Poll: D&D

[Borntolose]

I like playing D&D, even though It's not my favorite P&P RPG(that would be Exalted I suppose). Me and my friends are going to start playing D&D again soon, after almost a year without playing.

 

[yoyo13rom]

I'd kill for someone to play D&D with. And for D&D sets to be sold in my country

 

[Not-here-anymore]

I haven't played any tabletop RPG's... I may start after exams though - it seems more my thing than Warhammer etc.

 

[Andantil]

I'd like to, but I don't know anyone else in my area who plays.

 

[Acaroid]

I ama big fan of 4th ed, it really is alo tmore balanced, no class is really useless and iut is great to play against powergamers! I hate powergamers so much >.<

If you need to switch rulesets to get rid of powergamers, they you've got a poor GM. A good GM can always bring about the Wrath of God in a believable manner ingame, then simply quip offgame that 'powergaming makes Solar, the servant of overgod, angry'.

A good GM quickly can get rid off, or cause trouble for powergamers that go over the line.

You see, rules go both ways. And those rules and 'legal loopholes' that they exploit can be easily turned against them.

Personally, I feel the 4th edition to have taken too much from MMOs. It may very well be better suited for D&D / RPG beginners, but for a RPG veteran with 15+ years of DMing and playing various games, it is too simple. Perhaps later addons will change this, but for now 3.5 is the only D&D I will play.

Ive played 3.5, 3 and ADnD, also played promethean (WoD) and a few others.

A power gamer is always going to be a power gamer, no matter what the GM does. 4th ed has plugged the loop holes and made a well rounded balanced combat system, which 3.5 just doesn't have. we have a group of 5 playing atm and all of us have had a decent amount of RPG experience (we did originally have 2 newbies playing, but their life got in the way so dropped out), 2 of which have 15+ years experience as you do, and we all enjoy the system just as much as any of the systems.

The thing I don't understand is how people keep comparing it to an MMOs. I hear this thrown around a lot and for the life of me cant understand why they say that. The combat system, because the miniatures are needed, leads to less of a story telling type of fighting, and more of strat side of playing (Yes I know other RPGs have it, but this just has more of it). Where you position and move is very important and adds so much more to the game. It also adds more interesting combat in the fact melee classes now do more than "basic attack", each class as all sorts of unique and interesting powers, each has its place. I guess in someway it is a bit mmoish, the fact that each class as "powers" but other than that I don't see how. in 4th edition you have so many different powers, feats, encounter powers to pick from, it really lets you customise your character really well. Seriously how boring is it to basic attack for 20 levels of gaming :|
Seriously I love just making characters for 4th editions... it is crazy how many I have, because they are all so different XD Im not sure about you but im sick of the tables of pre-set things. you really get no choice in 3.5

Some people say the "Healing" system, but when you play it, it becomes obvious that that comment makes little sense.

But really, you know the main thing I have found in my opinion, it doesn't matter at all what system you use, 3.5, 4th, 1st, because they are just really combat systems, the real joy of the game is the story telling and character interaction. As long as the system doesn't get in the way of good story telling then there is nothing wrong at all with the system.

But really, you should join a group of 4th ed players (if you haven't) and you will find it is just as fun as any other form of RPG, it is different, I enjoy it, you might not, it is all personal tastes. Honestly, I heard the same sort of comments coming from people when 3.5 came out. It is to simple la de da de da, made for power gamers etc etc.

 

[Ravek]

I have played it a few times, but never had a regular group, or even remotely regular.

 

[Valkyrie101]

No, but it's something I'd consider getting into one day.

 

[Plinglebob]

No, but only because the group I used to play with broke up, and then I moved and haven't been able to find a new group. (Southampton. If you're groups close, gimme a poke please)

Edit: I will admit I've never been a massive fan of D&D. I much prefer White Wolf products as they normally have decent ideas, great settings (go check out Exalted) and a more well rounded character building system where as D&D feels more like a combat rules manual. Still fun to play with the right group though.

 

[Vash108]

I need to find a group here in ATL
Unless anyone here runs an online game?

 

[Marter]

I've never played. Only tabletop game I've played is Warhammer Fantasy.

 

[snow]

I haven't, but I want too, sadly no one plays where I live, and the website that others from this site have shown me, where you type in your zip code and it shows you where potential groups are hanging out, didn't really help...

Luckily for me though, I found both Baldur's Gates games and their expansions for only 20 dollars.

I need to find a group here in ATL
Unless anyone here runs an online game?

If there's an online game, count me in... Yes I know DDO exists, before anyone makes that suggestion

 

[Zacharine]

I ama big fan of 4th ed, it really is alo tmore balanced, no class is really useless and iut is great to play against powergamers! I hate powergamers so much >.<

If you need to switch rulesets to get rid of powergamers, they you've got a poor GM. A good GM can always bring about the Wrath of God in a believable manner ingame, then simply quip offgame that 'powergaming makes Solar, the servant of overgod, angry'.

A good GM quickly can get rid off, or cause trouble for powergamers that go over the line.

You see, rules go both ways. And those rules and 'legal loopholes' that they exploit can be easily turned against them.

Personally, I feel the 4th edition to have taken too much from MMOs. It may very well be better suited for D&D / RPG beginners, but for a RPG veteran with 15+ years of DMing and playing various games, it is too simple. Perhaps later addons will change this, but for now 3.5 is the only D&D I will play.

Ive played 3.5, 3 and ADnD, also played promethean (WoD) and a few others.

A power gamer is always going to be a power gamer, no matter what the GM does. 4th ed has plugged the loop holes and made a well rounded balanced combat system, which 3.5 just doesn't have. we have a group of 5 playing atm and all of us have had a decent amount of RPG experience (we did originally have 2 newbies playing, but their life got in the way so dropped out), 2 of which have 15+ years experience as you do, and we all enjoy the system just as much as any of the systems.

