Poll: Do you think food has a gender?

hyrulegaybar

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I had to put together a sociology study back when I was a sophomore in college. This is what I came up with:

Foods have a gender, or at least they have an association with gender. I think that this accounts for the different rates of certain types of diseases that men get over women. Men universally have a lower average lifespan than women, but even accounting for violent deaths, I am not convinced that men aren't shortening their lifespan in different ways.

Take for example this list of foods:

wine
beer
salad
steak
potato
broccoli
yogurt
Diet Coke
buffalo wings

I am certain that each and everyone posting on this thread would associate those foods with a man or a woman, but not necessarily both. As a former waiter, I usually played to gender stereotypes and was never wrong. Yes, it was sexist. But my customers always toed the line according to my observations.

The problem is that food that's associated with masculinity or being a man is also food that isn't particularly good for you. Virtually no vegetable is associated with manliness, and most foods for men are full calorie and high in saturated fat. Women, on the other hand, stereotypically are associated with a healthier diet.

What do you think? Am I talking out my ass on Mars here? Or do you think there could be some weight to this?
 

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hyrulegaybar said:
The problem is that food that's associated with masculinity or being a man is also food that isn't particularly good for you. Virtually no vegetable is associated with manliness, and most foods for men are full calorie and high in saturated fat. Women, on the other hand, stereotypically are associated with a healthier diet.
While that is true, it does not necessarily translate into reality.

Some foods may be associated to a certain gender, but in the end there are enough people from both sides who enjoy it, so...


....what's this thread about again? ^^
 

Skeleon

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Animals that we eat usually had genders.

The other stuff, like what's on your list... not really.
It's just that stupid society wants us to conform to male/female stereotypes so if I eat a yoghurt as a male I'm somehow less masculine or something. It's nothing based in reality, but there is an association, I'll give you that, even though it's mostly stereotype.

By the way, hyrulegaybar, women are also associated with eating buckets of ice cream when they're sad.
 

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I really dont think that foods have genders. Im not an idiot, i know they have to reproduce somehow, but i find it hard to beleive that foods have gender's.
 

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I'm already endlessly amused by the responses by people who clearly didn't read my post. :)

Skeleon said:
Animals that we eat usually had genders.

The other stuff, like what's on your list... not really.
It's just that stupid society wants us to conform to male/female stereotypes so if I eat a yoghurt as a male I'm somehow less masculine or something. It's nothing based in reality, but there is an association, I'll give you that, even though it's mostly stereotype.

By the way, hyrulegaybar, women are also associated with eating buckets of ice cream when they're sad.
Well I agree that it's not sensible, but do you think it exists? I think it's unacknowledged but there is such a thing as man food and woman food in our society, is there not?

And yes, ice cream. But only in pint containers.
 

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hyrulegaybar said:
I associated those foods to gender only because you asked it. Even still, as I like yogurt more then girls I know, I associated to me and not a male or female category. I also associated the vegetables with no sex class as well, neither male nor female. Wine and diet coke I associated with male.
 

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PurpleRain said:
hyrulegaybar said:
I associated those foods to gender only because you asked it. Even still, as I like yogurt more then girls I know, I associated to me and not a male or female category. I also associated the vegetables with no sex class as well, neither male nor female. Wine and diet coke I associated with male.
Diet Coke? Really?? Why? I'm curious to hear.
 

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I wonder what fruit is? Seeing as its part of the process of sexual reproduction of the plant (the ovaries i think).

But i'm going with the Germans where all objects have a gender.
 

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hyrulegaybar said:
Well I agree that it's not sensible, but do you think it exists?
Well, yes, I think it exists in the sense that societal views and advertisements make us think it exists. It's a real opinion we get indoctrinated with. It's not real real, though, if you get what I mean..

