Assuming this game was supposed to be a time sink ( A every "edgy" time sink) then from what I've seen it accomplishes that. I wouldn't go out of my way to buy it but...eh
Did you even read what I wrote? I did say this was a way for me to pass time. So by definition it's a waste of time.Mutant1988 said:snip
The developers made this to create controversy - I think that's a really juvenile thing to do.SquallTheBlade said:Did you even read what I wrote? I did say this was a way for me to pass time. So by definition it's a waste of time.Mutant1988 said:snip
As for if I have any personal investment on this. Yes I do. This is for my enjoyment.
I'm not trying to convince you of anything. I'm just trying to understand your view on the subject. And I still only get "boohoo too bad cry me a river" and not an explanation. But I guess it's okay if you don't want to answer.
There is nothing to discuss about the merits of the game because it isn't out yet. Like, that's impossible. We have to wait untill it's out and play it. How can you say something has no merit when it doesn't even exist yet? Trailer exists yeah and you can say stuff about it but as for the whole game? Not possible. And even if you think the trailer sucks there is no reason to attack those who do like it.
And what should I get over? This conversation? Like I said this is for my own enjoyment. I don't see a reason to "get over it".
Get over the fact that I don't like people that like garbage. Your appeal to civility or understanding is both trite and forced and comes across as thoroughly condescending.SquallTheBlade said:And what should I get over? This conversation? Like I said this is for my own enjoyment. I don't see a reason to "get over it".
Protagonist could go and maybe a little more color. If they went for a Sin City like look it could work but need a better protag. Hey wasn't Mad World also monochrome?Mutant1988 said:With that protagonist and that monochrome graphics? Not really. It looks generic as all hell and without the "controversy" it would literally have nothing going for it.
Except for destructive environments. Because that has never been in any game ever, right?
Look man, I agree with your sentiments that the game is overall trash, but this right here is getting into some really mean and unnecessary insults here.Mutant1988 said:Well, that's, like... Your opinion. I think anyone that likes this garbage have an intelligence deficiency. Or astonishingly poor taste. Or both.
He's not wrong.Mutant1988 said:tl;dr - The game looks mediocre. The concept is terrible without a good game. The people interested in it seemingly are so only for the concept, which as previously stated was just tacked on to a terrible looking game to create controversy in the name of profit, selling it to all the juvenile morons who gets off on it existing uncensored and wanting to rub it in the face of whoever.
If you don't find the game appealing that's fine, but there is really no reason to be little the people who do is really unnecessary.Mutant1988 said:Get over the fact that I don't like people that like garbage. Your appeal to civility or understanding is both trite and forced and comes across as thoroughly condescending.SquallTheBlade said:And what should I get over? This conversation? Like I said this is for my own enjoyment. I don't see a reason to "get over it".
"Deep" meaning isn't hard to fabricate, when the game is release I'm sure someone somewhere would find reason in the slaughter.MaddKossack115 said:And if people claim that Hatred isn't "supposed" to deconstruct violence, and is only supposed to be "fun" (the developers have sure gone out of their way to do so), it sure as hell fails to look anything like "fun". It's not colorful, there's nothing actually funny about killing the civilians (compared to GTA or Saints Row, where the panic lines really ARE hilarious gems for how over-the-top they are), the only gameplay shown only features fleeing civilians or pathetically armed cops, and the protagonist is an utterly unlikable Nihilist, who doesn't even have the "evil is cool" charisma that makes other fictional mass murderers somewhat more charming. He kind of does resemble actual mass murderers in that sense - he seems so shocking when he opens fire on a bunch of innocent people for no reason, and turns a normal day into one of terror for a few hours, but when you peel back how much of his "motivation" is just rambling, misanthropic nonsense, he only becomes a disgustingly pathetic waste of flesh that you feel shouldn't have been born in the first place.
Or so they would like to believe.Islandbuffilo said:In short it's just an edgy game for edgy people.
Uh... the actual developers have repeated time and again that Hatred has NO statement to make, outside of the broadest strokes of a "take that" to "politically correct" games. And their idea of doing so is just making a game where you kill people with no context whatsoever. That isn't even remotely close to making a statement, and it sure doesn't look entertaining in the slightest - certainly not when there are SCORES of other games that either make rampaging genuinely hilarious or exciting (GTA, Saints Row, Postal 2), or takes some serious time to deconstruct how violence is in a realistic setting (Manhunt, Spec Ops: The Line, Postal 1).Islandbuffilo said:"Deep" meaning isn't hard to fabricate, when the game is release I'm sure someone somewhere would find reason in the slaughter.
Even then its pretty clear this game's main purpose is to make statement, other than that its pretty much just an over the top edgy shoot'em up, and there's nothing really wrong with that. Some people get a rush from fleeing screaming victims, I know I do from time to time, so its not impossible for someone to find this entertaining if not fun.
In short it's just an edgy game for edgy people.
It's often synonymous with attention seeking and more coincidentally paired with self important.Mutant1988 said:Islandbuffilo said:In short it's just an edgy game for edgy people.
I didn't know "edgy" was synonymous with "Attention seeking" (Purposefully invoking controversy to generate sales) or "Self-important" (Defying "Censorship" and "PC" attitudes) though.
That would indeed be a statement. I'm not going to go deep into it, because as I said earlier, its not hard to find "deep" motives and meaning in things and I certainly won't be doing that for this game. I will say this; It's simply violent for the sake off being offensive, simple as that.MaddKossack115 said:Uh... the actual developers have repeated time and again that Hatred has NO statement to make, outside of the broadest strokes of a "take that" to "politically correct" games.
MaddKossack115 said:making it legitimately funny and over the top (actual comedy, a Laughably Evil protagonist, SOMETHING to make the game less grim), or to go out of its way to highlight why indiscriminate violence is bad in real life (as in, if you're going grim, DO IT RIGHT, NUMBNUTS!!!). Otherwise, it's a one-trick pony at best, and with a measly 7 levels, it would only last about a rental before anybody morbidly curious enough to check Hatred out just gets bored with what flimsy premise it presents.
Ah yes, good point.Islandbuffilo said:It's often synonymous with attention seeking and more coincidentally paired with self important.Mutant1988 said:Islandbuffilo said:In short it's just an edgy game for edgy people.
I didn't know "edgy" was synonymous with "Attention seeking" (Purposefully invoking controversy to generate sales) or "Self-important" (Defying "Censorship" and "PC" attitudes) though.
This is where I'm at too. I really don't care about how good the gameplay is; I won't be touching this immature garbage.Mutant1988 said:No.
Not even remotely.
It looks like a game made by controversy invoking dipshits for controversy invoking dipshits. It's "edgy" masturbation material for juvenile morons.