I quote Linkara: "I AM A MAN!!" and I FUCKING love Fallout. I even bought the Game of the Year edition when it came out and played it all over again.
Poll: Do boys like Fallout 3?
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I'm a dude and I like Fo3. Not as much as NV, but I sure didn't hate it. What is interesting is that it seems to be really popular among my female gamer friends. (My GF, for one, is even more of a Fallout fan than I am.)
I loved Fallout 3. Hell, I like it a lot more than Fallout: New Vegas, and they're basically the same game.
And yes, I am a dude.
And yes, I am a dude.
I liked it, but it wasn't one of my favorite games ever. When it comes to the rpgs I personally prefer swords over guns, but I still enjoyed my time with it.
Um, yeah, I don't understand the question. I'm a boy and I like Fallout 3 (I like New Vegas more but whatever). I'm slightly girly though, so do I not count? Is that the point of this question? I'm so confused! Any masculinity I once had is in question!
What an odd question. Do boys like fallout 3... How young are we talking about exactly? Too young to drink alcohol? Or too young to fight maybe?
I found it a little lacking, but overall pretty good. I never got into new vegas, but I blame the constant crashing on that.
Male, loved every single second of it, really didn't care for Fallout New Bugas, for obvious reasons.
Apart from the fact that male players are still the majority, and Fallout 3 players are no exception to that very basic truth, I believe it not to be so much a question of male/female, but more of focus and dedication, or the lack of it.
I am female, and I finished every (proper) Fallout 1-3 at least twice... my brother, on the other hand, was never able to focus on one game for more than, say, two weeks or so. He's more into driving and FPS and whatever crap gets published on mobile iThings. Tiny Things, Angry Crapshoot and all those superb time-wasters.
Then again, he's somewhat obsessive-compulsive, which, to be honest, can be a good thing depending on how you earn your money - but when it comes to modern games, it can completely cripple, disable and ruin everything.
My first speed run of Fallout 3 (before any expansions) took me a weekend. My brother had died a hundred times in that time, and all he had seen so far was a dozen rather boring and/or deadly locations, because he was scanning the desert like a robot. By the time he eventually stumbled over the actual story/game he had basically already forgotten what it was all about, and he was carrying every single bit of crap there was to pick up. He didn't have a plan, and it showed. The PIP-Boy confused him, and he basically only used it as some sort of thing-detector. Oh! There's a thing! Gotta go check it out!
More generally put, I think what I enjoyed most in all the Fallout games was the story and presentation on one hand, and the incredible amount of personalized gameplay one could get out of them. But since I hailed from role-playing games of old (without computers, yay), I went at computer games very differently, whereas, say, my brother always focused more on the fighting AND collecting (everything), while always being in fear of "missing" something, which, eventually, made him not enjoy the experience very much.
Another prime example would be GTA IV - I finished that game in, say, 8 weekend sessions spread over, what, half a year? I did enjoy that "movie" I somewhat influenced over the stretch of that story. My brother, on the other hand, never finished it... but he had seen every TV Show, dated every girl, responded to every phone call and text message, got drunk several times in just one sitting, and watching him play made me want to jump out the window. It was the most boring, never-ending interactive movie experience ever. It was just plain wrong.
A lot of people seem to enjoy the very modern "on rails" experience of gaming, "choice" obviously being regarded by many as a very, very confusing element. Maybe that is part of what makes "Dragon Age II" so utterly unenjoyable to me. The choice there is, alas, mostly tacked on, a feature, a gadget, an afterthought, no matter how well-promoted. And I don't care much about the various opportunities for fornication. In Fallout 3, you could save someone, murder them or fail saving them or... If the game didn't croak or otherwise get funny, everything had consequences. Did you disarm the bomb? Did you blow up the town? Did you let that other guy live and help him achieve his goals, or did you drop a nuke on him? Did you speak to that one special character or did you minigun him out of his misery? Depending on your decisions and resulting actions, playing Fallout (any of them, really) is a very personal trip.
