Poll: Duke Nukem Forever - The greatest gaming fail?
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I just bought the game, and after playing for an hour, I don't see why people are hating on it at all. It's exactly what I expected. The gameplay is pretty much what I'd imagine Halo to be if Halo had power-ups and variation. So while it's not the tremendously groundbreaking epic masterpiece Yahtzee reviewed two years ago, the gameplay is, if nothing else, absolutely adequate.
What sets the game apart is that it made me chuckle about as often as the Portal games did. If manages to keep up the tone I won't be having problems going through the entire game with a stupid grin on my face.
Really, the only two things I can complain about is that I'd rather be able to carry more weapons, and that the controls on PC feels like a console port in the bad way. Otherwise, fuck the haters, I'm enjoying the game.
What sets the game apart is that it made me chuckle about as often as the Portal games did. If manages to keep up the tone I won't be having problems going through the entire game with a stupid grin on my face.
Really, the only two things I can complain about is that I'd rather be able to carry more weapons, and that the controls on PC feels like a console port in the bad way. Otherwise, fuck the haters, I'm enjoying the game.
Not a chance, while I was disappointed that Duke Nukem: Forever no longer felt like a Duke Nukem game I am still enjoying it, as long as I don't compare it to Duke Nukem 3D.
Too Human still takes the title of the greatest gaming fail ever in my opinion, and that's a well defended title.
Too Human still takes the title of the greatest gaming fail ever in my opinion, and that's a well defended title.
If I had the spare cash laying around then I'd consider getting Duke Nukem: Forever, and as for why there's been so much backlash surrounding it, let's remember there has been 14 years of hype surrounding this thing.
14 years.
Considering that even some of out longest runnest series and MMO's haven't even been around that long this means that out of any game out there Duke Nukem has built up more anticipation, hype and high expectations than a game that ultimately amounted to a cheeky parody of shooters at it's time really should have.
In short, I think the main reason everyone's starting to pick holes in it is because there were a fair few people who were expecting it to be the second coming of video games because of it's long development time when the reality of the matter was that the long development time was actually the result of general havoc and trouble in the game's creation rather than a solid 14 years of polishing.
As a result you should be thankful you got a game at all, nevermind one that from the gameplay I've seen actually looks pretty good. (as for the people complaining about the graphics, why is it that there are a large number of PC gamers who say 'we'd take worse graphics for better games any day' yet the graphical quality of the game comes up as one of your criticisms?)
14 years.
Considering that even some of out longest runnest series and MMO's haven't even been around that long this means that out of any game out there Duke Nukem has built up more anticipation, hype and high expectations than a game that ultimately amounted to a cheeky parody of shooters at it's time really should have.
In short, I think the main reason everyone's starting to pick holes in it is because there were a fair few people who were expecting it to be the second coming of video games because of it's long development time when the reality of the matter was that the long development time was actually the result of general havoc and trouble in the game's creation rather than a solid 14 years of polishing.
As a result you should be thankful you got a game at all, nevermind one that from the gameplay I've seen actually looks pretty good. (as for the people complaining about the graphics, why is it that there are a large number of PC gamers who say 'we'd take worse graphics for better games any day' yet the graphical quality of the game comes up as one of your criticisms?)
I don't much get the hype. It's taken over a decade, but so did the latest Guns N' Roses album and that wasn't really that great. I played the original Duke Nukem, and it was fun in a general kind of way. I probably wont be getting this one.
They actually have had it for two years. It wasn't until that time last year that they said anything about it.Xyphon said:
They had plenty of time to properly redesign the game for the times, and keep it to it's roots (being able to carry all weapons and switching to the one you want), but Gearbox failed. If other developers can make games all the time with a development time of a year and still make their games good with the proper play mechanics, Gearbox could have easily scrapped what they had received, started from scratch, and made Duke Nukem the way it was suppose to be. Being able to carry all the guns on a console controller is easy, Gearboxes excuse that it wouldn't work is bullshit. Duke Nukem 3D worked fine ported to the consoles with being able to carry all guns, DNF would have been fine too.
