Poll: DMC 5 Why all the hatred?

[TehCookie]

My response from the other duplicate thread:

Is it really that hard to understand why people hate it when the only thing similar is the names? There is a lot of trust in a name, and a promise of quality and DmC fails to live up to Devil May Cry expectations. To the fans, it doesn't matter if it's a good game or not, what matters is if it's a good DMC.

People are condemning Ninja theory based on their past games where the gameplay was the worst part of the game. They'll praise the story or environments, which can make a good game but that's not what DMC is about. Not to mention I'm not seeing any of NT's quality in this.
In DMC all the over the top action was ssstylish, now they changed it to over the top sadistic, just look at the "style" meter. Even if they are both over the top they are completely different. And the combat is as similar as a 4kids dub to the original. Also DmC doesn't even have the same tone for wisecracks. Compare above to DMC4's Agnus scene. Even flock off feather face is more entertaining then yelling fuck you back and forth.

Oh and not to mention how Tameem has been treating the old fans like saying how he doesn't care what they think and how they secretly want to like it might have something to do with it as well.

 

[DigitalSushi]

If Ninja Theory add in a Dark Slayer style I'll be happy.

So far I'm rather optimistic about this reboot, but this new Dante looks even more thuggish than "classic" Dante, which I don't like. Give me an elegant playstyle like Virgil's Dark Slayer and I'll be happy.

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So much more stylish than Dante.

I think we've already had this conversation, but Virgil's Dark Slayer was so much more elegant than anything Dante could do, in DMC4 dante could Slayer but it was no where near as advanced as what the Virgil form was, and Dante's version was rather thuggish in comparrisson.

Dark Slayer is like Royal Guard and Trickster had a child, and they nurtured it, and it got in everyone's fucking face while channelling Jet Li.

So please Ninja Theory, Dark Slayer style, proper Dark Slayer... in the DMC3 focused style of how it acts and you've got my money, fuck I'll buy 3 copies of the game if I get Slayer cancelling and teleporting all over the place.

 

[Daystar Clarion]

If Ninja Theory add in a Dark Slayer style I'll be happy.

So far I'm rather optimistic about this reboot, but this new Dante looks even more thuggish than "classic" Dante, which I don't like. Give me an elegant playstyle like Virgil's Dark Slayer and I'll be happy.

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So much more stylish than Dante.

I think we've already had this conversation, but Virgil's Dark Slayer was so much more elegant than anything Dante could do, in DMC4 dante could Slayer but it was no where near as advanced as what the Virgil form was, and Dante's version was rather thuggish in comparrisson.

Dark Slayer is like Royal Guard and Trickster had a child, and they nurtured it, and it got in everyone's fucking face while channelling Jet Li.

So please Ninja Theory, Dark Slayer style, proper Dark Slayer... in the DMC3 focused style of how it acts and you've got my money, fuck I'll buy 3 copies of the game if I get Slayer cancelling and teleporting all over the place.

That's because Vergil is just better than Dante in every way.

We need a Vergil game.

 

[mrhappy1489]

The new Dante looks like my asshat ex boyfriend.

I don't like his stupid face. *pout*

Also there is creepy developer self insertion to be considered.

I don't care that much to be mad about it. But it's still pretty funny.

Sweet christ, that's the developer, I honestly thought it was John Cusack. The world is a small place to be sure!

 

[Gorilla Gunk]

Because most fans are irrational, self-centered, afraid of any sort of change.

The new game looks interesting and I love the fact that the developers have all but given up on pleasing the old fans and are just making the game they want to make.

 

[DoPo]

Dont goths typically wear black, black leather, dye thier hair black and spend 2 hours a day applying black eyeliner? Or did something change with goths while i wasnt looking?

I'm sure they still do, I don't really follow goths/scene kids that closely, but I doubt very many people look at Dante and think "what a prep/AV nerd/etc"

So you're saying (old) Dante is generally considered a goth because people wouldn't recognise his particular style of not goth? Wait, I'm confused. Does this mean that Vergil is goth, too? I don't think I can name his influence of clothing and style, so he must be goth?

Because they changed his hair! How stupid is that? Don't you people change your hairdress over time, or you always look the same? Considering this is a prequel I don't really see what the problem is.

