Atheist through and through. I don't believe in a creator, and nor do I think there is a higher power of any sort guiding us. I only think that it's just my gut telling me what to do.
Poll: Do you believe in a higher power?
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Wait, depends. Does it have to be a known religion? Because if not, its Grenth. If so, remind me to mail those Nuclear Warheads to Vatican City. There starting to collect dust.
To those who have never played Guild Wars before. Grenth is the God of Death, Pain, Ice and Judgment. He is the Lord of the underworld. If you don't worship him, you will rot in the Torment for eternity.
Oh, and does Purple Rain count as a deity?
To those who have never played Guild Wars before. Grenth is the God of Death, Pain, Ice and Judgment. He is the Lord of the underworld. If you don't worship him, you will rot in the Torment for eternity.
Oh, and does Purple Rain count as a deity?
I'm a Strong Agnostic/Secular Humanist personally, which means I believe that any higher power is Unknowable, if it does indeed exist, and that it can't be distilled into 10 simple rules. I prefer to believe in humanity, science and reason, since any otherworldly power can't be understood and hence, cannot be relied on and we're better off not letting it run our lives just because we're arrogant enough to think we understand it.
This is, and will always be a question. there is no right or wrong answer and everyone can worship their own God, Goddess, or piece of talking shit if they wish too. Who are we to say that they're wrong? Most major religions have no solid backing and all we have as "proof" are a bunch of stories that, once again, have nothing to fall back on.
In my opinion I am an agnostic, and if that's not an option then color me atheist. The thing is that each religion has its own creation story. When, technically, the theory with the most merit or experience points or value in my eyes is evolution. We have some kind of proof for that and it disproves every creation story there is. Nobody knows the answer and never will, until we die. (If there is an afterlife)
This is an un-arguable subject(in theory). I'm tired of people telling others that they're beliefs are wrong because they can't back up their talk. Why should I spend my life devoted to your religion and living the rest of it in fear if you can't prove you're right?
In my opinion I am an agnostic, and if that's not an option then color me atheist. The thing is that each religion has its own creation story. When, technically, the theory with the most merit or experience points or value in my eyes is evolution. We have some kind of proof for that and it disproves every creation story there is. Nobody knows the answer and never will, until we die. (If there is an afterlife)
This is an un-arguable subject(in theory). I'm tired of people telling others that they're beliefs are wrong because they can't back up their talk. Why should I spend my life devoted to your religion and living the rest of it in fear if you can't prove you're right?
PLEASE don't start flaming over this, but I was a devout Catholic for most of my life. Not long ago, I started thinking about it, and I was frankly offended by what the Church teaches. I saw things that bothered me on a philosophical level, and I decided to give it up.
Alone in the universe? Probably not. Beneath any being? Nope.
Alone in the universe? Probably not. Beneath any being? Nope.
whats really ironic is that many religions preach "free will", yet if you worship a "god" its not really "free will"
im aware that it is your individual "free will" to choose to worship something but your "free will" is severly hampered when you follow certain guidelines that a religion follows, eg. going mosque every friday, going church in sunday, you dont have "free will" per se cause you're following someone else, which in my book falls under mind control, or subjagation, whichever you wanna call it.
as for me it would be stupid to not believe that there could possibly be a higher "power" out there, just as its stupid to think that aliens couldnt exist given how many galaxys and planets undiscovered there are by us. but tbh i couldnt give two shits whether there is a higher "power" or not, that knowledge aint exactly gunna help me when im dead now is it? and regardless of whether i go to "hell" or not(since its subjective)again i will be dead so it makes no difference.
i agree with whoever said earlier that the afterlife was an invention made to cover what people couldnt understand, people fear what they dont understand and us such will enlist other people with the message that you will go to "hell" if you do yadda yadda yadda but if you do yadda yadda yadda you will go to heaven. Bullshite.
i know thats rich coming from me cause i cant prove that there isnt a god, just like anyone who follows religion cant prove that there is a god, i call the bible, quran, whatever, i call them chinese whispers, and a damn well played game of it too. how could someone remember an entire tomb of "knowledge"(and i use that word very very loosely)and keep passing it on through generation after generation without any of the words getting misinterpreted? or better yet not even being conceived, Muhammed coudve been stoned for all we know lol, or intoxicated in some way
/tangent
basically i dont buy it, i believe theres a higher "power" but i dont give a shit and ill be damned if im gunna bow down to some imaginary being that may or may not exist.
ill be taking my "free will" to go please, and a side order of fries with that too lol.
im aware that it is your individual "free will" to choose to worship something but your "free will" is severly hampered when you follow certain guidelines that a religion follows, eg. going mosque every friday, going church in sunday, you dont have "free will" per se cause you're following someone else, which in my book falls under mind control, or subjagation, whichever you wanna call it.
as for me it would be stupid to not believe that there could possibly be a higher "power" out there, just as its stupid to think that aliens couldnt exist given how many galaxys and planets undiscovered there are by us. but tbh i couldnt give two shits whether there is a higher "power" or not, that knowledge aint exactly gunna help me when im dead now is it? and regardless of whether i go to "hell" or not(since its subjective)again i will be dead so it makes no difference.
