No... Its not. I don't smoke, but the smoke is usually 150-190 degrees by the time you inhale it, cooler if you're using a bong or hookah.Ham_authority95 said:No never did. I don't see why it isn't painful to people.
I mean,the smoke is over a thousand degrees, and its going into your lungs.won't that hurt after a while?
aah, that would make some senseVicunaBlue said:If you let the nicotine get out of your system before you do another one, you cant get addicted. At least thats what my stoner friends say.
yes!Parallel Streaks said:....it's a very precise art, rolling.
The fuck has if I have a kid got to do with anything?Acrisius said:Do you have a kid?D4zZ said:Not the point, if my kid took my things and flushed them, whatever it was, his privacy and possessions are not safe for at least the next month. Same as I'd expect if I did something similar, you don't just go through peoples things, let alone to throw them away.Acrisius said:I somehow doubt HIS stuff are actually of a 100% destructive nature, not just to himself, but to his whole family, as is the case with smokes.D4zZ said:Good luck with that... I hope they flush your stuff because of it.Acrisius said:If I were you, I'd take your parents smokes and flush them down the toilet, and continue to do so until they acknowledged that they are the ones with a destructive habit and that if they are responsible parents, they won't make you suffer for their own lack of judgment.
Fine, change the "throw away" part to just "take away" and you have an extremely common situation in a family. If your kids don't do things like they should you can take it away from them. Example, you kid neglects his homework and school in favor of playing World of Warcrap, despite numerous conversations about how much he should be playing and under what conditions, you can take it away as a very justified and common method of setting him straight.
So, if this kid's parents can't take proper responsibility with their smoking, despite numerous talks about it and proven facts that they are doing something wrong, or at least doing it the wrong way, I definitely think it's justifiable to take away their cigarettes.
With great freedom, comes great responsibility.
You're just repeating yourself.Acrisius said:I think it has plenty to do with it, since you obviously don't know shit about parenting.D4zZ said:The fuck has if I have a kid got to do with anything?Acrisius said:Do you have a kid?D4zZ said:Not the point, if my kid took my things and flushed them, whatever it was, his privacy and possessions are not safe for at least the next month. Same as I'd expect if I did something similar, you don't just go through peoples things, let alone to throw them away.Acrisius said:I somehow doubt HIS stuff are actually of a 100% destructive nature, not just to himself, but to his whole family, as is the case with smokes.D4zZ said:Good luck with that... I hope they flush your stuff because of it.Acrisius said:If I were you, I'd take your parents smokes and flush them down the toilet, and continue to do so until they acknowledged that they are the ones with a destructive habit and that if they are responsible parents, they won't make you suffer for their own lack of judgment.
Fine, change the "throw away" part to just "take away" and you have an extremely common situation in a family. If your kids don't do things like they should you can take it away from them. Example, you kid neglects his homework and school in favor of playing World of Warcrap, despite numerous conversations about how much he should be playing and under what conditions, you can take it away as a very justified and common method of setting him straight.
So, if this kid's parents can't take proper responsibility with their smoking, despite numerous talks about it and proven facts that they are doing something wrong, or at least doing it the wrong way, I definitely think it's justifiable to take away their cigarettes.
With great freedom, comes great responsibility.
If the parents thought the same as you, there wouldn't be a a kerfuffle about the smoking indoors.
I however don't think like you and doubt the parents do either, therefore he should expect to get punished by them if he tries to do anything with their possessions.
You can tell him he has the morale high ground and should do it all you want, they aren't instantly going to rehabilitate themselves the second he puts them somewhere, he is going to get hit.
(Or whatever punishment is for their household, digging through the toilet to fetch them out, to put them in the bin, would be a start in mine. Teach him about proper waste disposal whilst I'm giving the little thief a lesson.)
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Anyway, this isn't a silly argument about who's right or not. They are actually affecting his well-being negatively, while setting a bad example about how you should respect other people. It's as simple as that. I admit I can't tell him what he should or shouldn't do, but I personally don't respect authority if it missuses its powers, i.e, if parents act like dicks, I'm a dick right back.
While I most certainly respect the whole "private possessions" thing and shit like that, there is a point where you can interfere, and that's in the case of destructive behavior.
Like I said, "With great freedom, comes great responsibility". His parents are free to do whatever they damn well please, as long as it is legal, but they have a responsibility to put the kids needs and well-being before their own, especially when the solution is so damn simple. Just don't smoke indoors when there are people living under the same roof who have great problems with it.
I added three lines, you went off on a rant about my parenting skills, I responded with a huge post as well so you wouldn't seem so silly. Be thankful.Acrisius said:Then you're just repeating what he already said a long time ago and effectively added nothing at all to this discussion but a pointless argument.D4zZ said:You're just repeating yourself.
I understood you think it's wrong a few posts ago.
Doesn't stop the fact the kid will be punished because his parents obviously don't see a problem with it, which is what I have been saying.
Why change what makes you billions upon billions of dollars? Honestly the smoking companys knew EXACTLY what they were giving you, they just dont care as long as at the end of the day you buy cigarettes.Cmwissy said:Forgive me if I'm wrong but the thing in cigarettes that kills you is not the bit that gets you addicted, so why can't today's crack scientists find something to replace the killing part?
That's the way I'd like to be with smoking. I've tried it but I end up getting addicted again - it's a nice idea but in the end it never works (for me). I actually enjoy it and not only because I am addicted, I really do like the feeling and taste - always have.Ryuk2 said:On occasions.
I was addicted about two years ago, but i just stopped at one day. After months of not smoking i started to smoke rarely. Sometimes i smoke once in month, once a week or sometimes every day. Depends on my mood.
Reducto ad absurdum is a very silly way to conduct an argument. I'm just saying that "Science" is often influenced by popular opinion. Find me an unbiased scientific test that proves there are no benefits to smoking and I'll be more likely to move with that PoV.Acrisius said:You're right! Science is witchcraft! Addictions don't at all trick your mind! Hey, addictions don't even exist! It's all a conspiracy from the anti-tobacco companies to make people...hey, wait a minute, there's no such thing as "anti-tobacco" companies...
Unlike inhaling carbon monoxide, eating mono-sodium glutamate, smelling tri-chloro ethane, receiving microwave/ultraviolet radiation, drinking ethanol/ethanoic acid, taking lung fulls of smoke every barbecue (more poisonous that second hand smoke), having ink across your hands, piercing your body with fake gold, ingesting sucrose/salt/caffeine, getting ether...Acrisius said:Dude, you're inhaling smoke. SMOKE!