Poll: Do You Still Like ZP?

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Rack

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No, it was a good schtick but I think he said most of everything everything he had to on the subject in the first dozen videos or so. Now he's just repeating himself. That seems to be what the public want though so I barely watch them any more. Why would he change the formula?
 

JediMB

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Gorilla Gunk said:
Flip-flopping on his opinion of Doom 3
...Seeing a game in a new light after 8 years of different experiences is "flip-flopping" now?

Watering down the term much?
 

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felbot said:
this is odd the poll mostly loves him but the comments dislike him, weird.
Not really. There's not much to discuss unless you have a problem, so people who are fine with ZP tend to just answer the poll and leave.

I still enjoy ZP, for the record, but I have little to say as to why. He's always had lazy/bad episodes, so that's not new, some of his jokes aren't funny, but that's not new.
 

Guffe

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Yeah still enjoy it.
I think he is still as good as ever and I enjoy the puns and information on games he gives, even if they might be a bit blurr at times.
I noticed he has started to have a 5 second summary at the end in some videos were he actually sais if he thinks it's worthwile getting or not.
But might just be me...
 

NeutralDrow

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Honestly, I just watched a dozen or so of his recent videos after not watching any for a few months, and I'm wondering why I stopped. Yes, I do still like ZP.
 

IamLEAM1983

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They're enjoyable, seeing as I don't come to Yahtzee expecting giant bucketfuls of ha-ha oh-my-sides humour. I pop by Mister Croshaw's weekly dose of verbal acid reflux because he's an honest reviewer underneath all the funny sarcasm.
 

Don't taze me bro

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I can't say I've watched any recently, but I do enjoy his reviews when I do watch them. I'm probably like many others that first came to The Escapist due to his videos, but I find myself watching The Jimquisition and The Big Picture more frequently now.
 

Sandjube

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I agree with the guy who made the spicy food simile. It's still awesome but after...how many episodes is at now? Like a hundred? It doesn't hit like it used to.
 

Gameguy20100

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They dont make me laugh like they used to in fact i think yatzhee has turned me into a cynical git just like him and i swear this is true i cant play a game anymore without pointing out flaws that i used to not care about
 
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I still enjoy them. The trouble is it's not always easy know if he likes a game as it's 90% critique/criticism. But when he hates or loves a game you know about it.

Kyle Donovan said:
If he had more valid and real complaints then that would justify his opinions. Also, his view on Multiplayer games is all over the place. His extreme dislike for Borderlands could be justified if he actually explained why MP is bad for a game that has single player in it.
The multiplayer aspect has been mentioned and clarified more than once. The general gist is quite simply that any game should stand up and sell itself on its single player alone. That's been the same for always. If a game compromises on story, difficulty, level design or gameplay because it had to accommodate or worse, was scaled specifically for, multiplayer, then it's a negative. And I actually agree on this point.
 
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I forgot to mention though, I hate the intro/outro music. Really hate it, always have since it was introduced. I have to hit play/pause rapidly then navigate to 16s precisely to avoid it, and be right on the ball when it ends to stop it immediately.

I miss when he did different and relevant songs. BioShock with the Beatles song, whatever warfare game with the Team America theme, bloody brilliant.
 

Nazulu

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I reckon he's still got it. He has changed a little with how he see's things and his humour, but he's still got that fire inside him. Plus he's still trying different things as well, like how he kept getting side tracked to indie titles instead of talking about Fifa, and he still scores some great quotes every now and again. Also, he's still spot on with most of his criticisms.

Actually, when you think about it, he hasn't chnaged that much, he's still the main attraction and I would love him to do another mail bag showdown.
 

The Lugz

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Gorilla Gunk said:
He really is just unpleasable. He complains about there being no good survival horror games and when he's given one (Siren: Blood Curse) he shits all over it. He complains about realistic grey/brown shooters and when he's handed some fun, colorful, and decidedly unrealistic shooters like Borderlands 2 and Bulletstorm he shits on them as well
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yhatzee is a game critic, to critique
one must by definition point out the negatives of any situation or product
 

hooblabla6262

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Though I don't always agree with Yahtzee, I still do enjoy the humor in his videos.
Of course, if it's a game I haven't played yet, some of the jokes won't always register.
 

