Poll: Diablo 3 Expansion Confirmed

[Sean951]

The thing I hate about Diablo 3 is that they expect you to play the same content over and over and over again on slightly harder difficulties each time until you get to level 60, at which point they want you to just farm equipment so you can have an easier time doing that inferno content, or to sell it so you get gold for... something or other/real money while giving other people an easier time doing that Inferno content. While it's nice that there's a new expansion, they'll still want people to continue that farming/difficulty level playing.

Also, DRM ruined hardmode. Server errors and hacking make hardmode what it is, not difficulty within the game.

Here is someone who clearly didn't play the original. The whole point of Diablo's replayability was doing it over and over while it got slightly more difficult.

 

[ZippyDSMlee]

Daiblo in name only.....

 

[COMaestro]

People seem to forget that D3 sold over 6 million copies in its first week. An expansion pack is no surprise at all. I still don't get why people have such an issue with the game. I've enjoyed it quite a bit. While I don't play it much any more, I still duck in every so often when I've got time to kill.

It is because of the "Online Only" thing, mainly. Also the Real Money Auction House which hasn't changed a damn thing. It existed illegally through alternate means back in D2, and it exists now. The only difference: Blizzard gets a cut of the money.

Also: All those complaining about the "Online Only" thing, I have noticed are almost always online. At least around here. They have no reason to complain about it as it hasn't really changed anything either.

I feel I was entitled to complain about the Online Only element when I was continually getting disconnected from the D3 servers. I may always be online, but if the servers aren't working, then I can't play. I never have problems playing other multiplayer games, so I know it's not my ISP. It just meant that Blizzard's servers were overloaded and dropped people on occasion. However, I was able to play Diablo 2 with no disconnections whatsoever since it was only running ON MY PC!!

That said, I enjoyed D3 for what it was worth. I'll probably go back someday and play it with the other characters. But they really dropped the ball with the skill trees since all the members of each class are always EXACTLY THE SAME as they level up. D2 was so much better with its leveling and skill trees. You could play through with two Necromancers and have completely different characters by the end of the game. In D3, they'll be exactly the same except for equipment and (possibly) what skills they currently have selected.

 

[krazykidd]

Wait people still play Diablo3?

Well i guess this goes to show , people will pay for anything with a well known name ( diablo)

Yes, and it has nothing to do with the fact that it was a well made game. Nope. It is just because of the name. No other reason. Nope.


OT: Hunt for Adria is my bet.

Was it? I thought the general consensus was it was terribly boring . I may have gotten my facts wrong. And i may be a little bias due to the fact i played it about 1 month before dropping it . But i seriously didn't hear much after the first week , not to say people don't play it , but it wasn't all that good .

 

[Aeshi]

In D3, (everyone's) exactly the same except for equipment and (possibly) what skills they currently have selected.

So in other words "Everyone's identical (aside from gear, skills and anything else that makes them unique?)"

Or are you implying that there was a stat/skill allocation in Diablo II worth picking/using that wasn't an "Enough Strength & Dexterity for Gear requirements, everything else into Vitality, ignore Magic altogether" build based around spamming whatever your classes version of Frozen Orb/Sacred Hammer was?

 

[rekabdarb]

Well lets see, the Black Soulstone was never destroyed.

It fell back to earth.
Tyrael has mentioned that the Archangel of Wisdom is missing, having gone insane.

And Adria the "Evil" witch from Diablo 1 is still out and about. And you know what, I think she senses a soul in search of answers.

Here is someone who clearly didn't play the original. The whole point of Diablo's replayability was doing it over and over while it got slightly more difficult.

See but here's the thing about D1/2.

It wasn't bogged down in cutscenes. the villains NEVER talked, except baal but the only time he did, he followed through with some head exploding.

Diablo in act 4 just sounds like a whiny *****. Or a little kid who is trying to beat you in imagination time. "MY PORTALS TO THE UNDERWORLD ARE INDESTRUCTIBLE ZOMG YOU KILLED THEM. BUT UHM THERES LIKE 3 MORE OH MY GIDDY AUNT YOU KILLED THOSE TOO!!"

 

[DeadlyYellow]

Here is someone who clearly didn't play the original. The whole point of Diablo's replayability was doing it over and over while it got slightly more difficult.

