I prefer the gameplay and story of New Vegas but I like the map and setting of 3 more, I think overall I like 3 the most if I have to pick one, the Capital Wasteland was simply more fun and interesting to explore.
Wait, are you saying that because Vegas had less story it was better?oplinger said:New Vegas, it's just a better experience. Fallout 3 had a story for every area if you looked hard enough. New Vegas has plenty of useless places. That and the gameplay, and the fact that somewhere, something can, and will, murder you. It just made it a better game overall I thought.
Crap are you serious?? It's based off the old Las Vegas. Damn...I was looking forward to the strip that I'm familiar with.Ultratwinkie said:they used the 50s vegas, which does NOT have the big casinos and is more spaced out. It was all 1 story motels and 5 story casinos.Thunderhorse31 said:This, almost exactly. Plus, I was extremely, painfully disappointed with The Strip. I mean, Fallout 3 is set in D.C. and was full of recognizable landmarks, so I guess I wrongly assumed Vegas would be the same way. All we got was a mini version of the Hoover Dam, and some poorly fabricated casinos that bear little to no similarity to anything in Las Vegas. I get that this is "New" Vegas, but c'mon, that was pretty weak.MiracleOfSound said:Fallout 3 - by far.
(the following is a rant I made elsewhere a while back)
I've been playing New Vegas a lot and now have 2 and a half playthroughs done, about 100 hours in total. After this short amount of time, I feel like I've seen everything the game has to offer. Most map markers are hugely disappointing, consisting of shacks with nothing but an empty bottle, a campfire on a hill, an airport terminal with nothing but two cases of caps and some radscorpions, a few caves with not a single piece of loot or backstory in them... it feels so empty compared to the Capital Wasteland which had something new, unique and interesting over every hill.
There are no huge, detailed interiors like Nuka Cola Plant, Capital Building, Red Racer Factory, Springvale Elementary, Roosevelt Academy, The museums of History and Tech, National Archives, LOB Industries, Hubris comics... this was my favorite part of fallout 3 and all we have in New Vegas are a few vaults, 4 Casinos, Repcomm and an empty sewer
And then there's the atmosphere... Fallout 3 was haunting, beautiful and soulful. Standing on a ruined flyover watching the sun set over the burnt out forests and ruined Washington monument was just sublime. Nothing in Vegas gave me that same feeling or immersed me in its atmosphere like f3 did at any given moment. Just sand, sand, red rocks and more sand.
Regardless if I started in the vault or in the wasteland or on the moon the whole set up destroyed my connection with the character. It doesn't feel like mine. And that has had a negative impact on my roleplaying experience. I feel about connected to her as I do to almost any JRPG protagonist.Ultratwinkie said:Couriers move from place to place, and from dialogue the courier is Californian born and that's where his contacts are.squid5580 said:Exactly. I know no one including my character. Which makes no sense either because I was in the wasteland for what 20 years? Should have at least made 1 friend in that time. Everyone else seems to have. But no gotta go with the cliched amnesia ploy. And since the Dr is some master plastic surgeon no one will ever recognize me now.Ultratwinkie said:That's the thing, you're in the wasteland now and not in a vault. In the wasteland, you know no one.squid5580 said:It doesn't. With Fallout 3 I was attatched to my character. It gave me the feeling I was with them throughout their lives. I was invested in them. They were mine. This one I feel like I am playing some yutz who has been shot in the face. Made worse by the whole initial character set up. I am not looking for realism or anything but that was insulting and created a big disconnect between me and my character. And there is nothing that can repair that. It destroyed any chance of roleplaying I would have had. So now I am just going through the motions. The only thing that is keeping me going is curiosity.Ultratwinkie said:You are giving yourself motivation, and you have to do the detective work. Role-play dog the bounty hunter and see if that helps.squid5580 said:I would rather play NV because I have already invested 200+ hours into Fallout 3 and seen pretty much everything the game has to offer. With that said I am struggling to get into NV. I hate the opening. I don't care about my character like I did with 3. And I really haven't been given any clear directions on what to do or why I am doing it other than revenge. And that is not good motivation.
I am digging hardcore mode though.
The fallout games are meant to be somewhat cheery. At least that's the impression I got from Fallout 1 and 2, I didn't get very far in either of them but they seem to play around with the idea of a post-apocalyptic society while still being able to mess with your emotions occasionally.NicotineStainedSoul said:Way too cheery. Morally ambiguous maybe, but still a rose tinted view of an apocolyptic society.
EDIT: (One more point against NV, Invisible walls...jesus christ they were atmosphere breaking)