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KingsGambit said:
The multiplayer aspect has been mentioned and clarified more than once. The general gist is quite simply that any game should stand up and sell itself on its single player alone. That's been the same for always. If a game compromises on story, difficulty, level design or gameplay because it had to accommodate or worse, was scaled specifically for, multiplayer, then it's a negative. And I actually agree on this point.
It's actually one of the few things that I disagree with him about.

I hate a tacked on, lackluster MP component as much as the next person, but I feel some games are much, much better as MP only games than they would be as SP games, and I don't necessarily feel that they should be automatically disregarded because of that.

Bizarrely, the first games that come to mind as good examples of this are all Valve games, which is quite ironic given Yahtzee's view on Valve and their body of work.

But games like Left 4 Dead, Counter Strike and Team Fortress are great at what they do without needing anything else imo. Left 4 Dead could maybe benefit from some sort of back story, but I actually loved the ambiguity inherent in the game, and didn't really feel like the game needed a story.

For reference, i'm generally a big story gamer. I doubt that i'd play many SP games without a story, but some MP games can definitely get away with it.
 

marurder

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While I understand where the OP is coming from, given the choices of "yes" or "no", instead of; "yes totally!", "I do not so much as before" and "never"...

I would have to say "yes", I do enjoy it. But really, it's not as much as before. It isn't as thoughtful as his earlier 'work' and more juvenile. Pandering to the crowd I guess...
 

Trippy Turtle

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I don't enjoy it as much as I used too but my humor has changed a lot. I rarely laugh anymore because I don't enjoy pre-made jokes as much as I used too. I laugh for ages when something is said perfectly timed or something happens at the perfect moment though.
So basically, I don't find it funny because I already expect the jokes to come.
 

getoffmycloud

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Gorilla Gunk said:
I haven't enjoyed his videos as much lately. His last review was especially bad. Flip-flopping on his opinion of Doom 3, completely misinterpreting why people criticized him for naming MW3 and BF3 his 'Worst Games of 2011,' using the "I'm older than you so I know better" card, etc. It was just embarrassingly bad.

He really is just unpleasable. He complains about there being no good survival horror games and when he's given one (Siren: Blood Curse) he shits all over it. He complains about realistic grey/brown shooters and when he's handed some fun, colorful, and decidedly unrealistic shooters like Borderlands 2 and Bulletstorm he shits on them as well. He rages against sequels and reboots for merely having the audacity to exist yet the one game he can never shut the fuck up about is a sequel itself and some of his other favorites are sequels and reboots as well.
Good is a subjective term just because you like siren blood curse doesn't mean everyone will like it. I am sure if I asked enough people eventually I would find someone who thinks Too human was a good game. And to be fair to yahtzee he did say that the game was a mishandled good idea.

Also he likes Amnesia so he isn't just complaining for the sake of it when it comes to survival horror.
 

surg3n

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I still watch it every week, but yeah - maybe it's just a tired format, maybe we just need Yahtzee to give his opinion in another style.

What strikes me these days, is that every game sucks if it isn't what he is into - I wish he could be more objective sometimes. I especially don't like how he tars every military FPS with the same brush, and often fails to see the points that make some games stand out. I guess I'm talking about Battlefield3 here mainly, which I thought was an amazing multiplayer experience, unpredictable (mostly), and a lot of fun. Instead he painted it black because the single player sucked... seriously, a Battlefield game had a shitty campaign?, is/was anyone surprised by that?

Maybe his tastes are a bit more distinctive these days, and auto-trolling games that don't exactly fit the bill is becoming old. If you look at Minecraft, sure you can talk about the simplistic visuals, somewhat stupid mobs, repetitive nature... or you can talk about the world of possibilities, the hardcore survival mode, the incredible depth of exploration. I think gamers these days can be a lot more forgiving - willing to make do with visually less impressive indi games to experience different gameplay mechanics.

A lot of people respect his opinion, his proper opinion, not what he rants through in ZP - perhaps we'd rather hear his real opinions these days and leave the trolling to the YouTubers. In fact, I think I prefer his retro playthroughs more than ZP.