Poll: Fame < Infamy

[Dragon_of_red]

Well, i was looking through my itunes, when i saw this song, Fame < Infamy by Fall Out Boy, and i thought to myself, well, that is true, More people know Hitler and Osama Bin Laden than Brad Pitt or Angelina Jolie, but i asked one of my friends and he dissagreed with me, saying that ther are more famous people in the world, there has to be more people who know more celebrities than evil dictators, so i am posting this to see what you all think, is Fame < Infamy, or the other way round?

Heh, too make this more clear, Are Infamous people more well known around the planet than Famous people or not...?

EDIT: and for famous people you could have saints, like Jesus, Mother Teresa or Martin Luther King...
(thanks to Jaga Jazzist for telling me that)

 

[mcgooch]

Well you can certainly create a more widely known legacy by being infamous i.e. A band called the feelers are famous in New Zealand but not many of you will of herd of them where as you've all herd (I hope) of President Robert Mugabe. Perhaps not the most fair example but I was getting at the fact that their both from relatively small countries.

 

[Jaga Jazzist]

I think it's interesting that the first people you though of when you saw the word 'fame' was Brad Pitt or Angelina Jolie (people who have been in films that a lot of people have seen) and yet for 'infamy' you've picked Hitler and Osama Bin Laden (people responsible for mass killings and terror).

Hitler and Osama Bin Laden were well known for completely different reasons, so I think if you were wanting to compare them to 'famous' people then I think people known for humanuitarian work, such as Mother Teresa or Martin Luther King. Or if you want to go the other way and just find people that are well known but not well liked (like Uwe Boll or Paris Hilton). But otherwise I think your comparison is a little unfair.

 

[Dragon_of_red]

I think it's interesting that the first people you though of when you saw the word 'fame' was Brad Pitt or Angelina Jolie (people who have been in films that a lot of people have seen) and yet for 'infamy' you've picked Hitler and Osama Bin Laden (people responsible for mass killings and terror).

Hitler and Osama Bin Laden were well known for completely different reasons, so I think if you were wanting to compare them to 'famous' people then I think people known for humanuitarian work, such as Mother Teresa or Martin Luther King. Or if you want to go the other way and just find people that are well known but not well liked (like Uwe Boll or Paris Hilton). But otherwise I think your comparison is a little unfair.

Heh, i didnt really think of that too well did I? And they just happened to be the people that popped into my head as famous, and Hitler and Osama Bin Laden still are infamous, for being dangerous but i will change my OP to include Martin Luther King and Mother Teresa, thanks for your input...

 

[Kiutu]

When does anything Fallout Boy do or say matter? And reallt, it is just a matter of doing GREAT things, be it good or bad. But the time matters too. Great men who did heroic things do not pop up as much as it did in times and places where constant war was, such as Sengoku period of Japan.

 

[NeverAiling]

None of the great things will make you famous. If something is worth doing, it's probably evil.

 

[ParkourMcGhee]

In a fight between Jesus and Hitler, I'm sure Hitler would win, even IF Jesus can cast reincarnation on himself.

In Oblivion do you have more fun going around as a proud mage guild leader and owner of houses in every city... or as the gray fox free to do whatever you like .

It's very very simple, ignoring the fact that you chose the most feeble comparison possible, but infamous people are usually a lot more powerful to have overcome the wills of most people in the world to do what they want to and you have to at least give them credit for that.

However having said that I wouldn't really want to find myself on the deck of a pirate ship or in a seedy tavern somewhere in the middle ages so I say 'infamy' but then take two steps away and whistle pretending I didn't hear anything.