Poll: Dubstep, how do YOU feel about it?

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Vigormortis

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SmashLovesTitanQuest said:
You mean the real dubstep?

No, of course you don't. You mean that WUBWUBWWUBWUWBUWDASOHUDFVUFIFV shit that is just 20 year old Drum and Bass slowed down by 100% with all the creativity removed.

Yeah, it sucks.
Hence why I still refer to today's "dubstep" by it's real name. "Brostep".

And, seeing as one of brosteps poster-boys; a shining example of the range and quality of the sub-genre; is Skrillex...

No. I fucking hate todays dubstep. Just like SmashLove. It's awful, uninspired, uncreative, obnoxious, and just down-right annoying. For most brostep "artists", all they do is take samples of other songs; usually pop or trance; play them for a minute or two with some fucking annoying squeaky voiced singing over top, cut to the typical "wub" bass, and rinse/repeat a few times. It's the equivalent of every other awful, popular-in-its-time sub-genre that was only enjoyed by people without taste or people who wanted something they knew their parents would hate.

You want good dubstep? Listen to Deadmau5, The Glitch Mob, Basement Jaxx, or the like. At least their songs have some semblance of originality and musicality to them.

Though I will add that there is at least one "brostep" song I do like.
Funny thing is, it's repetitive as hell and, as far as I'm concerned, was "released" as a joke by Deadmau5. (released is in quotes because it was leaked to his MySpace/Facebook page and was labeled unfinished) Yet, I STILL find it more enjoyable than most brostep songs I've heard.

Quick caveat: enable the 3D on the player. For some reason, the audio quality is much improved. Whoever uploaded messed something up.
 

217not237

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I feel the same towards dubstep as I do rap or country: I just do not like it, but there are some songs that I thought were very good.
 

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Dubstep is decent at best. I don't like it, but I don't hate it either.

Americanized dubstep (and the related brostep) can disappear into the ether and be forgotten forever. It's just... it's so bad in every single way.
 

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Okay lets start by clarifying exactly what "dubstep" is in this instance. Are you referring to REAL dubstep as it started in the mid 80's as a derivative of the disco genera?
Or are you referring to the music that artists like 12th Planet and Skrillex popularized? I call that "fauxstep" becoase while it borrows some characteristics of dubstep, it doesn't really fit in with the established genera, yet everyone and their uncle tends to refer to it as such.
Not that I'm knocking that sub-genera (I happen to quite enjoy the works of Noisia and Skrillex) but it's unfair to properly judge an entire sub-genera without fully understanding it.

And to answer your question, while it's not my favorite fruit of the vast cornucopia that is electronic music, I do appreciate the raw energy that radiates from proper dubstep.
 

Vault101

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Vigormortis said:
You want good dubstep? Listen to Deadmau5, The Glitch Mob, Basement Jaxx, or the like. At least their songs have some semblance of originality and musicality to them.
Glitch mob are dubstep?.....man they are waaaaaaay to good to be associated with Brostep

I found out about this genre called "glitch hop" which seems to suit them better...of coarse theres always overlap
 

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Pharsalus said:
Most if it is bad, I have some great speakers in my CR-Z, but I'll get my bass elsewhere. Some of the elements of dubstep can be put together in a very effective way while still being good music (LMFAO) but most dubstep is just techno with more awful ingredients.
LMFAO?....as in

sexy and I know it?....blaaarrgghhh
 

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Gmans uncle said:
Okay lets start by clarifying exactly what "dubstep" is in this instance. Are you referring to REAL dubstep as it started in the mid 80's as a derivative of the disco genera?
Or are you referring to the music that artists like 12th Planet and Skrillex popularized? I call that "fauxstep" becoase while it borrows some characteristics of dubstep, it doesn't really fit in with the established genera, yet everyone and their uncle tends to refer to it as such.
The 80s dubstep your referring to has nothing to do with either two, if your talking about the one i'm thinking of it's kinda got a slow funk vibe.Modern dub or breaks hadn't even been invented by the mid 80s.
Vault101 said:
Pharsalus said:
Most if it is bad, I have some great speakers in my CR-Z, but I'll get my bass elsewhere. Some of the elements of dubstep can be put together in a very effective way while still being good music (LMFAO) but most dubstep is just techno with more awful ingredients.
LMFAO?....as in

sexy and I know it?....blaaarrgghhh
Yes are you actually saying LMFAO is good music, AND better then most dubstep?
I do like the acid bass thing going on in the song tbh
 

Vigormortis

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Vault101 said:
Vigormortis said:
You want good dubstep? Listen to Deadmau5, The Glitch Mob, Basement Jaxx, or the like. At least their songs have some semblance of originality and musicality to them.
Glitch mob are dubstep?.....man they are waaaaaaay to good to be associated with Brostep

I found out about this genre called "glitch hop" which seems to suit them better...of coarse theres always overlap
Actually, quite a few of The Glitch Mobs songs fit into the classic definition of dubstep. (notice I didn't say brostep) Overall, most of their songs are very much blends of many electronic genres and sub-genres.

Hold on....I believe you and I discussed this once before, did we not? I seem to recall...

Oh well. I think in the end you and I agreed that The Glitch Mob are fucking awesome. ;)

 

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It's danceable. What else do you want? You want philosophy, read Kant. And at least, it beats screechy "house" music that it replaces...
 

