Poll: Do people even WANT sex in their video games?

[SweetShark]

Only if it's interactive.

Do you want to suggest you one with Voice Commands?

 

[CritialGaming]

Only if it's interactive.

Do you want to suggest you one with Voice Commands?

OR VR!!!! YEAH VR sex games! 100% perfect!

In all seriousness though I would like to ask everyone here a question.

Would you rather have sex in your video games with a narrative and contextual purpose. Or fan service with no purpose? I.E. skimpy female outfits that make no sense, or upskirt and tit camera angles for no reason other than to show it.

Frankly this whole thread kind of highlights the immaturity of the gaming audience as a whole because we don't have the maturity to handle nudity and sex in video games without some kind of argument about it. Sex is sex, be grown up about it. If you don't like it you can either play games that don't feature it, or simply move past the scene with little more than an eyeroll. The conservative prudish views upon sex, just scream at the immaturity to handle such things. If you are a high functioning adult you should be mature enough to handle such things in your media, or if you aren't, then you should be a responsible enough adult to not purchase media with material you disagree with in it.

After all, every video game has this little box on the cover that will tell you about the potentially objectionable content before you even purchase it. If that label contains something you can't handle, be an adult and don't purchase it.

Be Mature, as difficult as some may find that.

 

[Alma Mare]

Was it really pheromones? I always thought it was that little bit of magic that witchers have worked as some sort of aphrodisiac for witches (which explains why Geralt is so popular with them). Triss only seems to react from physical touch, not proximity (which would possibly imply hormones).

Wait, what? No.

Triss has a thing for Geralt because, as childish as it seems, she's envious of Geralts relationship with her bf Yennefer, something she's never had. As for why Geralt would have a thing for Yennefer and other sorceress, it's because they're similarly sterile and long lived in the Witcher setting giving both something to commiserate over. Also he just likes Yennefer, and through her was introduced to a number of other sorceress who regard him as a bit of a novelty.

No magical aphrodisiacs or drugs or anything of the sort.

Actually, yes. In Blood of Elves Triss aknowledges the touch thing when she notices Eskel has it to a greater degree than Geralt. It's not like an instant-death-panties-down-moist-klingon-vulcano touch, but it's definitely there. Jute88 may be right, maybe pheromones wasn't the term used, maybe it was magical in nature. The point remains however, that they have a 24/7 mild aphrodisiac going on, and the results tend to be a lot less awesome than one might think.

We're talking about fictional human beings, not fictional rutting rabbits, so that doesn't rule out what you've written about Triss and Yen. I agree with most of it.

 

[Metalix Knightmare]

and gives those R34 channers too many ideas. And I think we can all agree, those are bad things.

You say that as if anything WOULDN'T give them ideas. There's R34 of The Brave Little Toaster. A game that actually includes sex scenes wouldn't really do much to affect that.

Actually, I take that back. It might actually LESSEN it. I've noticed that the more explicit media out there doesn't tend to get a lot of attention from R34 types.

 

[CritialGaming]

and gives those R34 channers too many ideas. And I think we can all agree, those are bad things.

You say that as if anything WOULDN'T give them ideas. There's R34 of The Brave Little Toaster. A game that actually includes sex scenes wouldn't really do much to affect that.

Actually, I take that back. It might actually LESSEN it..

Overwatch certainly has plenty of R34 and there is no sexuality or even fanservice in that game.

 

[Danbo Jambo]

I've no issue with how it's been handled in games, but I'd actually say that the only 2 games which handles it significantly enough for it to effect the plot & game, and carry the weight it deserves, for me were Dragon Age:Origins and Mass Effect 2.

*Spoilers*
Namely DA:O - where you can get Morigan pregnant and have an alternate ending option, and ME:2, where you can die from sleeping with Morinth.
*End spoilers*

I'm fine with games including it in future, but I would like to see it carry more weight. Let sex, and the even act of flirting etc, cause jelously & upset among companions. Let pregancy scares occur, or stat-damaging STD's occur too. What about that companion you've spent half the game chatting up, have now slept with, and then found out a certain trader or healer in the game has a crush on them and now shuns your business etc.

It often feels far too much like a "reward" for persueing a character. It should feel more natural and come with said natural concequences, both good & bad.

 

[Cold Shiny]

I have never played, nor have I ever seen a game where the sex actually added something meaningful to the game. That should be the only argument right there.

