Poll: FanFiction, your opinion

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GreatTeacherCAW said:
I hate it with a passion. I have yet to come across anything that is written above a 3rd grade level.
Try this one and see if it doesn't change your mind. It's one that I wrote, and I've been praised for my writing on this very site, specifically dialogue, so I can guarantee this is written above a 3rd grade level (I studied English Literature at A-Level, after all...).

Repetition. That was the worst part. The same routines over and over again. Trying to find a way out. Trying to survive. For Tom, it was nothing like his life so far. He'd always been used to everything changing every day, new assignments and operations to plan, recruits to train, and orders changing all the time. True, military life was all about routine. But at least they varied. Not like this. He couldn't bear it any more.

Tom-B292. That was how they knew him. They who had looked up to him ever since joining the outfit. He was their mentor, their role model - and now he would be their leader. The younger Spartans had trained under Tom for years and now their commander was missing, presumed dead. They were stuck in a strange place, something the mysterious doctor kept referring to as a 'Dyson Sphere', whatever the hell that was. Every day they'd spent trying to escape, or looking for food and shelter and warmth. Something to help keep them all alive. And there were the frozen bodies too. The other SPARTAN-IIIs, trapped in cryogenic storage, but neither dead nor alive. From what Doctor Halsey had explained to them, the other Spartans knew that their comrades-in-arms were in Slipspace. Incredible, but true. It made no sense to any of them, but then again, they were just soldiers.

Looking at the others as Chief Petty Officer Mendez, now acting CO, tried to get a fire going, Tom thought back to the days when he was still a child, before he'd ever heard of the SPARTAN project. It had been a long way from here, the 'shield world' that these (what had Halsey called them? 'Forerunners') had built, and the cave the group was now hiding in. Uncertain of the local flora and fauna, the group had made their way through a series of valleys in the mountains of this world, hiding during the day and travelling at night, attempting to keep ahead in case any of the Covenant had succeeded in following them through the portal they had used to get here. Not knowing, of course, that there were no more Covenant to follow them. Not after Kurt's sacrifice.

Tom was reminded of the camaraderie he had felt back then, back in his early days. He'd been born on a distant world in the Outer Colonies. Tom had visited so many worlds since then, he could barely remember it now. While he was barely more than a child, his homeworld had been attacked by the Covenant. He'd watched through the windows of a UNSC ship as Covenant cruisers and destroyers had swarmed the planet. He'd seen the bulbous dropships as they flew down to the surface, filled with vicious Brutes and Elites, Grunts and Jackals, fully prepared for the massacre they were about to inflict upon a terrified populace. Tom had been there when the Covenant ships opened fire, raining down plasma and fire on the place he had known as home. When the onslaught had ended, and the evacuation ships were making their way out of the system to safety, nothing was left but glass and ash. Tom knew he would never forget that day. No matter how much he could remember of his world or his family and friends, he would never lose his memories of that simple brutality. It was what drove him on through the hard times, what kept him resolute. He'd spent days after landing on Arcadia, on a safe planet, searching among his fellow refugees, asking everyone he saw if they could help him find his parents. But on the fourth day he'd given up. He realised they'd never even made it off the planet, unlike him. A fear that was confirmed when the man from the government came to see him.

Tom had been put in a small room with a group of other children, somewhere in the refugee camp on Arcadia. He recognised one or two, people he'd seen and played with back home. They were all refugees like him, some from his own world, others from different places. Looking around, Tom knew that they all had one thing in common. They were all orphans of the Covenant. Remembering those days, he thought back to the words that had been spoken. Being told that they would all have a choice, to get revenge on the creatures responsible for their families deaths. To become the best that they could be, to fight with honour and to do a great service for all humankind. Tom had been spurred by those words, but not as much as another. He could recall seeing her for the first time, and noticing a kindred spirit among these strange children and the emotionless soldiers. Comparing their differences, and their similarities. He, grubby and snot-nosed, with messy black hair, standing tall despite everything he'd been through. Barely six years old, yet head and shoulders above most of the other kids in the room. A stark contrast to her, - clean, small and pale with short and tidy black locks and a tiny figure, barely noticeable among the group of children listening intently to the big man in the shiny armour. Though they were so different, Tom knew they were the ones most inspired by what the armoured man was saying. By the soldiers standing there with him. And by their memories of what the Covenant had done to them, and those they had loved. They would be the ones to fight the hardest when they had the chance. The ones who would truly understand what it meant to be a SPARTAN.

Tom would never forget the moment he first met Lucy. And everything they'd been through since. But looking back at the past couldn't be enough. He knew, all that mattered now? was the future.

