Poll: Diablo 3....ehhh?

[SarcasminBloom]

I would like to apologize if this topic has already been created, we just passed the heat of Blizzcon after all.

So, I was psyched for this game. Absolutely, 100% PSYCHED. But now as the updates are being released from Blizzcon, and the rumors are flowing through my ears, I am disappoint. Tres disappoint.

The new classes seem really...ehh to me, just a desperate attempt to cram the main classes from Diablo 2 into something different. I may be wrong with this, but especially with the release of the Demon Hunter....ehhhhhhh, can you say Amassassin orgy?

Plus I hear they are getting rid of potions and replacing them with "health and mana orbs" (a la God of War). How are bosses even going to work?

AUGH SO SKEPTICAL.

Can you fine people of the Escapist clear my mind or add to my fears? Discuss.

 

[SarcasminBloom]

When has Blizzard ever let you down before? (Excluding Starcraft 2 of course.)

The new changes to WoW.

 

[hittite]

Sadly, I had to vote choice 4, as my current computer was obsolete 5 years ago and I haven't the money to upgrade.

 

[Mekado]

Sacred 2 fills my hack-and-slash needs, i was looking forward to Diablo3 but it dosen't seems like it'll be anything special, like D2 was.

 

[SarcasminBloom]

Sadly, I had to vote choice 4, as my current computer was obsolete 5 years ago and I haven't the money to upgrade.

Although there is nothing wrong with this. D2 is a solid game which I'm still playing. Haha.

 

[Coldie]

The 4 "old" classes are quite nice and promising. However, Demon Hunter is Batman and seems to be noticeably more awesome than your average D3 class, like Barbarian.

As for potions, I don't see the problem. The potions are still there, plus there are orbs for a free heal. Win-win. Although there probably won't be that many mana potions or orbs, if any at all, seeing as only one of five classes actually has mana.

Overall, the game looks way too awesome. We might be looking at a world-shattering Awesomeness Singularity if they keep improving the game genre at this rate.

 

[Telperion]

Excluding Starcraft 2 of course.

[mutters quietly]...I think Starcraft 2 is an awesome game...[/mutters quietly]

Anyway, can you provide a link to the news you are reporting on?

 

[SarcasminBloom]

The 4 "old" classes are quite nice and promising. However, Demon Hunter is Batman and seems to be noticeably more awesome than your average D3 class, like Barbarian.

As for potions, I don't see the problem. The potions are still there, plus there are orbs for a free heal. Win-win. Although there probably won't be that many mana potions or orbs, if any at all, seeing as only one of five classes actually has mana.

Overall, the game looks way too awesome. We might be looking at a world-shattering Awesomeness Singularity if they keep improving the game genre at this rate.

Ohhhh, I thought the potions were being removed completely, at least that's what I was told. That's much better than.

And I do LOVE me some Batman....perhaps I am excited again.

 

[Gardenia]

I love the Orb-system and all that stuff, but yeah, the classes all seem a bit lame. However, I have no doubt Blizzard will make them an absolute blast to play, because that's what they always do, the bastards. When the time comes I will blame them for all the things in my life that go to shit due to neglect.

 

[SarcasminBloom]

Excluding Starcraft 2 of course.

[mutters quietly]...I think Starcraft 2 is an awesome game...[/mutters quietly]

Anyway, can you provide a link to the news you are reporting on?

Most of the things I have heard are rumors, at least regarding the potion thing. A lovely game of telephone, if you will.

As for the Demon Hunter, I gathered my opinion from the trailer they released at Blizzcon.

 

[SarcasminBloom]

So, I was psyched for this game. Absolutely, 100% PSYCHED. But now as the updates are being released from Blizzcon, and the rumors are flowing through my ears, I am disappoint. Tres disappoint.

So that one class and the pvp announcement totally ripped your interest in D3? You lose interest really fast, i must say.

Well, rumors from others also contributed. I especially started getting skeptical from that gap where we didn't hear anything for about 6 months - a year-ish. I guess I should allow Blizzard a chance to wow me, it's just the whole Oh crap this game is going to be 60 bucks out of pocket thing. :/

 

[Jewrean]

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1) So I'm assuming you have better classes in mind to think that their ones are 'meh'? I could also point out that the Necromancer and Sorceress are just sub-classes of the original Sorcerer from D1, the Barb and Pally sub classes of the Warrior, and the Amazon and Assassin being sub classes of the original Rogue. Even though the Witch Doctor is similar to the Necro, at least it is something we haven't really seen before. Would you prefer just the Warrior/Mage/Archer hack job that so many games repeat?

2) SC2 was basically more of the same of SC1. Why is changing a few things of the traditional dungeon crawler (ie: potions now orbs) a bad thing? Is this the same mentality that keeps gay people from being married, religion remains in power, and creative + innovative solutions to perceived outdated systems from ever seeing the light of day? I mean seriously? Complaining about details like that? The game will not fail to put it simply. If you don't like it then yeah like your earlier suggestion just play some more D2.