 

[Aerosteam]

Asking the thread's question in general, yes. People want sex in their games. If mods are anything to go by.

As for myself, I don't mind it being present in video games. However, I don't want to SEE the actual sex happening. What benefit does seeing the characters have sex give me? Do I have to know what positions/moves they use? All I need to know is that they had sex. Nothing that important nor is necessary to go into detail about.

 

[Metalix Knightmare]

and gives those R34 channers too many ideas. And I think we can all agree, those are bad things.

You say that as if anything WOULDN'T give them ideas. There's R34 of The Brave Little Toaster. A game that actually includes sex scenes wouldn't really do much to affect that.

Actually, I take that back. It might actually LESSEN it..

Overwatch certainly has plenty of R34 and there is no sexuality or even fanservice in that game.

I'd argue about the fanservice due to the spandex Widowmaker, Mercy, D.Va, and Tracer wear, alongside Symmetra's leg exposure, but by and large it's pretty justifiable. (No, really. Spandex is actually very easy to move around in, and due to it clinging to you is very hard to actually snag on things. Try doing acrobatics or good stretches in Blue Jeans. Not easy. No real excuse for Symmetra showing off so much leg though beyond wanting to show she has a touch more class with somewhat fancier form of dress.)

I'd also argue about the sexuality, but that's purely on Widowmaker, and seeing how she's supposed to be a Femme Fatal character, it's again pretty justifiable.

 

[SweetShark]

Only if it's interactive.

Do you want to suggest you one with Voice Commands?

OR VR!!!! YEAH VR sex games! 100% perfect!

In all seriousness though I would like to ask everyone here a question.

Would you rather have sex in your video games with a narrative and contextual purpose. Or fan service with no purpose? I.E. skimpy female outfits that make no sense, or upskirt and tit camera angles for no reason other than to show it.

Frankly this whole thread kind of highlights the immaturity of the gaming audience as a whole because we don't have the maturity to handle nudity and sex in video games without some kind of argument about it. Sex is sex, be grown up about it. If you don't like it you can either play games that don't feature it, or simply move past the scene with little more than an eyeroll. The conservative prudish views upon sex, just scream at the immaturity to handle such things. If you are a high functioning adult you should be mature enough to handle such things in your media, or if you aren't, then you should be a responsible enough adult to not purchase media with material you disagree with in it.

After all, every video game has this little box on the cover that will tell you about the potentially objectionable content before you even purchase it. If that label contains something you can't handle, be an adult and don't purchase it.

Be Mature, as difficult as some may find that.

Google "Wolf girl with you".

About your question:
Both if the developers handle them correctly. It is what the people want if they play a specific game. If the players knows he expect fanserves, then the developers make worth the time the player "waste" in the game.
No problem for me if are good in other words.

 

[JUMBO PALACE]

If it makes sense for the characters and the story I say put in as much sex as you want. A lot of people in this thread are saying that sex should be excluded due to modeling and animation limitations but I really don't see that as an issue. If the writing and story are doing their jobs I'm invested in what happens to these characters enough to ignore the occasional janky animation. I hope I never become so jaded that every little imperfection completely disengages me from the immersion and story.

I thought the scenes in the Witcher 3 with either (or both) Triss and Yen were relatively touching, and CDPRED are smart enough to weave in some slapstick to lighten things up a bit.

 

[aegix drakan_v1legacy]

I prefer "fade to black" or "heavily implied" personally.

Mostly because it allows the mind to fill in the gaps and give you exactly what you want out of the scene.

For example:

The sex scene in the first Mass Effect with Ashley really didn't do much for me. I didn't super like her, personally, so that might add something to it, but I still got nothing from it.

In ME2, with Tali? Oh hell yes, that scene was amazing, and the sex wasn't even shown at all. Just Tali being all flustered and nervous and then when Shepard removes her face mask, her voice goes all soft and choked up at the end of her sentence and she just TIGER POUNCES him and we fade to black. It felt AMAZING and I got way more emotional high out of that then I did with Ashley's more explicit scene.

Besides, most game sex scenes are done incredibly poorly and really take you out of the experience. I'll take a good leadup with enough implication to fill in the blanks as I please over two models bumping awkwardly any day.

Oh, and to the point about "universal shame", I feel like that's more of a societal thing than innate.