I am female, and I finished every (proper) Fallout 1-3 at least twice... my brother, on the other hand, was never able to focus on one game for more than, say, two weeks or so. He's more into driving and FPS and whatever crap gets published on mobile iThings. Tiny Things, Angry Crapshoot and all those superb time-wasters.
Then again, he's somewhat obsessive-compulsive, which, to be honest, can be a good thing depending on how you earn your money - but when it comes to modern games, it can completely cripple, disable and ruin everything.
My first speed run of Fallout 3 (before any expansions) took me a weekend. My brother had died a hundred times in that time, and all he had seen so far was a dozen rather boring and/or deadly locations, because he was scanning the desert like a robot. By the time he eventually stumbled over the actual story/game he had basically already forgotten what it was all about, and he was carrying every single bit of crap there was to pick up. He didn't have a plan, and it showed. The PIP-Boy confused him, and he basically only used it as some sort of thing-detector. Oh! There's a thing! Gotta go check it out!
More generally put, I think what I enjoyed most in all the Fallout games was the story and presentation on one hand, and the incredible amount of personalized gameplay one could get out of them. But since I hailed from role-playing games of old (without computers, yay), I went at computer games very differently, whereas, say, my brother always focused more on the fighting AND collecting (everything), while always being in fear of "missing" something, which, eventually, made him not enjoy the experience very much.
Another prime example would be GTA IV - I finished that game in, say, 8 weekend sessions spread over, what, half a year? I did enjoy that "movie" I somewhat influenced over the stretch of that story. My brother, on the other hand, never finished it... but he had seen every TV Show, dated every girl, responded to every phone call and text message, got drunk several times in just one sitting, and watching him play made me want to jump out the window. It was the most boring, never-ending interactive movie experience ever. It was just plain wrong.
A lot of people seem to enjoy the very modern "on rails" experience of gaming, "choice" obviously being regarded by many as a very, very confusing element. Maybe that is part of what makes "Dragon Age II" so utterly unenjoyable to me. The choice there is, alas, mostly tacked on, a feature, a gadget, an afterthought, no matter how well-promoted. And I don't care much about the various opportunities for fornication. In Fallout 3, you could save someone, murder them or fail saving them or... If the game didn't croak or otherwise get funny, everything had consequences. Did you disarm the bomb? Did you blow up the town? Did you let that other guy live and help him achieve his goals, or did you drop a nuke on him? Did you speak to that one special character or did you minigun him out of his misery? Depending on your decisions and resulting actions, playing Fallout (any of them, really) is a very personal trip.
Depends, are we talking straight up 3 or are we talking Vegas?
Three lacked all the charm and 'flavor' of a true fallout game... yes I am a old gamer... but Vegas made up a lot of that missing content.
Three lacked all the charm and 'flavor' of a true fallout game... yes I am a old gamer... but Vegas made up a lot of that missing content.
I'll take it this is tongue in cheek, as Fallout 3 is a very popular game, and the majority of gamers are male. Although there are a lot of Fanboy haters, they generally can't see the game for what it is: a new gameplay style loosely set in the Fallout universe.
As for me, it's my favourite game, so far. I've been playing and modding it for over two years, and currently I'm still gaming it, although it's hard to recognize as Fallout 3, with all the mods I run.
Also, this is very well said, and what she describes is why Fallout 3 stands above other games for me. Not to say that I don't enjoy military shooters (like Flashpoint), but Fallout 3's choices are amazing and deep, for a game, anyhow.
As for me, it's my favourite game, so far. I've been playing and modding it for over two years, and currently I'm still gaming it, although it's hard to recognize as Fallout 3, with all the mods I run.
Also, this is very well said, and what she describes is why Fallout 3 stands above other games for me. Not to say that I don't enjoy military shooters (like Flashpoint), but Fallout 3's choices are amazing and deep, for a game, anyhow.