D2 is where it really found its sweet spot. The limitations of that particular class system made builds much more engaging and meaningful, thus offering a broader scope of gameplay across all classes. The lack thereof in D3 meant that there really was no reason to play multiples of any class sans the online friend clause or trophy hunting.
[sub]Though there's always something to be said about a game needing to use superficial incentives to begin with.[/sub]

 

[The Rascal King]

Daiblo in name only.....

Either if you made a clever joke or grammatical error, that post warrants my love to you.

Wait people still play Diablo3?

Well i guess this goes to show , people will pay for anything with a well known name ( diablo)

Hey kid! Ever been stabbed?


All jest aside I'll probably have to wait upwards of three years for this thing to come out but I am really excited for it nonetheless.

 

[ElectroJosh]

I am going with both Covetous Shen and the Jewel while Hunting for Adria.

I had fun, at first, with D3 - but I am not playing it at all right now. If I hear the expansion adds a lot more life to the game I will start a new character and go for it (I assume a new class or two are on the way).

 

[irishda]

See but here's the thing about D1/2.

It wasn't bogged down in cutscenes. the villains NEVER talked, except baal but the only time he did, he followed through with some head exploding.

Diablo in act 4 just sounds like a whiny *****. Or a little kid who is trying to beat you in imagination time. "MY PORTALS TO THE UNDERWORLD ARE INDESTRUCTIBLE ZOMG YOU KILLED THEM. BUT UHM THERES LIKE 3 MORE OH MY GIDDY AUNT YOU KILLED THOSE TOO!!"

The villains usually screamed something or other when you first ran across them, but yeah, all the talking they did was certainly my least favorite part of it. Like some saturday morning cartoon villain yelling at the hero from his fortress. I can't for the life of me figure out why Azmodan is Hell's greatest general. Dumbass kept telling you what he's doing like a Bond villain.

But sans the dialogue I thought the bosses were much better than in D2. For the most part, they don't have the generic look from the originals. Some of the bosses in D2 were just straight color swaps (The Forger in act 1 and Hephasteus in Hell, The dead rogue boss in the graveyard), and they were rather flat from a character standpoint. Most of the time it was just "Hey, this person's bad and we saw them, go kill 'em." In D3, we at least get some personality behind ALL the bosses.

 

[rekabdarb]

But sans the dialogue I thought the bosses were much better than in D2. For the most part, they don't have the generic look from the originals. Some of the bosses in D2 were just straight color swaps (The Forger in act 1 and Hephasteus in Hell, The dead rogue boss in the graveyard), and they were rather flat from a character standpoint. Most of the time it was just "Hey, this person's bad and we saw them, go kill 'em." In D3, we at least get some personality behind ALL the bosses.

Alright well the smith/heph could be explained in the sense that they are both goddamn smithing-typeish demons. Same family.

And blood raven might be generic, but she actually had a story. You remember diablo 1? Yeah she was the rogue.

Also since when the hell did we start doing commercials in the captchas... Cause mine is literally telling me t go get "TEH HOPPAH FROM DISH"

 

[ZippyDSMlee]

Daiblo in name only.....

Either if you made a clever joke or grammatical error, that post warrants my love to you.

Wait people still play Diablo3?

Well i guess this goes to show , people will pay for anything with a well known name ( diablo)

Hey kid! Ever been stabbed?


All jest aside I'll probably have to wait upwards of three years for this thing to come out but I am really excited for it nonetheless.

Mmmmmm more an error sadly ;_; , also if I want to be constantly online in a game it will be an F2P game.

 

[funksobeefy]

While i dont remember much about the Diablo 3 storyline, I don remember Covatus Shen. He remaindered me of Hen Peck Ho from Jade Empire and thats cool. So I really hope its about that.

 

[Tiamattt]

Well, considering d2's expansion only added one act either Adria or Imperius can probably carry the load story wise. It actually wouldn't surprise me if the next expan was focused on one of them and a later 2nd one would on the other. As much as I love Shen I think anything to do him would be minor at best.

 

[kortin]

Sounds cool. As long as they don't make it a $60 xpac, I'll probably get it.

