Poll: Cyber bullying
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Just to point out, being a douchebag on LIVE isn't bullying. Rather, cyberbullying is having the school bully beat you up, have you take your pants off, take pictures of you and put them up on Facebook, then sending a reccomendation for it to everyone in the school. Cyberbullying is an extension of regular bullying for the most part.
I've got a great cyber-bullying story for you. I'm going to send it via PM though because it's a little... long, even if I greatly shortened it. I's post it here, but if people saw its length, they might consider me to be... a bit of a freak for having written so much. >_<
Come on now sharing is caring... besides we are all freaks.Yureina said:
Speaking of which i dont cyber bully people... and i wouldnt say im a bully i'm against it but i will pull jokes on my friends and vice versa sometimes it gets alittle carried away but at the end of the day we look back on it and laugh.
I do choke out my little brother and give him a fish hook now and again or a wet willy so in that regard im a physical bully but what big brother isnt?
You asked for it. I'm going to put it in spoiler tags though so I don't make this page stupidly long.aPod said:
I've got a great cyber-bullying story for you. It's also a little long, so bear with me.
Okay, so I used to play World of Warcraft. The last server I played on was a low-population server that had been released about two months before I joined the server. I transferred there in order to "retire" in a way from my days of hardcore raiding. Despite that, I immediately joined a guild named "Supremacy", having been wooed to join by its leader "Harry" who had sold the guild as high-quality and ambitious.
I joined this guild and quickly found that Harry had oversold the guild's qualities. In fact, I found that the only quality that it had was in its inflated opinion of itself. The leader was a major reason for this, since he had acquired a high position on this server and wielded considerably influence because of his position as the leader of that server's top guild. Although I was disappointed by being misled, I decided to stay in his guild while being my usual online social self with the community at large, making many friends with a large number of people. I made the most of being associated with a guild and a guild leader I didn't like.
Well... about a month after I joined Supremacy, another guild on the opposite faction, Insanity, suddenly started doing better than Supremacy was in the raiding content. Harry was not very happy about this, but he used his position as the owner of the server's "progression thread" (a list that tracks the successes of each raiding guild) to prop up Supremacy's successes and to ignore Insanity's.
After a time however, the members of Insanity and the community at large started asking why Harry was doing this, because he was in effect controlling a thread that gave important information about a server. In other words, he was using his position to promote interests that suited him. Worse, I later found out, he was using his influence to seriously undermine rival guilds on the server to the point that it was becoming all but impossible for guilds on that server to function due to the spreading of lies and internal intervention conducted either by Harry or his associates. Harry was, in effect, acting like he was the Mafia chieftain of this server.
Eventually, a very large forum fight ensued where it was Harry and his top officers standing against the majority of the server who began calling for a new progression thread to be made. Harry got his friends and guild mates to report every single post that came up about his operations, which led to a very large amount of thread closings and even some bans. Harry would do this every single time any forum comment was made that was against him in some way, and the posts got deleted with a frequency that it looked like the WoW moderators were on his payroll.
This put me in a difficult position. I was a member of Harry's guild, but I was also disillusioned with his attitude and how he had been acting like a control freak. After talking with some friends about my dilemma, I decided to state that even if I was a member of Supremacy, I did not support Harry's actions. Shortly after I made this post, one of Harry's friends asked me about my post and why I had turned my back on Harry and Supremacy. I told him the truth, but I was then told to basically "stand with us or leave." Even if it was the best guild I could join on the server (since Insanity was on the opposite faction), I chose to leave.
My departure from Supremacy won me many friends, but it apparently led to a serious outpouring of rage from Harry. About two days after my departure, Harry told me that he was going to "make [my] life as miserable as possible, starting with your economic success."
Lets back up for a moment. Although I was a member of Supremacy, my primary interest during this time had been in building up my personal wealth stockpile thanks to some new ideas I had learned about and started testing. At the time of my departure, 2 months since I arrived and 4 months since the server opened, I had a money stockpile of 75,000g with an average monthly income of about ~5,000g. While this sum was "good" for any server, it was especially so on a brand new server with limited resources where the average player had maybe 2,000g or less. My 75,000 was alot of money, roughly equivalent in wealth to the entire stock of the Supremacy guild.
