Poll: Devil May Cry Reboot. Fan Reactions.

[Laurie Barnes]

I know it looks bad right now but... a couple days ago i finished crisis core:FF7 on psp.Cloud and Sephiroth were always called the best characters ever etc. But after i played through crisis core i saw Cloud and Sephiroth's past.It makes them grow as characters and seem that much more epic.Previously unexplained things about them are revealed and it helps them seem much more real.Now back on topic, the DMC reboot could do just this, it could explain how Dante became the demon hunter we know and love today, and even make the older games more enjoyable because of how Dante's past will now be revealed.It could make the connection between Dante and the player much deeper. This COULD happen...or it could ruin the series.I guess we'll have to *takes glasses off* wait and DMC.

Again I must stress that this discussion is not about whether the game will be good or not. This is a discussion on how seeing what they did to Dante makes you, the fans, feel. Are you excited for the possibilities this represents? Or are you like me and just feeling like you have been betrayed? Or are you of another position entirely. Forget about the game for a moment, and instead think only about the story, and what will happen to a hero of millions.

Edit, on the gameplay standpoint I do have an opinion however. Heavenly sword was a pile of hyped up trash, and HOW DARE THE CREATORS OF THAT SHIT EVEN THINK THEY CAN TOUCH DEVIL MAY CRY!?

 

[The-Bad-Blooded]

As long as he turns-into the old Dante at the end, I'm fine with it.

 

[saintchristopher]

My god. You guys are the same awful kinds of demanding, how-dare-they fans who made Sucker Punch change Infamous 2's Cole McGrath from the younger, handsome (and much more appropriate) look back to that awful middle-aged meth-cooker look.

Let's get something straight: Dante was not "cool." He was a snotty, ridiculous, poorly written caricature of what Japanese people thought a "badass" American was like. Dante gets treated like he's Clint fucking Eastwood, and most of his lines are completely interchangeable with that of Jak's sidekick Daxter.

They haven't ruined an iconic gaming badass. Solid Snake is an iconic gaming badass. Kain is an iconic gaming badass. John Marston, hell even Master Chief. Dante is written as a flashy douchebag who's cringingly out of touch.

You're all going to buy the game anyway, so you need to seriously get over yourselves. There are so many other things to argue about.

 

[Ashcrexl]

he's fine as an original character. just dont compare him to the old dante. which you shouldnt be doing anyway. that guy's been in 3 games already (i'm not counting DMC2 dante cuz that was most definitely not the same dante) so it's about time we got an original character.

 

[VGC USpartan VS]

The guys at Capcom said that this game was an origin story and they knew everybody would hate the new Dante and that are pressing on anyways. So everybody, get ready to play a gmae with the man once hailed as "The Coolest Video Game Character" reduced to a teenage brat... I don't care if he gets his old look back at the end of the game. Why? Cause it's at the END of the game. Capcom, you have two strikes against you now. First you refuse to make another Megaman X game and now this?? Good job, you're the second most hated video game publisher in the world.







(1st being Activision of cource)

 

[sheah1]

I welcome it, especially since this guy seems to still be Dante, from what we've seen; He's a badass, he's a punk, but, oh wait, he doesn't have white hair and has apparent mental issues! Yeah, because he obviously came out of the womb with white hair and his original attitude, that totally makes sense.

Also, before anyone goes "THIS IS ALL NINJA THEORY'S FAULT! DEATH TO NINJA THEORY! THIS WOULD NEVER HAVE HAPPENED IN THE HANDS OF THE ORIGINALS! HUR DUR!"

Yeah.... the original developers are the ones who wanted and made the changes to Dante's character.
If you want to blame anyone then blame all the people who hated Nero, Dante's story was over, they couldn't take it further which was why he passed the torch onto Nero, but everyone bitched and moaned about an actually pretty interesting character, so instead of finding out if Nero is a reincarnation of Virgil, and what exactly he's going to do next, we've got this. Don't ***** and moan if you can't handle the consequences (I'm not trying to specifically say that you bitched and moaned about Nero, that line just seemed like a cool way to finish this)

 

[saintchristopher]

Did you read my post? We feel the same way about original Dante, but I hate the new one anyway. This is because they turned him from the kind of guy I'd kick in the nuts for speaking into the kind of guy that makes my skin crawl and my arms reflexively grab the nearest weapon.

Edit: fixed a word.

Sorry, I didn't see that. And it obviously wasn't directed at you, or any one in particular.

Though my point, I think, is still valid: Who gives a shit! At this point, everybody who might have played the game in the first place has already made up their minds on whether or not they're going to do so. And the joke is that most of the biggest detractors of the redesign are going to play the game anyway! If you hate the redesigned Dante, that is literally the opposite of what you need to do to get your point across.

DMC fans, the truth is that if you truly hate the character design, you CANNOT buy this game. Because supporting the product will only serve to validate something you've spent months and months pissing and moaning about.

And if you hate the redesign, but it isn't enough to keep you from buying the game, then what's the point of talking about it? Your anger is invalidated by your intent to buy it anyway. You can't denounce something and then turn around and support the product if you actually want to affect the change you want.

I am (probably rather obviously) not going to buy this game, but as far as I'm concerned, I'll take a sour-puss who's too miserable for his own good over an insufferable tool who cann't keep his mouth shut 11 times out of 10.

 

[Asuka Soryu]

I've gotta admit, I only recently got into DMC, and after playing DMC 4 and watching the DMC anime, I came to admire the bad-assery of Dante...