Headdrivehardscrew said:
And you put the head on the nail (proverbially). This was the entire point of this thread, though I must admit I would have expected a few more people to point out this obviou fact. Kudos to you for being the first to point it out!lettucethesallad said:
Gender may not be a determining factor but it is surely a contributing factor in preferences towards all sorts of things including video games. I'm not arguing that mere possession of male or female genetalia creates these preferences, still less that they are "genetically determined" as so many pop-psychology articles claim but gender does not exist in a cultural vacuum and in most contemporary cultures patterns of behaviour and preferences towards many things are shaped very early on.Gethsemani said:
I have no particular desire to wear lipstick (unless I get really drunk) but when I see my 3 year old niece staring lovingly and in wonder at my sister as she applies lipstick with a handheld mirror at christmas I wouldn't be at all surprised if my niece has a tendency to apply make up, not least because that behaviour will be constantly reinforced throughout her life. Whereas my nephews early fear of spiders has withered away over the years while it is still extremely strong in his mother.
I wouldn't be at all surprised if a game Fallout 3 was more popular among males than females. You don't have to be a biological determinist to think so. That there are some physical differences is undeniable, high levels of testosterone in adolescent males certainly has an effect on behaviour and preferences to some xtent.
So, for me, the threads entitled "Do women like x?" are not necessarily silly, as they are probably started by young males trying to create a theory of the mind for what they see as a seperate species (ie females), this perspective being shaped in part by anecdotal evidence ("my sister loves the Sims but hates Black ops") and cultural reinforcement that there must be "innate" differences (men are from mars women are from venus).
What is "innate" anyway? Much psychology involves searching for the answer to this question. Although some are saying even the terms of the question (nature vs nuture) is misleading and unhelpful. The little bit I know about developmental biology seems to suggest its not "in the genes" as was initially hoped when the genome was mapped and instead genes are only one aspect in the development of an organism. In particular it is very hard to map particular genes or groups of genes to particular types of preferences or behaviour. Theres no "gay gene" or "Shooting game gene" or even "langauge gene" although at least in the case of language there are genes which if absent can make langauge more difficult.
Funnily enough I just got a delivery from amazon this morning "Delusions of Gender - The real science behind sex differences" by Cordelia Fine so I hope to be more enlightened on the subject in the near future.
Personally I adore Fallout 3 although it does make me want to eat sugar puffs and drink Coca Cola.
I think what really annoys me about the 'do girls like?' threads is that it sepearates the women out like they are some sort of different gamer. We aren't we like the exact same games you do. We don't need specialist games that have shopping and ponies. Fair play to people who like that kind of stuff but they shouldnt be called 'games for girls.'
Everyone can enjoy anything.
My little neice has a car garage she asked for and plays with, gender roles are reinforced by parental behaiviour and society and are a complete and utter myth. They just cause complete misery to people who don't conform.
Don't wear makeup?...not making an effort...
Like video games games as a girl? Trying to be cute to impress men...
Like to wear jeans and a hoodie and couldn't give a crap about fashion? Ridiculed...
Men who like MLP:FIM...shunned
It's truly ridiculous. I think it has effected me badly throughout my life as I have always disliked things I am 'supposed' to like.
I think what really annoys me about the 'do girls like?' threads is that it sepearates the women out like they are some sort of different gamer. We aren't we like the exact same games you do. We don't need specialist games that have shopping and ponies. Fair play to people who like that kind of stuff but they shouldnt be called 'games for girls.'
Everyone can enjoy anything.
My little neice has a car garage she asked for and plays with, gender roles are reinforced by parental behaiviour and society and are a complete and utter myth. They just cause complete misery to people who don't conform.
Don't wear makeup?...not making an effort...
Like video games games as a girl? Trying to be cute to impress men...
Like to wear jeans and a hoodie and couldn't give a crap about fashion? Ridiculed...
Men who like MLP:FIM...shunned
It's truly ridiculous. I think it has effected me badly throughout my life as I have always disliked things I am 'supposed' to like.