So, Harry's threat was to try to wreck my steady stream of income was basically his attempt to try to wreck my only real gaming interest in WoW now that I had left the raiding guild scene upon leaving Supremacy. What surprised me was that his threat was no boast. Almost immediately, he used his guild members and their resources to effectively shut down my main market and take it over for themselves, largely through the use of Supremacy guild resources.
Unfortunately for Harry, his decision to try to ruin my gaming fun at the same time as he was fighting off the rest of the server for his arrogant behavior would prove to be fatal for his guild and his own place on that server. He thought he was shooting a deer, but instead he found himself mauled by a bear.
With no guild raiding to worry about, and now with a clear enemy in my sights, I was able to focus all of my attention towards dealing with Harry's threat. I immediately began undertaking new experimental methods I had been working towards prior to my departure from Supremacy to dramatically boost my economic machine. Eventually, my methods would lead my wealth stockpile to heights that nobody could have believed possible on such a small server.
In four years of playing WoW up to my departure from Supremacy, I had amassed 75,000g. Six months later, I would have over 500,000g, or an average pacing of making over 70,000g per month since Harry's threat. Harry's desire to make my economic life "miserable" had instead created an economic goliath that almost completely took over the server's economy. Harry and Supremacy was at my mercy, as was everyone else.
In short, Harry had been trying to push his way around on this new server by stressing his importance as being "the best". When the guild Insanity stole his #1 spot from him, he tried to use his influence to play down their achievements and to crush his up and coming opposition by spreading lies and dissent within their ranks. When people went against Harry, he tried to ruin their fun and succeeded in chasing many off the server. He met much success with all of his efforts, but his economic effort against me had badly backfired, which led to a significant weakening of Harry's position. This show of defiance and Harry's continuing high-handed attitude despite his declining importance, similar to how Napoleon acted after the Invasion of Russia, led others towards working against him and his guild. Eventually, blacklisted by its foul reputation, completely helpless as its ability to gain funds was pounded by an unexpectedly ferocious adversary, and slowly being overtaken by new rivals every day, Harry and Supremacy decided to leave
This was not the end of this story however. Harry and Supremacy went to another server where they then proceeded to carry on with their elitist attitude and treating everyone else they came across as inferiors. Unfortunately for them, the server they transferred to was not a new one like the one I was on, but was one of the oldest servers in WoW. In other words, he may have been supreme on our server, but his group was a joke compared to his new home's far more advanced guilds. He was almost immediately mauled on the forums and mocked to excess on his new home server. Not even Harry's use of friends to report threads about him and the bans that went out for trolls ridiculing him did not deter hoards of posters constantly making threads to mock his overly elitist and childish attitude.
In my 13 years of being a "creature of the internet", it was the most visceral, brutal, and satisfying display of the internet's equivalent of a "public execution" that I have ever witnessed.
Harry's guild disbanded shortly afterwards and Harry himself departed for parts unknown. As for me? well, that story isn't over just yet.
So, that's my cyber-bullying story. Sorry for the length. Alot is actually left out or cut down, believe it or not. I hope this is a good example for you of a jerk who tried to be an "internet tough guy", picked a fight with someone who had nothing better to do but to kick him back - hard, and eventually drowning in his own hubris to meet an ignominious end.
- Rei
Okay, so I used to play World of Warcraft. The last server I played on was a low-population server that had been released about two months before I joined the server. I transferred there in order to "retire" in a way from my days of hardcore raiding. Despite that, I immediately joined a guild named "Supremacy", having been wooed to join by its leader "Harry" who had sold the guild as high-quality and ambitious.
I joined this guild and quickly found that Harry had oversold the guild's qualities. In fact, I found that the only quality that it had was in its inflated opinion of itself. The leader was a major reason for this, since he had acquired a high position on this server and wielded considerably influence because of his position as the leader of that server's top guild. Although I was disappointed by being misled, I decided to stay in his guild while being my usual online social self with the community at large, making many friends with a large number of people. I made the most of being associated with a guild and a guild leader I didn't like.