Then I saw this new 'Dante' and I thought to myself... ''da fuck is this shit''

Seriously, it's like everything that made me think Dante was a badass just got shotgunned in the chest and stumbled out the window of a 40 story building.

 

[squid5580]

Booooo we want innovation. Everything is always the same.

Booooo they changed shit

yes that is how stupid it sounds when you remove the wall of texts that try and feign intelligence.

 

[NeutralDrow]

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Other than the slams against Dante (I'm sorry, he's still a badass; if you want, just ignore DMC3 in favor of DMC1...or hell, DMC2), I'm pretty much in agreement. Something about using the phrase "fan loyalty" for any game that isn't an MMO just reeks of entitlement.

And I'm still looking forward to this.

 

[Jonesy911]

I wanted Nero dammit

 

[saintchristopher]

Booooo we want innovation. Everything is always the same.

Booooo they changed shit

i lol'd. I love deconstruction.

 

[NickCooley]

As long as the game play is still the same I couldn't give a rats ass. Besides, brooding emo vs arrogant male stripper? Not so much a downgrade as a step to the side.

 

[pendragon177]

"The original concepts that came back for Dante were actually extremely close to the Dante everyone knows and loves," Svensson explained. "The feedback that came back from [Keiji] Inafune and [Hideaki] Itsuno was, 'No guys, this needs to be completely different, we need you to go much further and be much more creative.'"


"This is meant to be an origin story, so this is Dante before you knew who Dante was," he explained. "There is going to be some interesting changes and twists to what people think they know about Dante or where he came from. We aren't planning on deviating greatly from the path that is there."

Full Article: [link]http://uk.xbox360.ign.com/articles/112/1129209p1.html[/link]

 

[loremazd]

Honestly, I kinda salute Capcom. They can take risks and they usually pay off.

 

[Artina89]

I will give this game a chance. I mean, I won't exactly be running to the front of the queue on release day, more like I will wait until it is cheap. It probably won't be as good as DMC 3, but I hope that this will exceed expectations and not completely kill off the series. I guess we will have to wait and see.

 

[Laurie Barnes]

You know what.

Honestly, I kinda salute Capcom. They can take risks and they usually pay off.

Fair enough, I am going to play the game if only to support taking a chance. I also want to brutally assault anyone who bitched about Nero. We could have had another game with him in it, and Dante Moonlighting, but instead we get the reboot that is flogging a horse that died ages ago. Maybe Capcom is trying to make a point. Personally I loved Nero for being a sorta cross between Dante and Megaman, and anyone who didn't like it can kiss my ass.

 

[emeraldrafael]

Why yes, I DO approve of the new Dante AND the new Lara for that matter.

There's SO much more character and story in
<spoiler=This>http://admintell.napco.com/ee/images/uploads/gamertell/DmC_new_Dante.jpg

then there is in
<spoiler=This>http://www.abbyshot.com/newsletters/photos/dante-dmc03.jpg

I mean, with the first, you could write a series of books or two about him just on that pciture alone. What can you do with the latter? You couldnt even get past fifty pages before it got boring and the character was uninteresting.

Besides, there's white in the first's hair, so suck it up.

and I'm gonna leave this hear for good measure:
http://www.gamertell.com/gaming/comment/theres-a-good-reason-capcom-changed-dante-character-design-in-dmc/

while quoting this out of it
<quote=GamerTell>Tameem Antoniades is the creative director at Ninja Theory, the developer behind DmC. Speaking with 1UP, Antoniades explained Dante is all about being cool. Dante?s old design was modeled after what was considered hip fashion in Japan at the time. Basically, old Dante?s fashion would be considered lame by today?s standards. New Dante was modeled after the ?rebellious youth? of today. That was one of the reasons Capcom needed to come up with a different vision for Dante.

 

[hyperdrachen]

Interviews with the developers deliver a clear message. They have pulverized this character and his origin into a blank slate that they can paste thier personal fantasies that 1980s punk rockers actually did something to progress culture, or overcome elitest corporate controlled society. They think this happened and have diluted the DMC Story, which i thought passed for a really cool fantasy story, into some generic ass rage against the machine bullshit.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9rAJycoiLdg

I really hope that it's my imagination that this guys inspiration, was himself.

Hideki Kamiya's character and setting have been well shit on at this point. DMC put 3d action on the map, and brought such colorful style and flash to the party. Ninja Theory is taking the franchise smashing it to the ground and superimposing "culturaly relevant" bullshit. These guys don't have what it takes to carry this franchise forward, they can't even fake it in the interviews. Thier back catalogue is equally dissapointing.

Just because Dark Knight was good, doesn't mean everyone should be mashing the gritty reboot button.

 

[Laurie Barnes]

You know what I have been thinking about it and this could actually work. It shocked me to the core, but it can work, and won't change the stuff that I already love. Really I only made this thread because I needed some guidance on how to deal with this. Having seen both sides of the argument I am having a great deal of difficulty hating it as much as I did while completely ignorant. HOWEVER, If Ninja Theory screws this up, I will head a crusade to see every single one of their games boycotted by the consumer public. If the game isn't at least as good as DMC4, then they will pay.

In truth I identify with the whole mental institute thing, and the whole dark punk/emo thing too. Also for those of you who say that the new themes have no place should remember that Video games are as much art as entertainment, and the truly great games focus on being artistic expression.

So in closing, go ahead, make Dante relevant, and even achievable for the average youth. But god help you if you screw it up.