It is a reboot, not connected with the rest of the series. And am I missing something or did they make new Dante the same as before sans the new look? Because I remember he was different in other respects, such as personality, style, etc. In fact, the whole reboot business sort of implies that it's not exactly the same character/story/setting as before. Otherwise, why call it a reboot?

 

[Gorilla Gunk]

The new Dante looks like my asshat ex boyfriend.

I don't like his stupid face. *pout*

Also there is creepy developer self insertion to be considered.

I don't care that much to be mad about it. But it's still pretty funny.

Sweet christ, that's the developer, I honestly thought it was John Cusack. The world is a small place to be sure!

New Dante hasn't looked like that for almost a year by the way.

 

[FangoftheWhiteWolf]

Hmm, never saw that scene before.... that really doesn't paint this new Dante in the same league as the old one. The old Dante never had to swear to put the demons and comrades in their place and it just seems....immature to fling back a fuck you back and forth, not just for Dante but for 1200 year old demon, you would think they would have a better comeback than fuck you. Really it just sounds like bad writing.

 

[Rickolas Walrus]

So you're saying (old) Dante is generally considered a goth because people wouldn't recognise his particular style of not goth? Wait, I'm confused. Does this mean that Vergil is goth, too? I don't think I can name his influence of clothing and style, so he must be goth?

If old Dante HAD to be related to a culture/group/whatever of people, he looks more goth than anything else is what I'm getting at

But either way, it's stupid that people get so up in arms about a damn character design. I'm not saying you have to like the redesign, but don't condemn the entire game for it

 

[rob_simple]

From what I've seen, the only hate for this game comes from fanboys whining that Capcom isn't serving them up another dish of pretty much the exact same game they've been only slightly altering for about ten years.

Only in the video game industry could people protest a move that takes a series in a new and interesting direction, instead demanding we be given sequels of the same game over and over until the day we die.

Personally, I think the new DmC looks pretty cool and, as ever, I'm reserving proper judgement until I get a chance to actually play it myself.

 

[FangoftheWhiteWolf]

The new Dante looks like my asshat ex boyfriend.

I don't like his stupid face. *pout*

Also there is creepy developer self insertion to be considered.

I don't care that much to be mad about it. But it's still pretty funny.

Sweet christ, that's the developer, I honestly thought it was John Cusack. The world is a small place to be sure!

New Dante hasn't looked like that for almost a year by the way.

The motion capture and face of the new Dante is done by Tim Philips, this is the best thread of a comparison I could find plus a look at the cast and crew on DmC:-

http://devilmaycry.org/community/threads/dmc-motion-capture-cast-and-crew.10543/

 

[mrhappy1489]

The new Dante looks like my asshat ex boyfriend.

I don't like his stupid face. *pout*

Also there is creepy developer self insertion to be considered.

I don't care that much to be mad about it. But it's still pretty funny.

Sweet christ, that's the developer, I honestly thought it was John Cusack. The world is a small place to be sure!

New Dante hasn't looked like that for almost a year by the way.

People we're ignoring the main aspect, the developer looks like John Cusack. I wonder if any other game devs look like like, other people?

 

[Raziel_Likes_Souls]

My main problem isn't his hair, it's the developer's attitude, or rather Tameem's.

He was rather smug about everything from what I could tell, and he apparently has access to the fan hivemind, what with him saying "Old Dante isn't cool anymore, right, guys?. So let's give him a haircut like me!"

And the gameplay is slower now, because Tameem said they had to make it in Unreal so that the team didn't have to make the game look different from Heavenly Swo- I mean learn a new engine for an entire year. On top of that, it's a lot easier. It's easy to keep enemies into the air, you can pull them up more easily, as well as keep pulling yourself into the air.

Now this new one does have some cool ideas, like the stance switching puzzles, but it still doesn't really seem as fast-paced and difficult like the other games. That, and the whole FUCK YOU and Dante the Demon Killer thing made me cringe. And don't even get me started on the whole demons r guvment thing.

I think it looks pretty good myself. I honestly don't see that much of a difference between the "old" Dante and the "new" one other than the hair color. So I don't know why some people are so up in arms about it

It's like if they "redesigned" PaRappa the Rapper with a blue hat instead of a red one, but left everything else largely unchanged, as it appears to me that they have done with DMC

You know, the funny thing is, in Parappa 2, you can actually get different colored toques.