Poll: Do you like Moviebob's material?

[Lunar Templar]

as far as his escapist stuff goes.

what 'change' are you talking about? the 50 most boring things list felt like reading a Big Picture ep, granted, not a very good one but eh, the can't all be 'Yogi Bear's collar' or the LONG awaited 'Found in Translation'.

can't comment on his 'Overtinker' stuff, not seen enough of them.

 

[Chives on top of me]

I remember in one of the Jimquisition videos, he once saw a poll in the threads that he paid attention to in order to get feedback on how he was doing, and considering the recent uproar around Moviebob's "The Most 50 Boring Opinions in Geek Culture" list, I thought that now would be a good time to take stock on Moviebob and the material he puts out.

It's a rather simple question really, do you like the current direction that he is going in? Yes or no? And by that I mean do you really like the style that he has while making his material. Really do you enjoy his material in general?

Not sure what you really mean here. If I take this at face value you seem to be asking if people like the format of his shows or the writing style of his column. The editing, the way Bob talks, the pacing, the font...this would be the "style" thing you mentioned. Unless I, and everyone else, have missed something there seems to be no real change in how Bob presents his material. So I need to ask just what change are we, or you, talking about...?

Or is this just bitching because you don't like his opinion and are seeking validation?

Did I say anything about how I feel about him? No. Then how am I "bitching"

...and neither did you state what the "direction that MovieBob is taking with his material" is...Do you see a change in the style of his videos? Maybe an example would help.

 

[Anti Nudist Cupcake]

I like him, his videos are interesting to me.

 

[Erttheking]

I remember in one of the Jimquisition videos, he once saw a poll in the threads that he paid attention to in order to get feedback on how he was doing, and considering the recent uproar around Moviebob's "The Most 50 Boring Opinions in Geek Culture" list, I thought that now would be a good time to take stock on Moviebob and the material he puts out.

It's a rather simple question really, do you like the current direction that he is going in? Yes or no? And by that I mean do you really like the style that he has while making his material. Really do you enjoy his material in general?

Not sure what you really mean here. If I take this at face value you seem to be asking if people like the format of his shows or the writing style of his column. The editing, the way Bob talks, the pacing, the font...this would be the "style" thing you mentioned. Unless I, and everyone else, have missed something there seems to be no real change in how Bob presents his material. So I need to ask just what change are we, or you, talking about...?

Or is this just bitching because you don't like his opinion and are seeking validation?

Did I say anything about how I feel about him? No. Then how am I "bitching"

...and neither did you state what the "direction that MovieBob is taking with his material" is...Do you see a change in the style of his videos? Maybe an example would help.

Yeah the OP was kinda unclear. I fixed it.

 

[Gennadios]

He knows movies and comics and when he analyzes stuff, he does a great job of it.

His self-righteousness shtick has worn pretty thin a long time ago, which is why I can't read his opinion pieces or watch Game OverThinker anymore, but the stuff he does for the Escapist is still well done and educational.

 

[Verlander]

I enjoy it, don't always agree with what he's saying. Same with all of the videos on here.

 

[Olas]

From what I can tell OP, people have either liked or disliked him from the start, probably a lot of it has to do with whether you agree with him on various topics.

Me, I like him, though I understand why some people might not.

 

[Not Matt]

Yes and the pope is religious............... Oh sorry. I thought we were stating the obvious.

 

[jethroe498]

I honestly love his stuff. "Escape to the movies" is nice enough, if a bit useless with mountains of other movie critics on the internet, but I absolutely love "The Big Picture", I feel that it really brings up important topics, and while I might not fully agree, it certainly makes me aware of issues I normally would be unaware of. Also, comics are weird.

 

[Dethenger]

More entertaining ones, sure, but I wouldn't say better. I think Yahtzee, in a sort of forced reply to Roger Ebert's claim that "video games can never be art," said he wouldn't review movies because he doesn't know fuck-all about them (my words) and he doesn't expect Roger Ebert to know fuck-all about video games.
I'm then led to conclude that him reviewing a movie would probably be a five minute long thing of him pointing out things that bug him and ranting about them, the difference between that and his usual approach being that they'd probably be insignificant things such as the colour of a certain object onscreen as opposed to something about a game that he considered broken.

It's possible. And maybe I completely wrong here so correct me if I am, but I get the sense that neither of these guys have degrees in film and video games (Not that that makes me think any less of their work, don't get me wrong). Plus, film isn't that esoteric like many reviewers make it out to be. So i'm just saying, regardless of that Ebert comment, Yahtzee could probably make more interesting movie reviews.

I think their pedigrees both come simply from having passions rooted in their respective mediums, and learning about them organically. I agree that I don't think any less of their credibility for it--in Yahtzee's case especially I don't know that video games as a medium even have the same sort of schooling that film does (I think James from Extra Credits teaches a class on it, though, so that's not to say the classes aren't there, just that they probably don't have the same presence) and besides, it's not like insight comes from a college (not to say that college can't help). EpicNameBro, Egoraptor, etc. don't have actual "credentials," to my knowledge, but their videos on the subject are still very informative on video game design/ theory.
In any case, I'd agree that Yahtzee has the potential to make fascinating videos about movies, especially if he kept at it.

