Poll: Fallout 3 opinion Research ( Please come and answer this)

[Do4600]

I thought it was a good game, but it just didn't feel like a Fallout game to me. The tone was wrong, the main story was bad, and many of the side quests were bad. It was just hokey. They really poured on the sentimentality. Even from the start: "Oh my Catherine look at our beautiful child, OH DEAR GOD NO CATHERINE! MY WIFE IS DEAD!!!! Bible passages to describe hope!! THIS IS THREE DOG HERE TO TELL YOU HEARTWARMING STORIES! A widowed old woman in a cabin longing to play her long lost violin and finally, regrettably, Little-fucking-Lamplight. Hokey, hokey, hokey.

I'm too cynical to take that at face value, it felt soooo contrived and weak and because that was the only positive emotion in the game it felt like everybody was walking into a gas chamber singing row row row your boat and trying to keep a smile on their face and failing miserably. That got dark fast.

 

[Kathinka]

It was allright. Good even. But it just wasn't Fallout. As a huge fangirl of the originals, it left me somewhat disappointed, lacking the dark humour and brilliant wit of the originals.

 

[pandorum]

You are aware that your voicing your OPINION as fact right?

I am voicing some facts and some opinion. The opinions I voice are explained through certain critical standards.

New Vegas was a good attempt but the story is nothing more than flat

How do you describe flat here?

and lets not forget they promised a definitive end to the game not just some slide shows for an ending. They gave us a shit bunch of slid shows that had all the bad voice actors read the script instead of Ron Perlman, the story never goes anywhere and its a shit premise.

But there was a definitive ending to the game. The lands that had been warred over by the different factions were brought peace by one of the factions defeating the others definitively with the player's help. That's certainly more definitive than Fallout 3's "the maguffin has been used - end of game."
And let's not forget that Fallout 3 had slides at the end as well, it's just the slides in Fallout 3 were pointless and only changed depending on two factors, your karma level and your final choice (sacrifice yourself or your companion).
The slides in New Vegas told you how your actions had influenced almost every single prominent NPC, faction and sub-faction within the game. To say the story didn't go anywhere is completely untrue.

And like I said to the other guy, the "death of the post apocalyptic old west" is a more nuanced and complicated premise than "things are bad, use Liam Neeson's magical artifact to fix them

If you think that makes it shit that's your business.

Nothing you do matters as you dont get to experience the choices made.

If by "you don't get to experience" you mean you don't get to keep playing after the credits then yeah. But bear in mind you don't get to experience the choices made in Fallout 3 because even if you can keep playing after the end, they literally don't have an effect (bear in mind also that you have to pay for the privilege to keep playing after the end). What you do does matter because even though you don't get to experience the effects first hand you are informed of the consequences of your actions.
No consequences to your actions is not superior to there being consequences that you are informed of second hand.

At least the tried in 3 with broken steel and had some success but could of done it better. This is my OPINION with some real facts about the fake promise about the ending, look it up.

If by "fake promise" you mean this
http://archive.news.softpedia.com/news/Fallout-New-Vegas-Has-A-Definitive-Ending-153219.shtml
Then they absolutely did deliver.

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[pandorum]

You are aware that your voicing your OPINION as fact right?

I am voicing some facts and some opinion. The opinions I voice are explained through certain critical standards.

New Vegas was a good attempt but the story is nothing more than flat

How do you describe flat here?

and lets not forget they promised a definitive end to the game not just some slide shows for an ending. They gave us a shit bunch of slid shows that had all the bad voice actors read the script instead of Ron Perlman, the story never goes anywhere and its a shit premise.

But there was a definitive ending to the game. The lands that had been warred over by the different factions were brought peace by one of the factions defeating the others definitively with the player's help. That's certainly more definitive than Fallout 3's "the maguffin has been used - end of game."
And let's not forget that Fallout 3 had slides at the end as well, it's just the slides in Fallout 3 were pointless and only changed depending on two factors, your karma level and your final choice (sacrifice yourself or your companion).
The slides in New Vegas told you how your actions had influenced almost every single prominent NPC, faction and sub-faction within the game. To say the story didn't go anywhere is completely untrue.

And like I said to the other guy, the "death of the post apocalyptic old west" is a more nuanced and complicated premise than "things are bad, use Liam Neeson's magical artifact to fix them."