I don't care what people say about multiplayer, or that two weapon limits are part of this era in gaming, or that people new to the game won't be able to grasp not having a two weapon limit, a core part of Duke Nukem has always been carrying all the guns.
Reading over this thread I think I have an analogy for Duke Nukem Forever.
Its like that greasy burger from a maybe questionable restaurant that's really unhealthy, but really tasty at the same time.
No, its not the best food out there.
No, you wouldn't want to eat it all the time.
But damn, when you're in the mood, its all you want!
Thoughts on that thought?
Its like that greasy burger from a maybe questionable restaurant that's really unhealthy, but really tasty at the same time.
No, its not the best food out there.
No, you wouldn't want to eat it all the time.
But damn, when you're in the mood, its all you want!
Thoughts on that thought?
haters gonna hate.
you all just be jelly that you`ll never be as manly as the duke.
There seem to be two kinds of gamers these days
eople who hate anything that doesn`t involve smarts or people who hate games where you don`t go 20 seconds without killing something. *sigh* what happened to the real gamers?
you all just be jelly that you`ll never be as manly as the duke.
There seem to be two kinds of gamers these days
eople who hate anything that doesn`t involve smarts or people who hate games where you don`t go 20 seconds without killing something. *sigh* what happened to the real gamers?
You see, this just isn't true, and is the exact reason people are disappointed.L4Y Duke said:
You won't be Duke, you'll be a wimpy, cover-taking, two-gun holding, getting drunk off one beer, slow moving, health regenerating shadow of Duke and everything old Duke represented.
He's supposed to be an invincible badass but they turned him into another weak little grunt from other modern shooters like Halo and COD, which do all this but do it better.
If you expected this game to be any good, you need to wake up ~_~. 14 years in development is longer than most people have been gaming. Not addressed to the OP, just people who bought this in general.
It's pretty poor and stikes me as a rush job. The regenerating health, two weapon system and lack of ammo pick ups, are there to balence the game, giving you what you need for the section your at. But at the same time this remove any choices you have to make in the game. There's no need to explore, so no need for the devs to create more map than the bare minimum. It holds you hand throughout the game and just gets the experience over and done with.
It has awful graphics as well. Not the texturing and stuff (though these are pretty bad), just the whole design aesthetic. Brown enemies against brown backgrounds with a brown sky up above. The cover art isn't really indictive of the game's art direction at all.
In the same vein as what Duke is, I'd say Quake 4 is a better game (as much as I dislike it). And Bullet Storm comes closer to the expectaions for what Duke should have been.
Waiting now for Serious Sam 3 (even that's looking a little brown, but we'll see).
It has awful graphics as well. Not the texturing and stuff (though these are pretty bad), just the whole design aesthetic. Brown enemies against brown backgrounds with a brown sky up above. The cover art isn't really indictive of the game's art direction at all.
In the same vein as what Duke is, I'd say Quake 4 is a better game (as much as I dislike it). And Bullet Storm comes closer to the expectaions for what Duke should have been.
Waiting now for Serious Sam 3 (even that's looking a little brown, but we'll see).
I say **** all haters. I'm getting Balls of Steel Edition and it's going to be one of my top 5 of 2011.
The main rant about DNF from reviewers has been that it's stuck in the 90s and the gameplay feels dated.
Here's my question for them, if this game feels dated because it is using some of the 90s FPS mechanics, why is every Mario/Zelda game getting such high praise even though they have been regurgitating the same old Super Mario Bros/Zelda formula (almost 30 years ago!!) ?!?
That is why I hate the **** out of Nintendo and its hypocrite fanboys and don't trust ANY reviewer when it comes to DNF.
The main rant about DNF from reviewers has been that it's stuck in the 90s and the gameplay feels dated.
Here's my question for them, if this game feels dated because it is using some of the 90s FPS mechanics, why is every Mario/Zelda game getting such high praise even though they have been regurgitating the same old Super Mario Bros/Zelda formula (almost 30 years ago!!) ?!?
That is why I hate the **** out of Nintendo and its hypocrite fanboys and don't trust ANY reviewer when it comes to DNF.
So I finally played a really good portion of this game and i have to absolutely defend it.
