Poll: Donating blood

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lechat

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good thread
donate plasma and platelets regularly (wish they would stop ringing me when i am 2 or 3 days late) and for free cause that's how we roll in australia also fuck'n hate needles so it's not like it's a pleasant experience.
also kinda creepy how they take your blood, spin it round a few times, take what they need and give you back the other stuff but... cookies!
 

game-lover

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I wonder if I can manage it.

Over here, a lot of high schools and colleges have those vans that come up for volunteers.

At my high school, the rule was you had to be 17 so for me, I couldn't try until my senior year. And apparently, I was so nervous that my pulse was too high and they sent me away.

Since I've never given blood before, I don't imagine I'll cease being nervous so... I guess I can hope I'm not so majorly nervous the next time?

Though it's been years since then so who knows?
 

Meg Galuardi

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I've tried close to five times, but I have low iron levels and when those are fine the nurse hasnt been able to find my veins and has poked me wrong and when that didnt happen the blood wasnt flowing fast enough and it clotted in the bag. So while I have tried and would love to donate blood, I've given up.
 

Quaxar

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J9ACK9 said:
Every single drop of blood that blood banks get is prescreened for a wide variety of diseases before it's ever given to another human being, thus effectively (as far as I can see) eliminating any significant need to bar specific groups of people from trying to donate.
I'm perfectly happy to give blood, have plenty of times in the past, but any group that continues to promote the sigma that gay people are somehow "unfit" to give blood at all only helps perpetuate the stereotype that homosexuals are more promiscuous and more unsafe sexually than other people.
Male homosexuality is a risk group. Between 2006 and 2009 in the US gay men have accounted for 61% of new HIV infections while only being 2% of the population. The CDC estimates about 77% of all new infections can still be traced back to male on male action. Now there are several theories on why this is but that's not really important in this context, suffice to say there sadly still is a definitively increased infection risk.

Now yes, all blood donations get tested routinely but the thing is that these tests can't catch everything. The reason many countries won't allow donations from someone who spent too much time in the UK in the 80s and 90s is because these people carry an increased risk of BSE, which has been proven to be infectious over donor blood but can currently not be tested for in the context of a donor screening.
As with HIV that can and will indeed be testet for, but the thing is this is what we call an antibody test, or more specifically usually an immunoassay test. Here you add a macromolecule specifically targeted by HIV antibodies to a blood sample and if there are antibodies present it will bind and emit some kind of signal. This of course requires HIV antibodies to be present and the thing is these antibodies aren't produced instantly but over a certain time called the "window period". This window period for HIV is anywhere from 1 to 3 months, in about 3% of cases it can even take up to half a year between infection and possible detection, which means you could be infectious and still donate blood for months and all these tests would do is give false negatives.

There was a case of HIV infection caused by a bad blood transfusion just a few months ago in Austria and lots of people went crazy over it. Fortunately it was an 80 year old woman, which is of course tough luck for her but still better than a kid or something.
These things still can happen, but they don't very often because we make sure that all risks are eliminated. It's not a discrimination against homosexuality per se, it's the exclusion of a risk factor in exchange for additional safety of donor blood. Homosexual men should have every right to donate blood if they are willing to and as far as I know they are free to do here for medical experiments and such where it's not going to be used on other humans but if it's avoidable with enough regular donors it is really a question of perceived discrimination vs. real risk increase, not exactly the baseless homophobia you make it out to be.
 

Boris Goodenough

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J9ACK9 said:
...perpetuate the stereotype that homosexuals are more promiscuous and more unsafe sexually than other people.
The average gay man has sex with 3 men per year, a gay man with a "primary partner" has sex with 2 other men per year. Gay men do have more sex, more often, and with more people and use condoms less than straight people.

http://www.mygenes.co.nz/MainPartners.htm
http://abcnews.go.com/Health/Healthday/story?id=4508672&page=1
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/marten-weber/why-some-guys-dont-wear-condoms_b_2864814.html
 

Callate

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The last time I tried to give blood (in a limited block of time I had set aside for that purpose) the staff told me that I had happened to come in during their (entirely unadvertised) lunch break.

I'm sure I'll try again some time in the future, but mostly I confess it's sort of down to the coincidental intersection of a blood drive nearby and the time to do it; events like the above somewhat sour me on going out of my way to donate.
 

Coach Morrison

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I lived in Europe for more than a certain years, so I can't donate blood over here in the U.S.

My blood is apparently tainted.
 

Zakarath

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Here in the states, they only let you donate if you're above 125 pounds, which disqualifies me.