 

[TheYellowCellPhone]

I don't think I've noticed a new direction...

I do notice that he's struggling to fill in his five minutes of talking. He simply does not have a long enough script for all episodes, and he fills in the time by not even talking about the movie or (in the case of Rise of the Guardians) showing the trailer in its full time, wasting over a minute and a half. There are literary elements that I like that he includes or explains that waste time -- those talks aren't really about the movie, but they fit in with his opinion -- but I can tell he just isn't interested in explaining a movie anymore, unless it is to throw praise at it.

However, he is very clear about his opinion and why he does or doesn't like a movie, he likes the more lowbrow elements in a movie that other reviewers would exclude for the sake of maturity, and I think he explains things very well.

The actual video, I could do without. Recycling the trailer and those same smileys every episode is dull. It's only worthwhile when he shows a clip and explains a literary element in it.

 

[Blunderboy]

I like MovieBob, pretty much always have.

 

[Legion]

I didn't like him at first because he came across as too provocative for the sake of it. I felt that less after seeing some more of his work, and after seeing him on the Escapist Expo videos I find it more easier to understand him now that I have a more human connection (seeing his personality for real and what he looks like, rather than a voice from my speakers).

That said, I still very rarely actually agree with him, although I find some of his videos interesting.

The only real criticisms I'd have of him would apply to a lot of the content on the Escapist. That the current topic is almost treated with the same level of objectivity as the average tabloid's front page.

Yes, I know what a forum is. No, that doesn't make this thread any more worthy of discussion.

The fact that you chose to reply twice in it despite nobody forcing you to read it or reply would beg to differ.

If you don't like a discussion, then you are free to not become involved. It is not your place to tell other people what they can and cannot, or should and should not discuss.

Posting to say that a topic is not worth discussing would come under low content posting seeing as it doesn't actually contribute to it.

 

[malestrithe]

Wow, 60 days since I've seen one of these "Do you like or dislike Movie bob" thread. At one point, they were so regular you can almost set your watch to them. I was wondering when somebody was going to get upset about his opinion of something yet again.

For the record, no I've never been tired of Bob's opinions because I do it right. I never take it personally because I know he's entitled to it as much as I am mine. I listen to his opinion, check how it gauges with mine of the subject and evaluate. If they mesh, they mesh. If they don't, they don't.

If you are sitting there crying because he calls one of your sacred cows a useless and boring argument, you are doing it wrong. The correct answer is saying "Nice to know that he sees no use out of 'Han firing first' argument so I won't bring it up with him."

 

[lord.jeff]

I find him good when he's not putting forth his opinion on the game/movie community he comes off as insulting to many times and seems to have no respect for deferring opinions, he also contradicts himself every so often but he is very knowledgeable on geek history and is fairly well spoken so any time he does comics are weird are any other sum up of movie/tv/comics he is a good watch.

 

[malestrithe]

No. He used to be a lot more critical of movies. Now everything is awesome and I can't trust his opinion anymore. He's losing his credibility and there's so few "critics" that have any credibility already.

In the last 16 episodes, he liked 5 movies, hated 5 and was in the middle on 6 of them. I am not detecting a loss of "credibility" in that output.

Do you see him lose credibility simply because his opinion of product no longer gels with yours? That's not a loss of credibility. That's merely his opinions not matching up with yours.

 

[shteev]

I didn't like the '50 most boring' article to the point where I was moved to write negative feedback on it, but most of the time I find Moviebob really interesting, especially when he's telling me that SOMETHING.... IS... WEIRD! I love The Big Picture especially, but Intermission and Escape are usually pretty great too.

 

[FallenMessiah88]

I haven't watched any of his videos in like 8 months, so I can't really say anything about this supposed "new direction", but I will say that the reason I stopped following him was because he had simply lost his appeal. Most of all I couldn't stand his attitude, mostly when it came to things/people he didn't like and I don't think that will change any time soon.

 

[Ekit]

I don't really see any difference betweeen MovieBob now and Moviebob a year ago. He's always had strong opinions, a big ego and sometimes insightful observations on nerd culture.

I didn't even know that there has been an uproar against his laatest column, but maybe that's because I don't frequent this site as much as I used to.

 

[tautologico]

Yes, I like what he does. I often disagree with his opinions (Metroid Other M for instance), but I find what he does interesting and insightful, and when he talks about what he knows, it's really good. I feel confident enough in my tastes that I don't have a problem watching someone vocally advocating an opinion I don't agree with, I think people are just too sensitive to different opinions.

Yes, he sometimes gets stuck repeating quips about specific things (like The Expendables, the ME3 ending, etc), but that's mostly ok.