I think it's unacknowledged but there is such a thing as man food and woman food in our society, is there not?
On the contrary, I think it's far too acknowledged for something that isn't real. Acknowledgement where it isn't due. I think that food is "genderless" but society tells us what its gender-association is/should be.

hyrulegaybar said:
Diet Coke? Really?? Why? I'm curious to hear.
See, I associated that with neither males nor females. I know that the stereotype is "young hip woman" but I drink a lot - A LOT - of cola and I know how bad it would be for me if I drank the sugar-stuffed kind.
It's not really about gender even though the advertisements always feature "young hip women".
 

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Well you can be pretty sure that the cows and chickens had a gender before they were turned into steak and chicken wings.
 

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hyrulegaybar said:
PurpleRain said:
hyrulegaybar said:
I associated those foods to gender only because you asked it. Even still, as I like yogurt more then girls I know, I associated to me and not a male or female category. I also associated the vegetables with no sex class as well, neither male nor female. Wine and diet coke I associated with male.
Diet Coke? Really?? Why? I'm curious to hear.
It's obvious that Coke Light is for girls and Coke Zero is for guys.

And Pepsi Max is for everyone.
 

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Woem said:
hyrulegaybar said:
PurpleRain said:
hyrulegaybar said:
I associated those foods to gender only because you asked it. Even still, as I like yogurt more then girls I know, I associated to me and not a male or female category. I also associated the vegetables with no sex class as well, neither male nor female. Wine and diet coke I associated with male.
Diet Coke? Really?? Why? I'm curious to hear.
It's obvious that Coke Light is for girls and Coke Zero is for guys.

And Pepsi Max is for everyone.
And Mountain Dew is for virgins.
 

hyrulegaybar

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Woem said:
Well you can be pretty sure that the cows and chickens had a gender before they were turned into steak and chicken wings.
Well, let me be clear--gender is a societal construct. You're talking about sex, which is a biological construct. Also, I'm going to blow your mind, but men and women have XY and XX chromosomes. Chickens don't work that way--instead, the females have ZW while the men have ZZ. Essentially, their males are sex determined the way our females are. MADNESS.
 

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hyrulegaybar said:
Woem said:
Well you can be pretty sure that the cows and chickens had a gender before they were turned into steak and chicken wings.
Well, let me be clear--gender is a societal construct. You're talking about sex, which is a biological construct. Also, I'm going to blow your mind, but men and women have XY and XX chromosomes. Chickens don't work that way--instead, the females have ZW while the men have ZZ. Essentially, their males are sex determined the way our females are. MADNESS.
Gender is a societal construct when applied to humans. When applied to animals it refers to the set of characteristics that distinguish between male and female entities: its biological sex.
 

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Woem said:
hyrulegaybar said:
Woem said:
Well you can be pretty sure that the cows and chickens had a gender before they were turned into steak and chicken wings.
Well, let me be clear--gender is a societal construct. You're talking about sex, which is a biological construct. Also, I'm going to blow your mind, but men and women have XY and XX chromosomes. Chickens don't work that way--instead, the females have ZW while the men have ZZ. Essentially, their males are sex determined the way our females are. MADNESS.
Gender is a societal construct when applied to humans. When applied to animals it refers to the set of characteristics that distinguish between male and female entities: its biological sex.
Er, then it's called sex. It isn't called gender then. What frame of reference are you using? I'm using sociology/biology.
 

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hyrulegaybar said:
Woem said:
hyrulegaybar said:
Woem said:
Well you can be pretty sure that the cows and chickens had a gender before they were turned into steak and chicken wings.
Well, let me be clear--gender is a societal construct. You're talking about sex, which is a biological construct. Also, I'm going to blow your mind, but men and women have XY and XX chromosomes. Chickens don't work that way--instead, the females have ZW while the men have ZZ. Essentially, their males are sex determined the way our females are. MADNESS.
Gender is a societal construct when applied to humans. When applied to animals it refers to the set of characteristics that distinguish between male and female entities: its biological sex.
Er, then it's called sex. It isn't called gender then. What frame of reference are you using? I'm using sociology/biology.
I'm saying that when it comes to animals gender and sex mean the same thing because animals don't have a social role or gender identity.