Well... about a month after I joined Supremacy, another guild on the opposite faction, Insanity, suddenly started doing better than Supremacy was in the raiding content. Harry was not very happy about this, but he used his position as the owner of the server's "progression thread" (a list that tracks the successes of each raiding guild) to prop up Supremacy's successes and to ignore Insanity's.
After a time however, the members of Insanity and the community at large started asking why Harry was doing this, because he was in effect controlling a thread that gave important information about a server. In other words, he was using his position to promote interests that suited him. Worse, I later found out, he was using his influence to seriously undermine rival guilds on the server to the point that it was becoming all but impossible for guilds on that server to function due to the spreading of lies and internal intervention conducted either by Harry or his associates. Harry was, in effect, acting like he was the Mafia chieftain of this server.
Eventually, a very large forum fight ensued where it was Harry and his top officers standing against the majority of the server who began calling for a new progression thread to be made. Harry got his friends and guild mates to report every single post that came up about his operations, which led to a very large amount of thread closings and even some bans. Harry would do this every single time any forum comment was made that was against him in some way, and the posts got deleted with a frequency that it looked like the WoW moderators were on his payroll.
This put me in a difficult position. I was a member of Harry's guild, but I was also disillusioned with his attitude and how he had been acting like a control freak. After talking with some friends about my dilemma, I decided to state that even if I was a member of Supremacy, I did not support Harry's actions. Shortly after I made this post, one of Harry's friends asked me about my post and why I had turned my back on Harry and Supremacy. I told him the truth, but I was then told to basically "stand with us or leave." Even if it was the best guild I could join on the server (since Insanity was on the opposite faction), I chose to leave.
My departure from Supremacy won me many friends, but it apparently led to a serious outpouring of rage from Harry. About two days after my departure, Harry told me that he was going to "make [my] life as miserable as possible, starting with your economic success."
Lets back up for a moment. Although I was a member of Supremacy, my primary interest during this time had been in building up my personal wealth stockpile thanks to some new ideas I had learned about and started testing. At the time of my departure, 2 months since I arrived and 4 months since the server opened, I had a money stockpile of 75,000g with an average monthly income of about ~5,000g. While this sum was "good" for any server, it was especially so on a brand new server with limited resources where the average player had maybe 2,000g or less. My 75,000 was alot of money, roughly equivalent in wealth to the entire stock of the Supremacy guild.
So, Harry's threat was to try to wreck my steady stream of income was basically his attempt to try to wreck my only real gaming interest in WoW now that I had left the raiding guild scene upon leaving Supremacy. What surprised me was that his threat was no boast. Almost immediately, he used his guild members and their resources to effectively shut down my main market and take it over for themselves, largely through the use of Supremacy guild resources.
Unfortunately for Harry, his decision to try to ruin my gaming fun at the same time as he was fighting off the rest of the server for his arrogant behavior would prove to be fatal for his guild and his own place on that server. He thought he was shooting a deer, but instead he found himself mauled by a bear.
With no guild raiding to worry about, and now with a clear enemy in my sights, I was able to focus all of my attention towards dealing with Harry's threat. I immediately began undertaking new experimental methods I had been working towards prior to my departure from Supremacy to dramatically boost my economic machine. Eventually, my methods would lead my wealth stockpile to heights that nobody could have believed possible on such a small server.
In four years of playing WoW up to my departure from Supremacy, I had amassed 75,000g. Six months later, I would have over 500,000g, or an average pacing of making over 70,000g per month since Harry's threat. Harry's desire to make my economic life "miserable" had instead created an economic goliath that almost completely took over the server's economy. Harry and Supremacy was at my mercy, as was everyone else.
