Poll: Do Robots Have Souls?

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Boom129

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hyperdrachen said:
Ghengis John said:
hyperdrachen said:
The most epic thing about this thread is all the people that said "no robots can't think" Yeah the premise states self-aware, as a premise.

That said, no such thing aa a soul, so... no.
You too have missed the point. Bravo.
What point did I miss? Alot of people seem to be answering a diffrent more relevant question about how we should treat sentient beings regardless of origin. But that question isn't exactly in the OP.

Question set up it's premise, asked if the robot has a soul. States the opinion that origin should not be the ends by which we judge living beings. I agree with the point of respect of sentient life, see no relevance to handing this new being the "soul" sticker. If soul is a placeholder for deserves the same treatement as a human then it is incredibly obtuse because the state of being alive and concience is not a noun, it's a verb so calling that "a soul" is going to lead to some clumsy imprecise language.

The soul doesn't exist in modern gold-standard physics, or biology. It remains in many religions, or spiritual(non-diety) beliefs. But not all these groups define the soul the same way so it's impossible to really answer this question with any fidelity.
to clarify
the point isn't "is there such a thing as a soul" it's more about robots having what a "soul" implies, namely, sapience.
 

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Soylent Bacon said:
The scientists can only program the human-like responses, making the robot only appear to have a soul. Any sense of right and wrong is only programmed into the robot, so it never truly had the freedom of thought to truly be making its own decisions. Its decisions are based on its designer's morals.

It does not actually feel emotion and it can't really think for itself, so it doesn't have a soul. If a robot somehow fit your description and genuinely felt these emotions internally as well as externally, and formed its own ideas of right, wrong, love, etc, it would have a soul, but such a robot can only exist in fiction. We humans can never program what makes us human into a creation of our own.

edit: also, in the spiritual sense, I don't think any religion involves a deity blessing us with the ability to create souls by any means other than childbirth, so it also doesn't make sense in the simple way some people in this thread seem to be considering the word "soul," I guess as just a shiny ball of love, instead of the concept of the abstract internal features that make us human.
A fair point, however we must remember that functions like learning and emotion, while seemingly esoteric now, are not immaterial aspects of life. They could hypothetically be replicated by simply programming the robot's thought processes in a way that resembles the human mind. Hell, a year or two ago a robot was created that could figure out the most efficient way to grab a bottle simply through trail and error, this loop of stimuli and response is he learning process at its most basic level. And while human learning is more complex, it still functions on the same basic principle.
 

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Lexodus said:
Forget Negima, what about the Geth?
ehhhh... hard to say.
they certainly are sapient, however the lack of emotion makes me hesitant to say for sure
 

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No. And obviously there's no need to state "I think..." because it's implied; I wrote this post, it's me opinion.
Because created life (that's what even a fully sentient AI would be) cannot receive what is only God's to give.
 

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Jark212 said:
No, I do not believe robots do not have souls. Show me a truly self-aware robot or AI and we'll talk...
and how could someone do that (show you that it has self-awareness), even if it really was self-aware?
 

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I will frame my response in the form of a quotation.

Roy Batty said:
"I've seen things you people wouldn't believe. Attack ships on fire off the shoulder of Orion. I watched C-beams glitter in the dark near the Tannhauser gate. All those moments will be lost in time, like tears in rain."
Those were the last words of Roy Batty, android, replicant, and philosopher.

Do robots have souls? Yes.

Now I shall go weep softly at the tragedy of it all.
 

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WARNING! The following spoiler contains many words! If you don't like words or opinion then you should not be reading this current sentence!
In the concept that humans have souls (Yet to be proven or dis-proven), then I'd have to say yes. However what defines a 'soul' would have to be 'Self Awareness'. Self awareness is something that all living creatures have, we 'know' that we're alive, and we're able to make independent decisions and have our own ideas.

In those regards if it were to someday occur that humans created a A.I. with self awareness, you could say that Yes they do have 'souls'. However it would also occur that if such a thing was possible, then would that not make humans the equal of god in a similar way? (The concept that humans created life in A.I. and gave it a soul of it's own. On a religious level, you could also say that it is almost a gift from god to humans that we'd find a way to breath life into creations of our own and which we would need to become responsible for).

There would however be some difficulty determining whether or not A.I. would be considered to be as important as humans. Because the idea is that even though both are equals in every way from self awareness to self preservation, it also raises the question of whether or not a flesh and blood creature is more important than a metal and circuit one. While it is a whole separate discussion on value of life, I'd personally have to say that 'Anything' with a developed mind that gives it the same characteristics of a living organism such as humans should be allowed to be valued as equal. Pets for example are less intelligent and still they retain most things such as emotion or self preservation as humans, and most pet owners would say that they value the pet's life. So the same could be roughly applied to A.I. as if every Robot or Android is a separate or individual A.I. and not part of a collective, then that'd make them irreplaceable in the retrospect that they are a unique individual.
 

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Cant see why robots cant have a soul. we are their creator. we just need to work out how to make souls.

Maybe we can make them caprica style souls where you get backed up to a online heaven.
 

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_Janny_ said:
After reading the Foundation series, I'd have to say that yes, yes they do. I'd love to have robots as friends and everything. It kind of reminds me of that Futurama quote:

Bender: You'd really want a robot as a friend?
Fry: Sure, ever since I was 6.
This.

GiantRaven said:
If a robot is capable of independent thought, emotional feeling and distinctive personality then I don't see why the hell not.

Would anybody say that C-360 and R2-D2 didn't have souls? I feel that they do.
Also This.

In Short: If, the individual in question develops the capacity for Logic, Reasoning, Emotion, Free will, Self Awareness, and some other attributes which I have most likely neglected to mention, Then yes, I do believe the individual in question has a Soul.