Poll: Do you believe humans are apes?

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Jonabob87

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HG131 said:
The Austin said:
reggaerae said:
You are a moron. You are not in the Dark Ages anymore, you are now the weak minority, it is time to wake up and smell the evidence.
Uh, I think YOU need to wake up.


See that chart? Thats a chart representing the percentage of the world that is religious.
Chances are, quite a few of those people DON'T believe in evolution.

And guess what? Just because you have studied Biology doesn't give you the right to be a jackass.
05. Lots of people have seen the truth and left religion since then. Atheism is more popular than ever.
Indeed, atheism is popular and kids love to jump on a bandwagon...
 

diasravenguard

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TK421 said:
No, no, a thousand times no!! No. I find it immensely insulting to be classified with some animal. Humans are humans, not apes.
So are you with my move to classify humans as the great macro-virus?

Or are ya loony and want to be considered a plant?
 

diasravenguard

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Jonabob87 said:
HG131 said:
The Austin said:
reggaerae said:
You are a moron. You are not in the Dark Ages anymore, you are now the weak minority, it is time to wake up and smell the evidence.
Uh, I think YOU need to wake up.


See that chart? Thats a chart representing the percentage of the world that is religious.
Chances are, quite a few of those people DON'T believe in evolution.

And guess what? Just because you have studied Biology doesn't give you the right to be a jackass.
05. Lots of people have seen the truth and left religion since then. Atheism is more popular than ever.
Indeed, atheism is popular and kids love to jump on a bandwagon...
Or out of a burning house... Either way atheist is increasing in following. I would assume this is due to the logical thought process and education.

also nonreligionists and nonspiritualists are generally classified as atheist.
 

Circleseer

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Jarrid said:
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Skullkid4187 said:
No, it's impossible. There are disincentive differences that separate us completely
Are you sure that's the word you wanted to use?
dis·in·cen·tive (dsn-sntv)
n.
Something that prevents or discourages action; a deterrent.
Whoa grammar Gestapo is on my tail again
Don't give me that, whelp. I was pointing out that you managed to misspell your way into an entirely different word because it amused me, but if you are going to be a little shit about it, I have better things to do.


Seriously? That's a rather cocky attitude, regardless of who you are.
 
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TK421 said:
No, no, a thousand times no!! No. I find it immensely insulting to be classified with some animal. Humans are humans, not apes.
Why is it insulting to be classified with an animal?

Why aren't humans apes?
 

The Austin

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HG131 said:
The Austin said:
reggaerae said:
You are a moron. You are not in the Dark Ages anymore, you are now the weak minority, it is time to wake up and smell the evidence.
Uh, I think YOU need to wake up.


See that chart? Thats a chart representing the percentage of the world that is religious.
Chances are, quite a few of those people DON'T believe in evolution.

And guess what? Just because you have studied Biology doesn't give you the right to be a jackass.
05. Lots of people have seen the truth and left religion since then. Atheism is more popular than ever.
HG131 said:
The Austin said:
reggaerae said:
You are a moron. You are not in the Dark Ages anymore, you are now the weak minority, it is time to wake up and smell the evidence.
Uh, I think YOU need to wake up.


See that chart? Thats a chart representing the percentage of the world that is religious.
Chances are, quite a few of those people DON'T believe in evolution.

And guess what? Just because you have studied Biology doesn't give you the right to be a jackass.
05. Lots of people have seen the truth and left religion since then. Atheism is more popular than ever.
I have several points for debate:

1.) This was not about the popularity of atheism, this was about this guy not being a jackass.

2.) 5 years isn't going to shift the chart, you know that, I know that, and everyone with half a brain knows that.

3.) Don't you dare spread that "saw the truth" bullshit to me. I'm allowed to believe what I want, and you are too, but when you start to claim that your way is better than mine, I get pissed.
 

Dark Knifer

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I don't think we came from apes, because evolution says that creatures evolve to cope with their circumstances and their environment. What kind of environment would be needed for an ape to need emotions, language and everything else that makes us people? This question has had me stumped for a while.
 

Enigma6667

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I honestly don't really see why not. For one thing, it makes sense, humans and primates have plenty of similarities, and it has been somewhat scientifically proven. So in the technical sense, we are apes and/or evolved from apes.
 

Jonabob87

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diasravenguard said:
Jonabob87 said:
HG131 said:
The Austin said:
reggaerae said:
You are a moron. You are not in the Dark Ages anymore, you are now the weak minority, it is time to wake up and smell the evidence.
Uh, I think YOU need to wake up.


See that chart? Thats a chart representing the percentage of the world that is religious.
Chances are, quite a few of those people DON'T believe in evolution.

And guess what? Just because you have studied Biology doesn't give you the right to be a jackass.
05. Lots of people have seen the truth and left religion since then. Atheism is more popular than ever.
Indeed, atheism is popular and kids love to jump on a bandwagon...
Or out of a burning house... Either way atheist is increasing in following. I would assume this is due to the logical thought process and education.
I don't know about that, I'm fairly educated and love logical thought. I'm not one of your stereotypical American Christians who is terrified of ever seeing anything vaguely unchristian and think it's my right to throw my faith in your face. I'm one of those Scottish, Godfearing, moralistic Christians who's sick of being told he's a retard because he doesn't fit in with the mold. Maybe atheism vs christianity is an issue in America still. However, in the UK secularism has managed to slaughter almost every religions liberties except Islam, and everyone is going for the throat of Christianity, so forgive me if I'm a little tense on the issue at hand.

Maybe I shoukd've just gone to bed and not posted here...it is 3:23am after all.
 

diasravenguard

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I'll reply later gotta get back home through a storm...

least to try to get it back on track

Ape is a classification
human is a species
 

The Austin

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Eukaryote said:
The Austin said:
reggaerae said:
You are a moron. You are not in the Dark Ages anymore, you are now the weak minority, it is time to wake up and smell the evidence.
Uh, I think YOU need to wake up.