Edit: No, wait; the req is only 110 pounds. perhaps I will sometime, then.
 

Timmey

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I give blood regularly and urge all those which can to do so.

However i have to take issue with the poll option 'No I'm gay and backwards arseholes stop me'

It isn't 'Backwards arseholes' which are stopping gay people giving blood, it's the fact that you are more likely to be HIV positive which is stopping you. The exact same reason why you can't give blood if you have had sex with a prostitute in the last few years, because you fall into the HIV positive risk percentage group. Please stop perpetrating this myth that you can't give blood because of your sexuality, its because of your chance of being HIV positive.
 

viranimus

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I would love to. However last time I tried to donate my blood sugar was 2100+ and for some reason they were not too keen on taking the strawberry syrup runnin through my veins.
 

Quaxar

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viranimus said:
I would love to. However last time I tried to donate my blood sugar was 2100+ and for some reason they were not too keen on taking the strawberry syrup runnin through my veins.
Either you slipped a zero in there or you've got to be some sort of glucose zombie or mutant. Are you sure you're not the Stay Puft Marshmallow Man from Ghostbusters?
 

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game-lover said:
I wonder if I can manage it.

Over here, a lot of high schools and colleges have those vans that come up for volunteers.

At my high school, the rule was you had to be 17 so for me, I couldn't try until my senior year. And apparently, I was so nervous that my pulse was too high and they sent me away.

Since I've never given blood before, I don't imagine I'll cease being nervous so... I guess I can hope I'm not so majorly nervous the next time?

Though it's been years since then so who knows?
A quick google search brought up the following for "Texas Blood Donation requirements":
http://www.inyourhands.org/whocandonate.php
Generally speaking if you're a healthy person who weighs more than 115 pounds, and doesn't have STDs you're elligible.
 

michael87cn

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marcooos said:
Hey escapists,

I like to post these at least once a year to try and get people to donate blood roughly around the same time I do.
I'm in the UK so there is no monetary incentive, its just 30-45 minutes of your time, a little bit of pain but you walk away with the knowledge you helped save someone's life.

Any who's not gone before, try it? Please? It takes so little time to make an appointment and generally the staff there will help and reassure you throughout the process.
When I donated it took 4 and a half hours before I even started giving blood, and several paperwork tests, lots of sitting in the waiting room... full of very poor looking people. It was one of the most uncomfortable experiences in my life. Going to the doctor is a faster process, atleast compared to the blood center near me.

Also, for whatever reason, I was unable to even give much blood. About 10 minutes in I started losing all feeling in my arm (the one with the tube inserted into it) and felt very dizzy. I notified the nurse (was told if I experienced anything out of the ordinary to notify someone immediately) (please note: I was not nervous or anxious, I rather desperately needed the donation money so was very willing to undergo the process)

Left the center wondering why on earth I couldn't give blood. While blood is necessary, I urge people to only go through this process if you are REALLY sure you want to do it, otherwise you're going to be very miserable.

If you're lucky maybe you'll get a quick trip.
 

The Lunatic

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It's kinda odd really.

Disallowing gay people from giving blood these days makes about as much sense as disallowing anyone under 25, honestly.
 

Nigh Invulnerable

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Hemophiliac here, so they don't want my blood. It's not strong enough, as my wife jokes. I'm literally the only person in the world that could maybe receive my donated blood anyway, so I don't bother, and they likely would just prefer to use someone who doesn't have hemophilia.
 

Gunner 51

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I'd like to try giving blood, but I'm not terribly sure they'd take mine given that I have Gilbert's Syndrome.
 

JetFury

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I used to love donating blood in school. The last couple times I tried, recently in my local blood bank my heart was pounding and I couldn't calm down so they couldn't take my blood. Somethingabout it would end up hurting me if they took it while I was nervous. They shoulda done it anyway, I could handle it.
 

The Funslinger

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I want to at some point, but I'm waiting for some THC to pass out of my bloodstream due to circumstances I cannot specify at the risk of being seen to endorse due to site rules.

But the implication is clear enough, I suppose.

So yeah, when that's all gone, I'll be sure to bleed for the cause.
 

JetFury

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game-lover said:
I wonder if I can manage it.

Over here, a lot of high schools and colleges have those vans that come up for volunteers.

At my high school, the rule was you had to be 17 so for me, I couldn't try until my senior year. And apparently, I was so nervous that my pulse was too high and they sent me away.

Since I've never given blood before, I don't imagine I'll cease being nervous so... I guess I can hope I'm not so majorly nervous the next time?

Though it's been years since then so who knows?
I'm with you there :( damnit...