Fine, it's not brilliant, but still a damn sight better than almost everything else I've seen on fanfic websites. This is only the first chapter, by the way, as I had a mental block afterwards and haven't been ready to carry it on yet (to be fair, I do plan to continue it soon...). This one is on Fanfiction.net, for the record, which is interesting because roughly 95% of stuff on that site is utter crap. I hope my work can be considered as one of the decent 5%. There are the odd few fanfics I have read that are half decent, like a nice one based around one the extra TIPS from the sound novel Umineko no Naku Koro ni. And one of my friends does an excellent comedy one that's still ongoing, that's a mashup of Kingdom Hearts and The Weakest Link. Yes, you read that correctly. Here's the link, though be warned, it is aimed pretty much only at KH fans anyway. My friend is slightly obsessed over the series. But nevertheless, he is a pretty good writer, surprisingly enough...

http://www.fanfiction.net/s/3807417/1/bKingdom_b_bHearts_b_bWeakest_b_bLink_b

Sadly he hasn't updated for a long time. He's like Little Kuriboh when it comes to updates. Takes a hell of a long time, but when updates do come, they're pretty damn good...
 

David Bray

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Short answer: No
Long answer: Nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
 

gregitaly

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emeraldrafael said:
gregitaly said:
GamerMage said:
That's just mean,dude. We have freedom of speech and I say give it a chance. Because you're acting like a sonic fanboy that thinks Sonic 4 is crap because they made his eyes green. Stop it. ANd yes it does matter if it's well written,you jerk. Did'nt you used to use your imagination when you were a kid? Lighten up.
Way to abuse that freedom of speech by abusing another person's world, characters and story. I'm sorry, explain to me how hating an entire medium devoted to theft of another persons creation and therfore stagnating your own creative growth, is comparable to hating a slight cosmetic change to a spiky cartoon mammal? Actually don't explain it to me, I don't want to witness you butchering the English language like the rest of your FF filth.
Why is it when you literally have the ability to create anything (yes there are some constraints with the written word but whatever) and literally have the entire world as your audience (teh intarnetzorz) you instead decide to steal ideas from someone else and "elaborate" or whatever on them?
Cripes I'll lighten up when you brighten up.
No ones steals them. Most fan fics come with the warning of these cahracters are not my own if they use brand name characters from another person's creation.

Also, after talking to some other fan fic writers, we agreed that, while not always, it can be a good jumping off point, especially if you do one with an original character of your own, because then you can explore that character more outside the fan fiction.

Besides all that, isnt it stagnated creativity with how LotR pretty much defined fantasy with elves and such, and most choose not to go outside it cause they know the cookie cutter formula can net them some change with the audience that buys anything LotR inspired for a chance it can be the next LotR rather then being original? or how most Space Operas are just cooke cutter clones of Star Wars or Star Trek?
If I plagiarize on my midterm essay, but put on the beginning of it "Oh hey profffessror I like 2tatlly plagerized:, none of this work is mine lolololol r&r!" I don't think the professor is going to appreciate my lack of original work simply because I admitted my intellectual theft.
Oh you're right, putting in your own character into someone's work is a great jumping off point, as long as you also put in your own other characters, setting and story, thus making it your own work, then yes you got yourself a fantastic jumping off point!
Man your also so right about how nothing is new anymore in fantasy and science fiction. Man, George RR Martin should've realized you can't do a fantasy story without elves and shit and shouldn't have wrote his Song of Ice and Fire series, instead he should've concentrated on his SasukexNarutoxOrichimaruxThekitchensink fic. As should've Joss Whedon with his LeiaxTroi fic instead of creating firefly because "all space operas are just cookie cutter clones of star wars and star trek."
You make me sick.
 

King Kupofried

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I have no problems with the idea itself. It is just writing mixed with fandom, it is usually in good fun, it is a good way to artificially create 'more' of something that you love. Most Fan Fiction writers generally know when to keep their writings to themselves or within the confines of an area or people that are specifically dedicated for that sort of thing.

Emphasis on 'Most'.

Unfortunately what many people who do not care for Fan Fiction see are the people with absolutely no awareness of the quality of their work. The types who fill their stories with obvious author surrogates, Mary sues, Purple Prose, and gallons of angst. Who get defensive towards any sort of opinion that is critical towards their work, usually because nobody 'understands' it. Who try to show it off to random people at every chance; like say... shove their terrible Sonic fan fiction into the Gaming Discussion forum when they have absolutely no place or purpose. Just as a completely out-of-the-air example.

But as I said, those are just the unfortunate minority that get painted as the face of Fan Fiction. Most others know that they are only really writing for themselves, and only show it to those who they know will actually care; or otherwise are actively trying to improve the quality of their writing.
If someone has some idea where Master Chief learns to be a wizard and transforms himself into a skimpy dressed Bunny girl who must fend off an army of dragons; that's kinda weird, kinda REALLY weird, but hell, go for it. There's no real valid way to say people should not be allowed to do this sort of thing.
Just keep it to where it is welcome.
 