If you think that makes it shit that's your business.

Nothing you do matters as you dont get to experience the choices made.

If by "you don't get to experience" you mean you don't get to keep playing after the credits then yeah. But bear in mind you don't get to experience the choices made in Fallout 3 because even if you can keep playing after the end, they literally don't have an effect (bear in mind also that you have to pay for the privilege to keep playing after the end). What you do does matter because even though you don't get to experience the effects first hand you are informed of the consequences of your actions.
No consequences to your actions is not superior to there being consequences that you are informed of second hand.

At least the tried in 3 with broken steel and had some success but could of done it better. This is my OPINION with some real facts about the fake promise about the ending, look it up.

If by "fake promise" you mean this
http://archive.news.softpedia.com/news/Fallout-New-Vegas-Has-A-Definitive-Ending-153219.shtml
Then they absolutely did deliver.

I appreciate your opinion on the matter, but where as Fallout 3 was a New start for the franchise, brining it to the main stream of gamers that never heard of it and did a lot right, it really messed up with the slides for an ending, I mean massive robot killing everything endgame was amazing. Fallout New Vegas had an amazing premise but had a really shocking lacklustre start, middle and end no matter which side you chose as the sliders which I might add pissed off a lot of people were back, the fact that you were a lonely Courier who gets shot in the head and then becomes a killing machine bad ass through magical plot device. Now I never mentioned the magufffin of the water as a positive in Fallout 3. You cannot surly think that being born to become the Badass Saviour/asshole is worse then now you are because of revenge, when you could not stop them from capturing you at the start, I mean 3 guys really? You kill thousands and lets not start with the bullshit oh now he wares different clothes he is an enemy even though you are famous. Fallout 3 was by no means perfect but was an epic try, New Vegas had the opportunity to be amazing and really develop on the strengths of the first, it failed to deliver the same WOW factor that 3 did, the fact that we still have these debates proves it did not do as well as it should of in making the sequel, now I am aware that you can never please everybody and there are those that will defend their favourite no matter what. As someone who has played both more times that I can count 3 is the better package overall the Capitol wasteland is an amazing setting with great atmosphere and the random encounters and little worlds like the blood drinking cannibals and the Republic of Dave are great gems to name a few, did the story fall flat at the end? Yes it did, but NV was flat from the start and only picked up midway for a short time before being flat again, it did however have a more fleshed out companions then 3 but it was a sequel thus so it should of, that is a plus but it failed to deliver the impact of 3, the journey of 3 is better. DISCLAIMER: this is a discussion using opinions with facts, fanboys/girs not welcome.

 

[Doom972]

This game blew my mind. Seeing the world of Fallout coming to life this way was something I thought I'll never get to experience.

 

[bluepotatosack]

It was what made me go out and get a PS3 (didn't have a PC at the time) because I was a huge fan of the first 2. It's a pretty good game, but hugely disappointing as a Fallout game. NV was the true successor in my eyes. There were just far too many things about the narrative that made little to no sense. I mean, people had already formed settlements ranging from small towns to cities and were growing their own food in the first game. 100 years later than that and the characters in 3 don't have their shit together anywhere near that well.

 

[Czann]

Great game. Being able to walk around the wastes in 3D is still amazing and with mods to correct bugs and implement new stuff it gets even better.

 

[WhiteTigerShiro]

Maybe Fallout 3 is better, maybe New Vegas is better. Either way, I put over 200 hours into both games (each), and could easily see myself putting-in more.

 

[MassiveGeek]

Fallout 3 is my all time favourite game. I've started replaying it just recently, and my opinion hasn't changed one goddamn bit.
That is not to say that it's a flawless, perfect game, it most certainly isn't, it has a lot of faults that many people seem to take issue with, but for me... I don't know. I just love it. It's a damn good game.

I suppose it's the immersion. I do really get sucked right into this game, I could play just Fallout 3 for a whole year and be content I think. What I do know for sure is the exact moment when I fell the hardest for this game was when

Spoiler

I was in Underworld, taking to Carol, and she was telling me her life story. Especially this quote:
"But the strangest thing... There was his shadow, burned into the wall, so crips and clear... like he was standing next to me. The heat had burned it into the concrete." [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R2f5tHqCRZE]