3) Blizzard have always made high quality games, and when they don't... they simply don't release them (SC:Ghost). So many people ***** about SC2 and other than their own personal gripes with it (ie: no LAN) their accusations are mostly just troll speak. I mean take a look at people who constantly claim Halo is shit when from many points of view it is actually a 'GOOD' game. The original had great graphics for its time, easy controls, working multiplayer, good gameplay and weapons, lots of maps... and yet people constantly rip on it. Blizzard and other game companies have been patient to this kind of people. If you think you have better ideas, then make the game yourself or just don't buy their game. Simple. No use constantly being Captain bring-down. Wait until the game comes out and you've played it! Jeez!

it's just the whole Oh crap this game is going to be 60 bucks out of pocket thing. :/

4) American escapist members should stop whinging about games being $60 when the majority of the rest of the world pays double what you pay.

EDIT:
Like Blizzard always does, they will release some sort of expansion pack with some extra characters to satiate fans. I believe Blizzard has said that they are thinking of bringing the Necromancer back in one of those expansion packs. Just a rumour at this stage.

 

[ottenni]

The absence of the Paladin makes me a sad sad panda.

But other than that i'm pumped. Its been a long time since i went on a clicking frenzy and im very very interested in the Witch Doctor class.

 

[Kurokami]

When has Blizzard ever let you down before? (Excluding Starcraft 2 of course.)

What was dissapointing about SC2? Other than their entire online layout... But the game's pretty solid imo. (even if story is done in a pretty cliche way)

I'm looking forward to Diablo 3 no matter what, from what I understand the orbs aren't replacing potions though.

 

[Bon_Clay]

Besides the assassin elements this class wasn't a huge surprise for me. I mean they hadn't shown a bow class yet, and I really doubt they would wait until an expansion to have one. Even though I doubt it will be one of the first I try out, still doesn't look like a terrible class.

I'll probably do the equivalent of what I do with D2, start out with Witch Doctor(insures you always have other targets around you to take the heat off and stay safe) then move on to Wizard (by now comfortable enough with the game to focus on power and stay out of danger by teleporting around and staying illusive).

Making potions take a back seat to orbs could go either way, it might be a convenient improvement, or I may think only potions was better. Its hard to tell without trying it out.

Either way I'm still excited for the game, Blizzard takes their sweet ass time but its always for a reason in the end. In the mean time I've started playing D2 again. Level 82 light sorc bitches.

 

[Jandau]

Looking forward to D3. As far as classes go, I'd preffer if they dropped the Barbarian as well. He just seems like the most boring and generic class of the bunch. Also, I never got the whole hard-on the D2 fanbase has for the Necromancer. He was one of my least favourite classes, so the lack of him is hardly an issue. With Starcraft 2 Blizzard has shown they are still capable of making a solid game that stands on its own legs instead of just pooping out WoW expansions, so I have very high hopes for D3.

 

[adrian_exec]

Plus I hear they are getting rid of potions and replacing them with "health and mana orbs" (a la God of War). How are bosses even going to work?

As far as the health system will go. From what I've heard yes orbs will spawn, but they won't get rid of potions. The orbs will be there just to reduce the number of potions that will drop .. you know in D2 where all your inventory was full of dropped potions.

 

[Kurokami]

When has Blizzard ever let you down before? (Excluding Starcraft 2 of course.)

What was dissapointing about SC2? Other than their entire online layout... But the game's pretty solid imo. (even if story is done in a pretty cliche way)

I'm looking forward to Diablo 3 no matter what, from what I understand the orbs aren't replacing potions though.

Every mission although interesting always resulted in "spam the unit we give you this round to win"
The story itself was, sure, kinda not fantastic but not bad.
The ending... what the fuck was that bullshit?
Basically it was just that it was a really generic RTS that excelled at nothing.
Sure it had style so I will give it points for that. It presented itself very well and there were a few bits that were outright awesome or hilarious but well, everything had been done better elsewhere.
The battle system was very run of the mill, DoW had a infinitely better battle system.
The story telling in game was pathetic. Sure it may have had awesome cut scenes but in game there was fuck all. And after the awesomeness that was WC3 it just felt really dull. WC3 did not need no flashy cut scenes to tell its story. It did most of it in mission and it was awesome!

In short, generic rts that may have been decent for another company but coming from blizzard and how long it took it was nowhere near as good as it should have been.

I think maybe you were expecting a bit too much, the campaign missions were all easy and beatable exactly as you said, but really the Campaigns in those games are generally used more as a tutorial, as for the battle system, I'm not sure what you were expecting from SC2, it certainly was more or less the same as SC1, which is good cause if it wasn't it would've gotten a whole lot more flak and to be frank I don't think it had anything wrong with it. Ultimately my point is, the singleplayer isn't what it was made for, you're absolutely right that WC3 was great, I despised the campaign missions in compared to SC2, but at the same time the story was so much better. But SC2 as a multiplayer game meant more for its ballanced/varried races (meaning great for competitive play and generally actually fun to watch (no way in hell I'd be able to match competitive players)) and moding capabilities (by which I mean the ability to make new games using the map editor, not literally moding the game) isn't in my opinion a let down.

What I am hugely dissapointed with rather is the entire online layout, that you can't simply look up servers, see the players/map and join in, no instead they decided to show maps by popularity and let you join em to see if by chance people are playing, and if not make you host the map. (Its got its upsides but it bothers me, perhaps there's a way around it but I haven't really spent much time around the game as that really bothered me)

Basically, don't get me wrong the game wasn't the time killing godsend I expected, but its still a nice well rounded game that was fun to play.

(Still prefer WC3 cause of its fantasy setting though, tbh)