 

[WoW Killer]

I just had a thought... IIRC Imperius was originally going to be a boss in Act IV. If the expansions were already being planned during the main development, which I expect they were, then that probably rules Imperius out. So Adria is more likely.

Captcha: that hurts. That's what she said.

 

[Do4600]

In D3, (everyone's) exactly the same except for equipment and (possibly) what skills they currently have selected.

So in other words "Everyone's identical (aside from gear, skills and anything else that makes them unique?)"

Or are you implying that there was a stat/skill allocation in Diablo II worth picking/using that wasn't an "Enough Strength & Dexterity for Gear requirements, everything else into Vitality, ignore Magic altogether" build based around spamming whatever your classes version of Frozen Orb/Sacred Hammer was?

And how is the current system any different besides the fact that now you don't have an illusion of choice? Now builds are only dependent on equipment, as a matter of fact, everything is dependent on equipment, you can no longer specialize and min max your skills to squeak by, you need equipment to advance, that's all.

 

[irishda]

Well, considering d2's expansion only added one act either Adria or Imperius can probably carry the load story wise. It actually wouldn't surprise me if the next expan was focused on one of them and a later 2nd one would on the other. As much as I love Shen I think anything to do him would be minor at best.

There's some pretty hefty weight behind Shen, since there's the whole mystery of whether or not he's a god or just crazy. And the search for the jewel with the demon inside could carry an expansion.

There's some minor stuff for all the followers too now that I think about it, the Templar's one is really the most exciting on its surface. Taking down a corrupt templar order would be pretty great. The Enchantress' sisters could have some cool mystic storyline behind em, but right now its just a "Where's Poochy?" type deal. And they'd have to do some serious overhauling to get me to care about busting Lyndon's brother out for an entire expansion. I wouldn't mind if all three were lumped together into one pack, or doled out on some cheap $10 add-on.

 

[irishda]

In D3, (everyone's) exactly the same except for equipment and (possibly) what skills they currently have selected.

So in other words "Everyone's identical (aside from gear, skills and anything else that makes them unique?)"

Or are you implying that there was a stat/skill allocation in Diablo II worth picking/using that wasn't an "Enough Strength & Dexterity for Gear requirements, everything else into Vitality, ignore Magic altogether" build based around spamming whatever your classes version of Frozen Orb/Sacred Hammer was?

And how is the current system any different besides the fact that now you don't have an illusion of choice? Now builds are only dependent on equipment, as a matter of fact, everything is dependent on equipment, you can no longer specialize and min max your skills to squeak by, you need equipment to advance, that's all.

I'll agree that things are more dependent on equipment these days. But I definitely see a lot more customization, both in items and in skills. You're just as likely to see a cleaving barbarian with a sword-and-shield as you are a two-handed whirlwind or dual-wielding frenzy barb. Everyone's got their own permutations, especially with the skill modifiers. It's pick a build, find the equipment that compliments that build, and I like that more than just dumping all your points into two or three skills.

 

[Tuesday Night Fever]

At first I figured it would probably focus on Adria, as that's a hugely important plot point that was left completely open at the conclusion of the game proper. But now I think it'll likely be something more minor than that, since they'll probably want to save their biggest story for last. So of the choices... I think it'll likely focus on Imperious.

He'll probably be either angry that you stole his thunder and swear vengeance on you, or he'll be (somehow) corrupted and generically evil. Either way, you'll be forced to take him out. And because it's an expansion pack, and takes place after the game proper, he'll somehow be more powerful than Diablo was so that he'll be a legitimate challenge to players, even if it makes absolutely no sense plot-wise.

That said, I won't be buying it. Diablo 3 started out as a reasonably fun game, got repetitive incredibly fast due to its fairly boring level design, fairly uninteresting character builds that lack D2's replayability, constant Blizzard trademarked buff/nerf cycles that render a class OP one week then worthless the next, and the auction house that the entire freaking game was developed around. If the expansion somehow manages to correct these problems I had with D3, I'll maybe consider picking it up. Otherwise, I have no interest in going back. I can get my grindy loot farming in more fun places like Guild Wars 2 or Borderlands 2.

Although I must say, I prefer expansion packs to endless amounts of small, overly priced DLC.

Quoted due to my absolute agreement with this sentiment. I miss the expansion packs of the late 90's/early 2000's which were practically full games on their own.