Zemalac

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SeaCalMaster post=18.68268.629736 said:
Zemalac post=18.68268.623948 said:
I read the paper every day over breakfast, but I don't think it's possible to pay attention to every detail and still have time for a normal life.
Possibly, though one could easily say the same thing about WoW, and there are intense WoWers who actually manage to have normal lives.
That's probably true. However, the real world is so much more complex than any virtual environments we've been able to build that even WoW has infinitely less details to keep track of than this planet Earth. Take the recent conflict in Georgia, for instance. If I had actually known what was going on in the region beforehand, noted in the back of my head the smoldering conflict and possible things that might set it off, I could have predicted the current crisis over there. However, since that is impossible to do without dedicating twenty-four hours a day to absorbing information, and it's impossible to remember and coherently track all of that information with the human mind anyway, I still hold that "Fairly Well Informed" is all anyone outside of the CIA can ever hope to achieve.

On an unrelated note, this is also why omnisentience is the most interesting and powerful attribute that God has.
 

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John Galt post=18.68268.629814 said:
I read the paper and subscribe to a number of magazines so yes, I guess I'm pretty well informed. However, I constantly have to remind myself that I still have no idea what I'm talking about when it comes to international issues due to the fact that most of my information comes through the lense of the US media. Trying to get to the actual facts of what happened in Georgia by sifting through CNN and Fox News reports is a task that man was never meant to undertake.
It's much easier if you follow things before they blow up - when war breaks out everyone's brings his own slant, but when it's fairly dry and unexciting information comes through fairly unfiltered. I won't point you to web sites, but you can find all kinds of news on line, including some interesting military analysis. You can start with basics like the BBC, CNN, London Times, Pravda, Pakistan News Service, Jerusalem Post, CIA Factbook, Islamic Republic News Agency, Federation of American Scientists, Global Security, Kommersant, Jane's. Many of these may surprise you, but government- and religious-controlled sites tell you what they want you to think. When you've been on them long enough to get a feel for the bias, you can then read between the lines. Look at the articles on Yahoo News, Drudge Report, Breitbart - sites like that select stories based on their own interests and biases as much as by news value, but the actual stories are usually AP, Reuters, or some other news agency. A site or reporter that gives you a very slanted view on the war in Georgia may give you a dry, unbiased report on a tunnel being built in Dogestan. When you look at an article from a foreign site, look at other articles on that site as well. In this way you get a feel for that site's issues and biases, thus giving you an idea of how (and how much, if at all) the original story was slanted. Sometimes unlikely sources - the Christian Science Monitor, for instance - have very good and wide spread reporting and analysis.

If you make friends with soldiers and Marines you can get access to some sites that are not classified but require passwords to access which have raw, unfiltered blogs, although to be honest a lot of that stuff dried up a couple years back when the computer-illiterate DOD management discovered exactly how much raw information was going out. Other sources such as global insurance underwriters and business groups are good as well, and often have mailing lists. Often insurance companies and investment groups know of impending events way before it hits the news because they have people studying the region for other reasons. These kinds of sources require contacts, obviously, or a lot of money. The Council On Foreign Relations, for instance, has an incredible amount of information worldwide; access is usually quite limited, but often a news agency like Fox News or CNN will contract with the CFR when they get caught flat-footed. One important point about these sorts of sources - honor them. Don't link to them, don't give them out, don't brag about them, don't post comments - don't abuse them or the trust of the person who gets you on.

Another odd source is Google Earth. Few regions have real-time imaging, but it's simplicity itself to see the distance between, say, Gori and Tskhinvali. With some simple study and a basic knowledge of military operations (battles are more interesting but deployments and campaigns are more useful to understand, and luckily today we have access to excellent quality, inexpensive maps as well as many day-by-day accounts of military operations.)

The object of all this is not so much to develop reliable sources - although that's important - as much as to develop an understanding of how the world is interconnected and how governments and people tend to act. After a few years, you shouldn't be really surprised by most things that appear in geopolitics - not to say you can predict war in Georgia in August '08, but if you're paying attention you'll see small reports of fighting, claims and counterclaims of attacks against civilians... Most of the places where war pops up have been simmering for years, if not decades.

If you're willing to spend a couple of hours each day reading not necessarily the most interesting things, but the most useful things, within a few years you'll have a very good grip on geopolitics.