cdstephens said:
randomsix said:
SacremPyrobolum said:
Space is infinite, therefore everything you can think of is out their somewhere.
It like the infinate amount of monkeys typing on an infinate amount of keyboards will at some point get you a complete library of all the books ever written.
Do you agree with this?
Were you at my physics talk last thursday?
OT: No, there are some things that cannot exist given infinite contiguous space given our current laws of physics. For example, a four sided Euclidean triangle cannot exist, along with other contradictory things.
But stuff other than that, such as all conceivable matter configurations, are not only possible but required.
chadachada123 said:
Womplord said:
Actually you only need one monkey and one typewriter...
Infinity of both would mean instant creation of the library, or creating it in the shortest amount of time that it can be typed.
However, I guess everything is 'possible'. In any case, even if everything is "possible", it doesn't mean everything exists. Also, the size of the universe is not known, and could actually be infinite, just sayin'.
Our universe has a particular size, or at least, is finite. It is possible that other "universes" (if our universe is simply a false-vacuum) exist, but ours would never intersect them. Ever.
Depending on your view on the end fate of the universe, however, the vacuum energy in our universe could eventually create a singularity, in the form of another Big Bang.
Metaphysics, meh.
The universe is (almost definitely) not infinite, just freaking huge.
According to the most widely accepted understanding of our universe (not the visible universe, but including what it is "expanding" into) both matter and space are infinite.
Something that's infinite can't expand. The universe has a theoretical size, and many credible theorists hold the belief that the universe could be finite and unbounded. For an example, the Earth itself is finite, but on the surface it is unbounded as everything is connected.
I was going to make arguments about how infinite matter meant infinite gravity, but realized that wouldn't make too much sense considering that a gravitational field travels at the speed of light.
Not true. Take the full hotel example: I have a hotel with an infinite amount of rooms, all full up, numbered 1,2,3...
If an infinite number of new people come and ask for rooms, I can give them to them. What I do is move every tennant at room #n to room #(2n). Now only the even rooms are full. So I give the infinite number of odd rooms to the new people. I have effectively "expanded" infinity, though it is still infinity.
The technical evidence:
http://arxiv.org/PS_cache/astro-ph/pdf/0207/0207199v1.pdf
http://www.nature.com/scientificamerican/journal/v288/n5/pdf/scientificamerican0503-40.pdf
http://www.nature.com/scientificamerican/journal/v271/n5/pdf/scientificamerican1194-48.pdf
This one is more accessable:
http://www.nature.com/scientificamerican/journal/v288/n5/pdf/scientificamerican0503-40.pdf
They're TL;DR?
All evidence points towards space being flat. That's one of the things that comes out of what those guys who won the nobel prize in physics for a couple weeks ago.
Also:
Even if the gravitational field traveled at the speed of light, it falls off at r², and also at sufficiently large distances, the force from mass from one side would be the same as the force from mass from the other side.