Verily, the lack of adherence to rudimentary morphological principles invokes disdain towards the gentlemen guilty of such abhorrent digital penmanship.
Pronunciation. And... it's OK. We've all done it.Erana said:My problem with it is that when I read, I hear it verbally. So when someone omits letters, uses numbers as letters or ignores punctuation, its like someone stops mid-sentence to interject an odd pronounciation of normal words or numbers into whatever they were saying.
Woah! OK, always good to hear a well-defined empirical opinion. But man... Withholding sex because of a typo? That's cruel. And I'm pretty sure that methodology is a little out of reach for regular teachers. ;Plithium.jelly said:It burns uss, it doess, preciousss.
This [http://www.girlswithslingshots.com/comics/2010-01-04-GWS849.jpg] nicely illustrates my feelings about grammar and spelling.
I mean, surely it's not that difficult to write the words of your native language correctly? You just have to read back what you wrote before clicking "post". And it's not like there aren't dictionaries built in to everything these days. Those little wavy red lines do mean something, you know. I can deal with the occasional typo, but constant poor spelling drives me up the wall. And text speak makes me feel all stabby.
Don't you mean too prevalent ?Metalhandkerchief said:It's funny, in this context you present "onomatopoeia" as your example of a word that is fine to misspell, yet this particular word is like "Aluminum" a bastardized American degeneration of the original word, (Aluminium/ Onomatopoetica) created by a large population basically "giving up" trying to teach it's original spelling and instead just rewriting the language.Dr_Horrible said:mixing up there and they're is just plain stupid, but accidentaly misspelling onomatopoeia isn't.
This kind of laziness is much to prevalent in America.
I guess my point is, don't throw rocks in glass houses.
Farther than stars said:Oh those dog eyes were meant ironically, so don't worry about me. I honestly value your input.StBishop said:Well for starters, Australia.
Also, the Internet.
Sorry for being a little harsh about your first thread, I was more demonstrating clarity of meaning being more important to me than avoiding typos.
Although I still can't find any example of "every where" - not in Australian language (sorry, dialect) or even on that link you sent me. Are you sure you're not confusing the hyphen in the word, symbolising the syllable, on that page?
dyre wrote "everywhere" (or had edited it by the time I saw it first) so when you quoted and saidFarther than stars said:Kind of like "every where", ey? ;Pdyre said:When it reeks of laziness, yes, it's annoying. It's ok to spell "squirrel" incorrectly, but it's unacceptable to misspell "apple."
A minor pet peeve of mine is when people type "payed" when they mean "paid." Spell check doesn't pick this up, so I see this mistake everywhere
But yeah, I see where you're coming from. Admittedly, these kind of mistakes could be contributed to grammar and not to spelling, but it's still in the sense of how the word is written, so I feel it's on topic.
I thought you were trying to correct everywhere with every where.Farther than stars said:Kind of like "every where", ey?
Bias isn't binary. There are degrees. W3schools is pretty much only used by web developers (let's say 90%, but of course it's much higher). Wikimedia websites (including Wikipedia) are used by almost everybody. Maybe a largish proportion is coming from educational institutions, but it will not be anywhere near as high. Furthermore, those people also browse to other websites. There is absolutely no denying that the group of people visiting Wikipedia more closely resembles the variety of the group of people browsing other sites on the internet. Furthermore, like I said, the page I linked doesn't just list Wikipedia's traffic stats, it lists stats from thousands of sites accumulated by multiple widely used accumulators.JezebelinHell said:Any bias is still bias. I am also unsure how you could think they are less so when they have a huge proportion of education institution hits even though they are not even supposed to be used as a documented source for such work in most instances. They are no less biased. They even state they should not be used as a documented source.Jordi said:I disagree. First of all, why wouldn't you want to count those school and work PCs? If it's just for leisure sites (like this one) I can understand, but overall I'd say that you need to take these things into account. Second, I think the group that uses Wikimedia is much, much more diverse than the group using w3schools. Finally, and probably most importantly, if you go to that page I linked you will see that they actually use multiple web statistics from different sources, which together amount up to many billions of page visits a month.JezebelinHell said:I wouldn't trust Wikipedia either. By the same logic they are accessed a lot by computers that are used by people who do not have a choice of browsers because they are accessing from schools and work PCs. So I see that as being just as biased.Jordi said:-snipJezebelinHell said:-snipJordi said:Furthermore, correct me if I'm wrong, but I think that IE is still unfortunately the most used browser, and I don't think it has spell checks.
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Those stats are probably not unbiased, but they are way more unbiased than w3schools'.
And it is nearly 4 AM and I have probably butchered the above snipping.
I disagree. Checking your own posts is a pretty hard thing to do, and for a reason that I shall elaborate in my next sentence. You are your own worste editor.The Spartan E1337 said:Yes. It really, really annoys me. Checking your own posts isn't that hard to do, and it makes it much easier for the rest of us to understand what you're trying to say. But spelling doesn't bug me as much as punctuation. If I tried to type an entire post that neglected to use any commas or periods or anything and expected you to understand it at a glance that would be really hard and unfair we would be unable to tell what you are saying and it just adds unnecessary confusion to an otherwise easy post so basically what I am saying is use proper spelling and whatnot it isn't that hard and more people will take you seriously and actually read to the end of you post and you would be a better person for it.
The only thing that pisses me off more than txt-speak and bad grammar, is when people use both at the same time.Dr_Horrible said:Well, everyone makes mistakes, but I think that people should at least TRY to use proper spelling and punctuation. It helps to give your opinions an air of respectability, and makes things easier to understand. Also, there are certain different levels; mixing up there and they're is just plain stupid, but accidentaly misspelling onomatopoeia isn't.
Ironic is the word, for that is usually that which dominates a post about posting. It all makes sense now though.StBishop said:I thought you were trying to correct everywhere with every where.
We actually agree, I just misunderstood what was going on.
I even went through the link andto prove myself right. Ironically I was also proving you right.![]()
All's well that ends well.
You should read lithium.jelly's link about texting. It's bloody hilarious.Saelune said:Only when they do not try. I mispell alot. Either because I am typing fast (or angry) or because I do not know how to spell a word. When people are just being lazy (txt talk) however, it pisses me off. (More so because pop music is promoting it now too, and rap always has)
Well, Im not that bad, but I do pride myself on not making those mistakes. Except for its and it's since 's is so inconsistant.Farther than stars said:You should read lithium.jelly's link about texting. It's bloody hilarious.Saelune said:Only when they do not try. I mispell alot. Either because I am typing fast (or angry) or because I do not know how to spell a word. When people are just being lazy (txt talk) however, it pisses me off. (More so because pop music is promoting it now too, and rap always has)And it's making me think twice about correcting people as well. =/