Not because its good, but because it's definately not bad.
It isn't over the top action, but an enjoyable casual game that has kept me quite entertained.
At the same time, it would have been a brilliant game had it been released last generation.
For those that are disappointed and myself, I blame Gearbox for building up our expectations, and not doing enough to fulfil them. It is sadly quite evident that they didn't want to risk the time and money to turn this game into all it could have been to compete with the current generation of games.
After all, the Duke Nukem franchise was quite dormant; And Duke Nukem forever was a running gag. It's was already a huuuuge risk taking on the task of resurecting this game.
But after seeing the hype they caused once they announced that Duke lives, Gearbox should have went ahead and modified this 3DRealms' game to at least try and meet the ridiculous expectations of fans. Cos they have the technology and ability to do so now. Instead, they used 3dRealms' 90% complete game which is clearly outdated, polished it up and made it compatible with with current gen consoles, and prayed that the hype this reintroduction generated would be enough to sell it.
In my opinion, we are victims of unintelligent developement choices, not a bad game.
Might sound like I'm hating on Gearbox, but they still hold some of my respect for the initial risks they did take.
Peace.
Not because its good, but because it's definately not bad.
It isn't over the top action, but an enjoyable casual game that has kept me quite entertained.
At the same time, it would have been a brilliant game had it been released last generation.
For those that are disappointed and myself, I blame Gearbox for building up our expectations, and not doing enough to fulfil them. It is sadly quite evident that they didn't want to risk the time and money to turn this game into all it could have been to compete with the current generation of games.
After all, the Duke Nukem franchise was quite dormant; And Duke Nukem forever was a running gag. It's was already a huuuuge risk taking on the task of resurecting this game.
But after seeing the hype they caused once they announced that Duke lives, Gearbox should have went ahead and modified this 3DRealms' game to at least try and meet the ridiculous expectations of fans. Cos they have the technology and ability to do so now. Instead, they used 3dRealms' 90% complete game which is clearly outdated, polished it up and made it compatible with with current gen consoles, and prayed that the hype this reintroduction generated would be enough to sell it.
In my opinion, we are victims of unintelligent developement choices, not a bad game.
Might sound like I'm hating on Gearbox, but they still hold some of my respect for the initial risks they did take.
Peace.
hmmm.. I swear a few moonths ago I posted something along the lines of "This game is not going to be anywhere near as good as people think it will be", and by the looks of peoples impressions, and the threads that have been created in response to the release of this game, I was right.
I was never really going to get this game anyway. Now I am definitely not. Too many other better games coming out this year for me to worry about.
I was never really going to get this game anyway. Now I am definitely not. Too many other better games coming out this year for me to worry about.
Is it the biggest fail in gaming history? Hell no, there are far more titles worthy of that distinction.
Is it even a massive disappointment? Unless you've been frothing at the mouth for 14 years for the game, no.
That said, it's more Halo with Duke Nukem imagery plastered over it than a real Duke Nukem game. Traits which are as part of a Duke Nukem game as much as, if not more than the T&A and crass humour are decidedly missing. No exploration and limited to a Halo weapons interface (two weapons + bombs) are not duke.
Is it a horrible game? No. Not by any stretch. But it's not what I would call a Duke Nukem game. T%A and crass humor do not a Duke Nukem game make.
Is it even a massive disappointment? Unless you've been frothing at the mouth for 14 years for the game, no.
That said, it's more Halo with Duke Nukem imagery plastered over it than a real Duke Nukem game. Traits which are as part of a Duke Nukem game as much as, if not more than the T&A and crass humour are decidedly missing. No exploration and limited to a Halo weapons interface (two weapons + bombs) are not duke.
Is it a horrible game? No. Not by any stretch. But it's not what I would call a Duke Nukem game. T%A and crass humor do not a Duke Nukem game make.
I'll probably get it when I have the cash, Cheesy, crappy old Dolph/Arnie kill-a-thon films are a guilty pleasure of mine, DNF looks no different.
Based on this thread people are defending it jut because it Is Duke Nukem. If this was an original release of the same quality i bet you all would be tearing it apart.