 

[CritialGaming]

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About your question:
Both if the developers handle them correctly. It is what the people want if they play a specific game. If the players knows he expect fanserves, then the developers make worth the time the player "waste" in the game.
No problem for me if are good in other words.

Except there is often far more outrage about fanservice than there is about actual sex. Hell they almost didn't even release the latest Dead or Alive Xtreme Volleyball titty game in the west because they were afraid we couldn't handle it. Do you know how many weird nude anime games get made and translated in english that the west never sees? Why? Because the West can't handle it due to a prudish immaturity regarding sex. And it is immaturity, plain an simple.

 

[DarthCoercis]

If it serves a purpose in the story and fits, sure. If it's like.. say.. the sex in that shitty biker game that will go unnamed? No.

 

[hermes]

I don't mind one way or the other. Although I wish there was more, just to shut up the puritans that think cutting a man in half is good entertainment but flashing a breast is taboo, I know most examples will be weirdly acted and animated, and only there to sell fanservice...

Saints Row 4 also had the surprisingly touching Kinzie romance.

Touching? I thought it was purely exploitative. I get that they tried to satirize and trivialize it by making it a simple button prompt for everyone (even a floating robotic ball), but I got stuck with a bug that made me hear the audiolog of Kinzie lamenting that her one true love (Oleg) died with everyone else on earth that reminded me that that scene was just wrong...

I have to give credit to Mass Effect 3, though... If you sticked to a single romantic interest throughout the series, she/he would be in bed with you every time you were shown sleeping. Sex was implied, but the simple act of sleeping together was not depicted as an excuse to get naughty (you two are past that), but as a common and almost trivial display of intimacy. It was handled a lot better than 2.

 

[SweetShark]

snip
About your question:
Both if the developers handle them correctly. It is what the people want if they play a specific game. If the players knows he expect fanserves, then the developers make worth the time the player "waste" in the game.
No problem for me if are good in other words.

Except there is often far more outrage about fanservice than there is about actual sex. Hell they almost didn't even release the latest Dead or Alive Xtreme Volleyball titty game in the west because they were afraid we couldn't handle it. Do you know how many weird nude anime games get made and translated in english that the west never sees? Why? Because the West can't handle it due to a prudish immaturity regarding sex. And it is immaturity, plain an simple.

On the other side of the spectrum, I mean Japan, they fear the sight of vaginas and dicks even if ALL THE BEINGS IN COSMOS knows what they are looking at.
But hey, at least now that a developer released "Lady in Binds" on Steam uncensored, things get better.

The important question is: Did you find your Wolf Girl to?

 

[CaitSeith]

Do I have to know what positions/moves they use?

What if you want to try them in real life with your loved one later? Although you probably won't find a reference as complete as Kama Sutra in games; but still, they may give you something interesting to try.

 

[DoPo]

Do I have to know what positions/moves they use?

What if you want to try them in real life with your loved one later? Although you probably won't find a reference as complete as Kama Sutra in games; but still, they may give you something interesting to try.

Hey, what if you have a game that uses Kama Sutra? I imagine it a bit like Tony Hawk's Pro Skater where you you go around and do tricks on a skateboard, only you're not using a skateboard but other people. And no ramps but beds.

 

[Aerosteam]

Do I have to know what positions/moves they use?

What if you want to try them in real life with your loved one later? Although you probably won't find a reference as complete as Kama Sutra in games; but still, they may give you something interesting to try.

Sex knowledge I've gained in games I've played:

Far Cray 3 - the woman murders the man after they finish.
Dragon Age: Origins - it's done while wearing underwear.
Mass Effect 3 - you get nightmares of a burning kid in a forest.

 

[CaitSeith]

What if you want to try them in real life with your loved one later? Although you probably won't find a reference as complete as Kama Sutra in games; but still, they may give you something interesting to try.

Hey, what if you have a game that uses Kama Sutra? I imagine it a bit like Tony Hawk's Pro Skater where you you go around and do tricks on a skateboard, only you're not using a skateboard but other people. And no ramps but beds.

Tricky. I don't think THPS controls and physics would translate well for sex moves. Not sure they would be as satisfying, as the build up on the individual tricks ends too soon to be a single pose. But we don't want it to be too complex. i.e. ragdoll physics like QWOP would be fun, but it probably would kill the mood more often than not.