The thing I don't understand is how people keep comparing it to an MMOs. I hear this thrown around a lot and for the life of me cant understand why they say that. The combat system, because the miniatures are needed, leads to less of a story telling type of fighting, and more of strat side of playing (Yes I know other RPGs have it, but this just has more of it). Where you position and move is very important and adds so much more to the game. It also adds more interesting combat in the fact melee classes now do more than "basic attack", each class as all sorts of unique and interesting powers, each has its place. I guess in someway it is a bit mmoish, the fact that each class as "powers" but other than that I don't see how. in 4th edition you have so many different powers, feats, encounter powers to pick from, it really lets you customise your character really well. Seriously how boring is it to basic attack for 20 levels of gaming :|
Seriously I love just making characters for 4th editions... it is crazy how many I have, because they are all so different XD Im not sure about you but im sick of the tables of pre-set things. you really get no choice in 3.5

Some people say the "Healing" system, but when you play it, it becomes obvious that that comment makes little sense.

But really, you know the main thing I have found in my opinion, it doesn't matter at all what system you use, 3.5, 4th, 1st, because they are just really combat systems, the real joy of the game is the story telling and character interaction. As long as the system doesn't get in the way of good story telling then there is nothing wrong at all with the system.

But really, you should join a group of 4th ed players (if you haven't) and you will find it is just as fun as any other form of RPG, it is different, I enjoy it, you might not, it is all personal tastes. Honestly, I heard the same sort of comments coming from people when 3.5 came out. It is to simple la de da de da, made for power gamers etc etc.

To me, the MMOish comes from the 'encounter' type system, as well as the figurine side of things. I've always preferred story-orientation.

I am not saying that 4th ed is bad. Just that as an experienced gamer (read into that whatever you wish), 4th ed doesn't hit me. Sure, they plugged holes in game mechanics and balance, but with house rules that has never been a problem for me or my usual group of gamers. Balanced characters are just as easy to create the D&D 3.5, in my humble opinion.

Perhaps part of this is because core 3.5 has been around for so long, we've made it into a game that we like, discarding idiotic rules, most of the overpowered stuff, and we've always had a good GM to balance things out. None of us have been afraid to say 'thats BS!' if we feel a powergamer is taking things too far, and the GM at the time usually puts his foot down.

We've also played several epic levels in natural progression, beginning form lvl 1 or 2 and continuing until along the lines of lvl 25-26. And let me tell you, even a 'basic' fighter is a force to be reckoned with, if you simply play your character correctly and have a proper party to act as backup. Same for thieves, our (nerfed) mages and priests etc.

Indeed, RPGs are about having fun. For me, 4th ed is not fun. Too player friendly at parts, too simplistic in others, what the heck happened to my Thief/Cleric of Talos, 'wait, healing works like what?' etc. It may change with time, if we give it a few more go's or expansions come out to make it more interesting or whatnot. But at the moment, we are having much fun with Blossoms Are Falling, Mage: The Awakening and Exalted.

 

[Caurus]

I try to but as a lady woman its hard to find people to play with who aren't terrified of you/don't want you there lol.
When I get the chance I really enjoy it. 3.5 FTW x

 

[Vash108]

I haven't, but I want too, sadly no one plays where I live, and the website that others from this site have shown me, where you type in your zip code and it shows you where potential groups are hanging out, didn't really help...

Luckily for me though, I found both Baldur's Gates games and their expansions for only 20 dollars.

I need to find a group here in ATL
Unless anyone here runs an online game?

If there's an online game, count me in... Yes I know DDO exists, before anyone makes that suggestion

We used Maptools and what not to play online. It was pretty fun actually. Would be kinda neat to get an Escapist group going.

I try to but as a lady woman its hard to find people to play with who aren't terrified of you/don't want you there lol.
When I get the chance I really enjoy it. 3.5 FTW x

We usually had 2 Lady Womens who played in our game a few years ago. I don't see why people are afraid, it helps to bring more color and differing opinions to the table. Hell I think they got into it more then we did.

 

[righthead]

I play, if you get with the right group of people it can be the most hilarious experience of your life. It can also take you 3 hours to get to the first encounter of the day.

 

[Hurr Durr Derp]

I used to. My regular D&D group broke up a while ago.

These days I only roleplay online (IRC), mostly Dark Heresy.

 

[Zombus]

I LOVE DND.
But I have LARPed and I still feel a bit dirty. ~ugh~

 

[000Ronald]

No, but I wouldn't mind trying at least once.

I'd probably suck, but hey.

'pologies.

 

[righthead]

I like 4th ed better than 3.5, if only because your healer doesn't have to be a cleric

 

[snow]

I haven't, but I want too, sadly no one plays where I live, and the website that others from this site have shown me, where you type in your zip code and it shows you where potential groups are hanging out, didn't really help...

Luckily for me though, I found both Baldur's Gates games and their expansions for only 20 dollars.

I need to find a group here in ATL
Unless anyone here runs an online game?

If there's an online game, count me in... Yes I know DDO exists, before anyone makes that suggestion

We used Maptools and what not to play online. It was pretty fun actually. Would be kinda neat to get an Escapist group going.

I try to but as a lady woman its hard to find people to play with who aren't terrified of you/don't want you there lol.
When I get the chance I really enjoy it. 3.5 FTW x

We usually had 2 Lady Womens who played in our game a few years ago. I don't see why people are afraid, it helps to bring more color and differing opinions to the table. Hell I think they got into it more then we did.

I thought about getting one going, though from my lack of experience in the field, I would probably be made a fool with all these experienced players on the site. xD