See that chart? Thats a chart representing the percentage of the world that is religious.
Chances are, quite a few of those people DON'T believe in evolution.

And guess what? Just because you have studied Biology doesn't give you the right to be a jackass.
It does however make him responsible to fight science ignorance.

Also, just because a lot of people believe or do not believe in something does not make it right.
As I said before, my post had nothing to do with the existence of Evolution, it simply had to do with this guy not being a dick.
 

Circleseer

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Dark Knifer said:
I don't think we came from apes, because evolution says that creatures evolve to cope with their circumstances and their environment. What kind of environment would be needed for an ape to need emotions, language and everything else that makes us people? This question has had me stumped for a while.
That, and random mutations. It is very handy for a hunter-gatherer race to be able to communicate on a high level. Emotions are like instincts, jealousy, anger, fear, these help survival.

Those with better communication skills would probably find partners more easily, and be more effective in all their group-actions. Once language was there, it should've been easy to improve.



Ever ran a random-letter generator that only saves actual words? Look at it like that. When you run thousands of them at the same time, you'd be amazed how many intelligeble words you'd end up with.



I can't seem to get to bed -_-

I should really go now.
 

diasravenguard

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Jonabob87 said:
I don't know about that, I'm fairly educated and love logical thought. I'm not one of your stereotypical American Christians who is terrified of ever seeing anything vaguely unchristian and think it's my right to throw my faith in your face. I'm one of those Scottish, Godfearing, moralistic Christians who's sick of being told he's a retard because he doesn't fit in with the mold. Maybe atheism vs christianity is an issue in America still. However, in the UK secularism has managed to slaughter almost every religions liberties except Islam, and everyone is going for the throat of Christianity, so forgive me if I'm a little tense on the issue at hand.

Maybe I shoukd've just gone to bed and not posted here...it is 3:23am after all.
I hope you sleep well and I wasn't saying it's right or wrong just saying that atheism is gaining ground probably due to logical thought processes and education (both positive and negative with both side doing fouls)

In the US the big thing is christians see atheists as having horns. I'll leave my beliefs to myself and just say there isnt much sense in that one I've seen a guy say it (with evangelicals around no less) and had them all gasp and act like he was Lucifer himself!
 

Czargent Sane

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I actually didnt know there was a lot of debate over this. people seem to attach illogical arguments to religion as a way of taking validity away from it.
 

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The Austin said:
Eukaryote said:
The Austin said:
reggaerae said:
You are a moron. You are not in the Dark Ages anymore, you are now the weak minority, it is time to wake up and smell the evidence.
Uh, I think YOU need to wake up.


See that chart? Thats a chart representing the percentage of the world that is religious.
Chances are, quite a few of those people DON'T believe in evolution.

And guess what? Just because you have studied Biology doesn't give you the right to be a jackass.
It does however make him responsible to fight science ignorance.

Also, just because a lot of people believe or do not believe in something does not make it right.
As I said before, my post had nothing to do with the existence of Evolution, it simply had to do with this guy not being a dick.
A few things, this chart is out of date, I don't know how the data was collected, if it was a simple random sample or a world wide poll, and if it was, they missed at least someone cause nobody asked me.

If it was a chart of what someone was BORN into, than odds are this chart is inaccurate. Children have simple faith, which doesn't stand up well to science, life, and humanity in general. Someone can be born catholic but become aesthetic by age 16. Also, the chart does not include agnostics, which means that they forced someone to pick either atheism or a religion, which skews results. Someone who doubts their religion, but still believes in something, will probably side with the religion over atheism.

As for the actual poll, I believe we are related to apes, but no, we are not apes. If we were apes, we wouldn't be called humans. And yes, I do consider evolution to be true.
 

Jonabob87

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Eukaryote said:
Jonabob87 said:
diasravenguard said:
Jonabob87 said:
HG131 said:
The Austin said:
reggaerae said:
You are a moron. You are not in the Dark Ages anymore, you are now the weak minority, it is time to wake up and smell the evidence.
Uh, I think YOU need to wake up.


See that chart? Thats a chart representing the percentage of the world that is religious.
Chances are, quite a few of those people DON'T believe in evolution.

And guess what? Just because you have studied Biology doesn't give you the right to be a jackass.
05. Lots of people have seen the truth and left religion since then. Atheism is more popular than ever.
Indeed, atheism is popular and kids love to jump on a bandwagon...
Or out of a burning house... Either way atheist is increasing in following. I would assume this is due to the logical thought process and education.
I don't know about that, I'm fairly educated and love logical thought. I'm not one of your stereotypical American Christians who is terrified of ever seeing anything vaguely unchristian and think it's my right to throw my faith in your face. I'm one of those Scottish, Godfearing, moralistic Christians who's sick of being told he's a retard because he doesn't fit in with the mold. Maybe atheism vs christianity is an issue in America still. However, in the UK secularism has managed to slaughter almost every religions liberties except Islam, and everyone is going for the throat of Christianity, so forgive me if I'm a little tense on the issue at hand.

Maybe I shoukd've just gone to bed and not posted here...it is 3:23am after all.
What liberties would those be?
The simple liberty to say "I disagree with homosexuality" without being taken to court, for example.

Or the case of the christian owners of a bed and breakfast being sued by Islamic guests for disagreeing with them over religious matters.

Or how about the freedom to be a Christian, without being instantly being called an idiot? Hell, my Uncle comes over from Saudi Arabia once a year and spends half his time telling me God isn't real. But that's modern Britian for you.

Disclaimer: I don't hate Muslims.