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hecticpicnic said:
Gmans uncle said:
Okay lets start by clarifying exactly what "dubstep" is in this instance. Are you referring to REAL dubstep as it started in the mid 80's as a derivative of the disco genera?
Or are you referring to the music that artists like 12th Planet and Skrillex popularized? I call that "fauxstep" becoase while it borrows some characteristics of dubstep, it doesn't really fit in with the established genera, yet everyone and their uncle tends to refer to it as such.
The 80s dubstep your referring to has nothing to do with either two, if your talking about the one i'm thinking of it's kinda got a slow funk vibe.Modern dub or breaks hadn't even been invented by the mid 80s.
I checked you out on that, and it seems you're correct, the dubstep I was trying to refer to hadn't been started until the late 90's, and wasn't popularized until the mid-2000's.
Sorry about that.
 

Vault101

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Vigormortis said:
Vault101 said:
Vigormortis said:
You want good dubstep? Listen to Deadmau5, The Glitch Mob, Basement Jaxx, or the like. At least their songs have some semblance of originality and musicality to them.
Glitch mob are dubstep?.....man they are waaaaaaay to good to be associated with Brostep

I found out about this genre called "glitch hop" which seems to suit them better...of coarse theres always overlap
Actually, quite a few of The Glitch Mobs songs fit into the classic definition of dubstep. (notice I didn't say brostep) Overall, most of their songs are very much blends of many electronic genres and sub-genres.

Hold on....I believe you and I discussed this once before, did we not? I seem to recall...

Oh well. I think in the end you and I agreed that The Glitch Mob are fucking awesome. ;)

I belive we did....its just you know..Glitch mob, I mean its mostly personal taste but for mr they aremiles above alot of stuff out there

I acutally like Bassnectar though, and some other more obscure artists I found on Beatport...
Johann610 said:
It's danceable. What else do you want? You want philosophy, read Kant. And at least, it beats screechy "house" music that it replaces...
I don;t dance..period

and I don't seek out music to dance to it
 

SageRuffin

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I'll listen to it, but it has to have a certain..."feel" to it in order for me to not write it off as warbled noise.
 

Aprilgold

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Dubstep: the only music that is more popular because of its shit then who does it well.

Electronica and the other spin-off of it are always good, but dubstep is, at least now more known for how much people hate it.

I can only imagine making dubstep generally goes like this "alright so I'm going to add a electronic sound here, another here.... God damn this is taking forever, lets add 10 minutes of WUWUWUBUBUBUB under it."
 

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I have a theory about dubstep.
DigitalSushi said:
If you listen to the track helpfully posted by DigitalSushi, this kind of music sounds dreadfully boring when played at a sensible volume on regular speakers or headphones. However, play this kind of music in a high-end dance club with a state-of-the-art speaker system, with the volume turned up so high you can feel the vibrations from the bass in your femurs, and the combined audio/physical effect is pretty neat.

My theory is that most dubstep/house music/techno/etc. is less about making songs that actually sound good or are interesting to listen to, and more about concocting mixtures of highly stylized noise to allow clubs to show off their audio setups in the most visceral way possible: by making you go deaf while shaking your skeleton to pieces.

Because those kinds of places aren't about listening to good music; they're about blasting your senses with as much stimulation as possible while you dance like an epileptic and take ecstasy get drunk out of your mind.

It's like if someone tried to make a TV show completely out of remixed test patterns. No matter how much artistic effort they put into it, there isn't going to be a whole lot of entertainment value unless you watch it on some kind of 180" OLED HDTV with 3D. And if you're high on LSD, you'll probably enjoy it even more
 

Vault101

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DanDeFool said:
If you listen to the track helpfully posted by DigitalSushi, this kind of music sounds dreadfully boring when played at a sensible volume on regular speakers or headphones. However, play this kind of music in a high-end dance club with a state-of-the-art speaker system, with the volume turned up so high you can feel the vibrations from the bass in your femurs, and the combined audio/physical effect is pretty neat.

My theory is that most dubstep/house music/techno/etc. is less about making songs that actually sound good or are interesting to listen to, and more about concocting mixtures of highly stylized noise to allow clubs to show off their audio setups in the most visceral way possible: by making you go deaf while shaking your skeleton to pieces.

Because those kinds of places aren't about listening to good music; they're about blasting your senses with as much stimulation as possible while you dance like an epileptic and take ecstasy get drunk out of your mind.

It's like if someone tried to make a TV show completely out of remixed test patterns. No matter how much artistic effort they put into it, there isn't going to be a whole lot of entertainment value unless you watch it on some kind of 180" OLED HDTV with 3D. And if you're high on LSD, you'll probably enjoy it even more
while that is probably part of it I think its unfair to assume ALL forms of electronic music are about...well what you said
 

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I suppose I do love dubstep. Or some of it and a lot of stuff that's similar but different. Love wonky bass and glitch and all sorts of funky-ass music that either is inspired by or helped to inspire dubstep or whatever. Not really sure any more. I love down-to-mid-tempo minimal drumlines, ample bass, and some good sample work. Sometimes it's called dubstep, sometimes not, but it's all the same wonderful deep wobbly goodness. Except when it's not.