i agree with whoever said earlier that the afterlife was an invention made to cover what people couldnt understand, people fear what they dont understand and us such will enlist other people with the message that you will go to "hell" if you do yadda yadda yadda but if you do yadda yadda yadda you will go to heaven. Bullshite.
i know thats rich coming from me cause i cant prove that there isnt a god, just like anyone who follows religion cant prove that there is a god, i call the bible, quran, whatever, i call them chinese whispers, and a damn well played game of it too. how could someone remember an entire tomb of "knowledge"(and i use that word very very loosely)and keep passing it on through generation after generation without any of the words getting misinterpreted? or better yet not even being conceived, Muhammed coudve been stoned for all we know lol, or intoxicated in some way
/tangent
basically i dont buy it, i believe theres a higher "power" but i dont give a shit and ill be damned if im gunna bow down to some imaginary being that may or may not exist.
ill be taking my "free will" to go please, and a side order of fries with that too lol.
I was watching a History Channel documentary on the "Bible Code", which has supposedly found predictions of various world events in the Bible. What the code relies on is, taking out letters equidistant from each other and using them to spell out certain prophecies like "Wright Brothers, Airplane, Flight". On the program, people were using these "prophecies" to prove the divinity of the Bible and that God exists. However, it was revealed near the end of the program that when the same technique is applied to the novel, Moby Dick, several prophecies arise as well(one was an omen of Kennedy's assassination).
While the code is more of a statistical anomaly than a divine message, even the proponents of the code must ask themselves: "If this is a message from God, then why couldn't he just plainly get it across without the code. He was able to tell us about how he created the world and how we should follow his laws in detail, so why is he being so cryptic all of a sudden?"
While the code is more of a statistical anomaly than a divine message, even the proponents of the code must ask themselves: "If this is a message from God, then why couldn't he just plainly get it across without the code. He was able to tell us about how he created the world and how we should follow his laws in detail, so why is he being so cryptic all of a sudden?"
Following rules is not surrendering Free will it's making a choice about what you're doing with free will. I believe in God and Jesus, if you want evidence of thier existence look at the world. There are too many things unexplained to dismiss all of them as being created chance. emotions, senses, ideas. none of these can be explained away. why do we laugh at a joke? according to science the communication of a joke should be an arbitrary signal, yet it triggers laughter another action dicatated by science as pointless, you can try to explain it away by saying"laughing exercises the lungs so that's why we do it." If that's the case why don't we laugh all the time when we're dot doing anything else? why do we laugh to different degrees at a joke? why do people laugh differently to different jokes?WlknCntrdiction said:
With that one example I could go on and on but I think i've typed enough already to get my point across.
I beleive in facts. I dont think its a good idea to say "its gotta be god work if it cant be explained".The Potato Lord said:
What I like about science and philosophy is it can be developped further. Science works with knowledge and philosophy works with reason.
Like RAM said, just because it's not explained doesn't mean it's God. Throughout history we've debunked many things that were credited to the Bible simply because the authors didn't know any better. Using religion to hunt for answers to natural phenomenons is a bad idea due to the fact that when it comes to explanations, much of it is a little bit of observation and a whole lot of guesswork mixed in with the occasional dogma. If you want to find out things developed, you can learn a lot more from going out and testing things a la the scientific method than simply writing it off as "God did it".
I am an athiest, and I don't care of other beleive in god, because if they were right after all and die and go to heaven, maybe they can put a good word in for me. but its overly religous people that I hate, truly hate...
Theology/philosophy/ethics/logic/morality! yaay! my pastimes and obsessions. As far as a higher power, my overall beliefs on that are rather flexible and unresolved. As to the :nature: of a higher power, if one does exist, thats what I like to debate. "god = perfect being, perfect being must have perfect flaw?= perfect flaw=perfect evil... perfect evil=devil... perfect evil must have perfect imperfection as well = god = devil = god OMG?" kinda stuff.
I'm a resounding philosopher. Religion means little more than another philosophical viewpoint in life to me. one usually more biased and with harsher consequences when committed to zealotry.
I'm a resounding philosopher. Religion means little more than another philosophical viewpoint in life to me. one usually more biased and with harsher consequences when committed to zealotry.
Lightning when we had no knowledge of static electricity? God did it.John Galt said:
Earthquakes when we had no knowledge of plate tectonics? God did it.
Disease when we had no knowledge of bacteria and viruses? God did it.
'Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic.' - Arthur C. Clarke
I'm not particularly religious, but I refuse to belive that the observable world is the extent of existence. That would be quite the downer, the rain on my parade as it were. The mysteries of this world are what make it interesting, and if I ever know everything I'll have lived too long.
Irish Catholic and proud!
God musta been Irish cause we're the only one who'd think to turn water into wine lol.
God musta been Irish cause we're the only one who'd think to turn water into wine lol.
Unapologetically Christian. Ive never really understood Atheism as it doesnt make sense from a logical point of view (If im wrong we all go to hell, if your wrong then its just you) but people are entitled to their own opinions I suppose and its better to believe something for reasons that you discovered for yourself than because someone else told you to.
For those of you who voted no watch The Melancholy of Haruhi Suzumiya (a fun anime if nothing else). Those of you who have watched this series should already get the joke ^_^.
For those of you who voted no watch The Melancholy of Haruhi Suzumiya (a fun anime if nothing else). Those of you who have watched this series should already get the joke ^_^.