In short, Harry had been trying to push his way around on this new server by stressing his importance as being "the best". When the guild Insanity stole his #1 spot from him, he tried to use his influence to play down their achievements and to crush his up and coming opposition by spreading lies and dissent within their ranks. When people went against Harry, he tried to ruin their fun and succeeded in chasing many off the server. He met much success with all of his efforts, but his economic effort against me had badly backfired, which led to a significant weakening of Harry's position. This show of defiance and Harry's continuing high-handed attitude despite his declining importance, similar to how Napoleon acted after the Invasion of Russia, led others towards working against him and his guild. Eventually, blacklisted by its foul reputation, completely helpless as its ability to gain funds was pounded by an unexpectedly ferocious adversary, and slowly being overtaken by new rivals every day, Harry and Supremacy decided to leave
This was not the end of this story however. Harry and Supremacy went to another server where they then proceeded to carry on with their elitist attitude and treating everyone else they came across as inferiors. Unfortunately for them, the server they transferred to was not a new one like the one I was on, but was one of the oldest servers in WoW. In other words, he may have been supreme on our server, but his group was a joke compared to his new home's far more advanced guilds. He was almost immediately mauled on the forums and mocked to excess on his new home server. Not even Harry's use of friends to report threads about him and the bans that went out for trolls ridiculing him did not deter hoards of posters constantly making threads to mock his overly elitist and childish attitude.
In my 13 years of being a "creature of the internet", it was the most visceral, brutal, and satisfying display of the internet's equivalent of a "public execution" that I have ever witnessed.
Harry's guild disbanded shortly afterwards and Harry himself departed for parts unknown. As for me? well, that story isn't over just yet.
So, that's my cyber-bullying story. Sorry for the length. Alot is actually left out or cut down, believe it or not. I hope this is a good example for you of a jerk who tried to be an "internet tough guy", picked a fight with someone who had nothing better to do but to kick him back - hard, and eventually drowning in his own hubris to meet an ignominious end.
- Rei
That's 4 pages single-spaced in Word. I typed all of it within about 30 minutes after seeing this thread. >_>
Ok. I can't vote because the thread is too vague.
Do you want us to vote on what type of bullying we consider the worst?
Or the type of bullying we would be the most likely to commit?
Or to admit the type of bullying we have committed the most instances of?
Or to rate the type of bullying we consider the least harmful?
Clarify, please.
Do you want us to vote on what type of bullying we consider the worst?
Or the type of bullying we would be the most likely to commit?
Or to admit the type of bullying we have committed the most instances of?
Or to rate the type of bullying we consider the least harmful?
Clarify, please.
I've been bullied and I think basically anyone that's joining this thread has been bullied once or twice. I answered 'yes' to the face book bully simply because I wanted to see the results, just thought I'd tell you that. And I'm not sure if the said bullies would be aware they are bullies, sometimes bullied people will bully others when they get a small taste of power, Mister Yureina's story is a good example.
All of us here have probs bullied someone for the simple fact that we give each other insults all the time.
I don't try to hurt someone's feelings or make them feel bad on purpose but I definitely do it when I'm irritated. However I wouldn't go so far as to bully people as I've been bullied in the past. It takes too much effort and most of the idiots I want to pulverise are just not worth it.
A hugely over-hyped problem. There have been some very rare cases where people have made other people's lives hell over Facebook, in one case the mother of a teenage girl drove her daughter's ex-best friend to suicide by bullying her.Savagezion said:
This has led to a lot of people taking the issue very seriously, without realising that for most of us it isn't much of an issue at all. If someone on Facebook calls you fat (I have actually seen a brilliant Internet Safety poster at college, where one of the images to show what cyber bullying is was - no lie - the words "You're FAT!" written in MS Paint. WTF? That has to be some of the most ineffective bullying I've ever seen) you block them. If they start insulting you on a game, you stop playing, or if you're that kind of person you get better at the game and beat the shit out of them.
Cyber bullying, unlike real bullying, is usually pretty easy to avoid. We have moderators, ignore functions, the ability to remove people from our social networks, and various other methods set up to ensure that annoying people can't bother us anymore. Of course, if you're being bullied online by the same people who bully you IRL you're kinda fucked, but it's still easy to avoid the cyber side of it.
I've been bullied back in primary school (and some high school now) and i would never do it to anyone.