Poll: Elegance versus Simplicity

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roblikestoskate

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it's not the end of the world either way, but i enjoy seeing the British spellings for variety.


Aluminum vs Aluminium - the British spelling actually creates an extra syllable. magic.
 

CapnGod

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scarbunny said:
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I'm an English teacher so there is no contest. British English is the version for grown-ups.
That is kind of insulting.
It may be insulting but it's also true.

UK English is proper English. Unfortunately the shear volume of Americans spelling everything wrong and producing literary works is causing the rest of the world to spell certain words wrong.

Also what do Americans have against the letter U? Why has it been removed from words such as colour?
Sir I hate to inform you but, there is no such thing as proper English. the language changes around so much based on where you go that your better of prefacing the word English with a region to avoid confusion. I'm sorry to tell you that the British aren't some kind of glorious English master race who's every word like music, deal with the fact that American English and British English are different and neither is "proper".

Oh and we hate the letter "u" because we could, thats right we fought that whole revolutionary war not because we wanted independence but because we were sick of being fined for using words without "u".
I think you'll find that English is the language spoken in England, and recorded in the Oxford English dictionary. Americans speak American, similar to English but different. In the same way the Scottish speak Scottish and the Irish speak Irish.

Its just a shame you cant spell Revolution with out the letter "U" then, unless you were being facetious.

I know I was.
Oh, man, I don't know about that whole Irish thing. I'm an American, and may well be wrong, but check out The Quiet Man with John Wayne. There's a scene when his wife is talking to the preacher and tells him she can only say it in Irish, and it was an entirely different language. I'm reasonably sure it wasn't English, but I could be wrong, like I said.
 

insectoid

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Fangface74 said:
insectoid said:
Also, I do believe "check" and "cheque" have completely different meanings (one being to go over something, the other being a piece of paper worth a certain amount of money).
A Cheque is a note with the promise of money, a piece of paper worth a certain amount IS money :)
I knew someone would pick up on my terrible expression. I had a complete mind-block.
 

John Stalvern

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Congratulations Escapist. You've reached a new level of petty, infantile nationalism that I'd expect from a deep south inbred hick. Well done.
 

Jamanticus

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Labyrinth said:
I cannot help but feel my rancour rise at Americanised spelling. Really, it's nothing more than a programmed attempt to rationalise an alternate national identity. Sort of like a rebel child taking up profanity for the sake of parental disapproval, and honestly, it's pulled of about as well.

No doubt my view is coloured by experience and all the rest, but I will retain my excess vowels, my -ise and my habit of using Latin prefixes and suffixes.
Great Caesar's Ghost, Labyrinth!

Of all the things to have your rancour rise at.....American spelling? Do you truly deeply and bitterly hate American spelling?

I hope I don't have to remind you that languages do tend to become mildly more esoteric the more they develop on their own. Now that English is so wide-spread across the globe, English has been bound to break down into many different dialects for years...And it has. Note, I did not say accents, but dialects; forms of the language that each have their own peculiar pronunciation, vocabulary, and grammar.

If you think that America is the only country which has a different version of English from Britain, you are very mistaken and need to visit more English-speaking countries on this planet.

Yes, there was a linguistic reform movement in America that Noah Webster hoped would catch on in the 1800s. Parts of it did end up sticking. Admittedly, he started this reform with the hope that his new books and dictionaries would be able to educate American youth better than the paper volumes that were from Britain. He saw many British-spelled words as overly complex, and 'corrupted by the British aristocracy.' Not my view on things, but you must admit he did have good intentions.....Mind you, this desire for simplification was before the rest of the world viewed citizens of the US as a hive of blathering, capitalist fools.

In summary, you can't blame blame America for fiddling around with the English language a bit. Yes, it has grown to be different from British English, but America is after all across the Atlantic Ocean from England. It is my belief that, even if Britain had never lost its sovereignty over the United States, people here on the North American continent would still have changed the spelling and pronunciation of English on this western side of things. It just strikes me as one of those inevitabilities, since there is such a large geographical gap between England and the US.

Darn it, now my ire (not rancour, as I really don't deeply hate you) has risen over the recent increase in yours.....

Now, for my response to the OP

Without any hint of reservation, I say to you that I would take British spellings over US spellings any day of my life and make sweet love to those cultured and elegant letter arrangements. The current way of spelling in the US has taken the English language and made it utilitarian, which is very good for expedient communications, but not as complex and interesting as the British way of spelling. I mean, British spellings really do have that old-fashioned air to them that makes them inimitably charming. Something about the Anglo-Normal flair in British spelling that makes one fall in love with it.
 

Labyrinth

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Sane Man said:

Jamanticus said:
Alas, that hyperbole and satire are missed online.

In truth, it's just a matter of habit. I don't genuinely despise either, though if someone tries to correct my British spelling it gets a bit annoying.
 

Twilight_guy

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Being for the US. I am obligated to say that I like the American version. I like to think of it as the US angrily shaking its fist at England and saying "Fuck you, were going to spell it color, take that!"
 

Alex_P

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S.H.A.R.P. said:
sulphur ? sulfur
aeroplane ? airplane
favourable ? favorable
anaesthesia ? anesthesia
liquorice ? licorice
cheque ? check
analyse ? analyze
arse ? ass
Usually, simplicity is elegance.

I find the American versions of most common words preferable. They're closer to the American phonetic pronunciation, which I consider to be crisper and clearer (I like actually saying the "h" in "historic", for example, or using the sharper "z" sound in "analyze"). I dislike the British versions of words like "colour" and "analyse" because, well, I just think they're uglier.

There are many words for which I think spelling variances are just fine, though. E.g. archeology and archaeology, sulphur and sulfur, judgment and judgement. I'd rather not have two English dialects with all kinds of mismatched rules about which words to use, though. These things should be like Oxford commas -- a matter of personal style.

-- Alex
 

Bobojo11

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i believe that in all things being simple IS being elegant. its always more impressive to be able to do something without expending too much effort than to do the same thing with lots of time and energy wasted.
 

Rolling Thunder

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Bobojo11 said:
i believe that in all things being simple IS being elegant. its always more impressive to be able to do something without expending too much effort than to do the same thing with lots of time and energy wasted.
I take it you've never seen Vienna.
 

jezz8me

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I am an aussie but i speak and write in what you would call UK English. What annoys me the most is when people pronounce words like arse with a nasaly a sound (ass) instead or how it is clearly meant to be pronounced through spelling with ar sound.