DarkenedWolfEye

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Inkidu said:
"Truly-great fanfiction" is an oxymoron at best and a paradox at worst.
That's not necessarily true. It is true that most fanfiction is bad, but if you search around, and you include the fancomics (they count) there is some pretty awesome fanfiction. I myself have written some based on Sonic the Hedgehog and a lot of people have told me it's pretty good. What I mean is, fanfiction isn't bad by definition. It just has a massive stigma attached.
Next time, why don't you try having an actual argument? It makes your point seem much more valid.
 

Koroviev

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I don't care for it, but I suppose it's a good creative outlet for devoted fans of a series. After all, just because the story ends, doesn't mean other possibilities shouldn't be considered.
 

shiaramoon

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This so-called "poll" is lacking a poll to vote in... >.>...

OT: While I openly admit that some, in fact probably most fanfiction is crappy as all get out, some of it is quite good. A good friend of mine started off writing fanfiction for Digimon before turning writing into her chosen career. For some budding writers it's a lot easier to write using a pre-created universe and/or characters as building blocks for their own stories. It's sort of like an architect starting off with actually building blocks before moving onto to more sophisticated building blocks and on up to actually designing buildings. For others, however it's just a way to vent off their barely contained fanboyism in written fantasies.... some of which are a bit scary or just plain weird.... >.>...
 

someonehairy-ish

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Tis usually just an excuse for people to put their (probably sexual?) fantasies into words. Not often a particularly cleverly thought out set of words, either.


So.
No, not a fan.
 

Zhadramekel

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I don't mind romance subplots in fanfics as long as they're semi-believable. Stuff like the Doctor and his assistants though. Just... no. Also, for any writers out there, if you can't spell, Don't. Write. Fan. Fiction. It's just irritating. For the most part though, I enjoy reading them if there's a good plot.
 

Da Orky Man

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I read it and occasionally write. Yeah, 98% of Twilight and Harry Potter fanfic is utter crap, but the Mass Effect stuff is fairly good.
 

littlealicewhite

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I am a fanfiction writer and I love fanfiction. Some of it is horrendous, and some of it deserves to be a novel on it's own. I consider it a playpen for aspiring writers; a safe, controlled environment in which to practice their skills and be judged by their peers. Some people hate it, and I suppose they have a point. Some fics have made me want to kill myself in their horribleness. But you fanfiction haters out there might want to take another look, there are some brilliant works out there.
 

ViaGalactica

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Zeroandx said:
No.
Just stop there.
Think about this.
Your not a writer.
You dont know what your doing.
Go find some freinds.
And neither are you, it seems.

I honestly don't get the hate that fanfiction gets. Sure, most of it is bad, but the same can be said for everything out there. Most sitcoms suck, but that doesn't mean there's a good one amongst the pile of shit. Most movies are just bad, but there are clearly some masterpieces out there. Hell, even with books. There are fantastic books out there, but most of them are just average.

The same can be said for fanfiction. It can be great, it can be bad, it can be disastrous. But most of the time it is just average. I've encountered some fantastic fanfiction, I can't lie. The kind that's so well written you doubt why that person is not a published author. Some will be good, some will be bad. But to say that it is all Bad and that everyone who writes it is doing it only to insert themselves in the story or whatever other dismissal fanfic gets, is just silly.

Also, fanart doesn't get nearly as much flames are fanfic. Fanartists are seen as rather cool people. But fanfic writers are the creepy, obsessed losers who have no life.

I guess my point is, don't be so negative. Not every piece is flawless, but that don't mean it's all horrible.
 

josephmatthew10

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Time for a shameless plug! For all of you fanfiction-haters (which is understandable; Stuergeon's Law and all that), there are gems to be found. Incidentally, why not check out the Zero City Saga? It's going to be a massive videogame crossover; me and a friend came up with it, and I do the actual writing. The first few chapters are kind of shaky (hint: you might want to skip the "Familiarity" chapter, seriously )but it's picking up, I feel, in quality. (Why did I write that chapter? [weeps]) Here's the link, enjoy: http://www.fanfiction.net/s/6297879/1/Zero_City_Saga

Sincerely,
Joey
 

Ensiferum

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As an aspiring author I have mixed feelings about it, most of them negative.

On the one hand it can be a good thing if it gets people started on the path to becoming a writer of their own material.

On the other hand if it's all they do then it's almost always ends up being garbage and little more than pure character theft for the purpose of making fangirls squee over their favorite characters having some sort of twisted sexual encounter.

On the OTHER hand it might be written by Squirrelking in which it falls into the "so bad it's THE BEST THING EVAR!" category.
 

Roan Berg

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I was skeptical of fanfiction.
Then I read this guys stuff:
http://priderage.deviantart.com/
I have not stopped reading fanfiction since.
 

Yokai

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The only ones I've come across that are actually well-written and somewhat worth reading are literally over two hundred pages long, and I'm not willing to read an entire novel of Tiberium Wars [http://www.fanfiction.net/s/3654039/1/Tiberium_Wars] when I could just go play Command & Conquer 3 and actually have fun.

The vast majority is, of course, utter shite, and usually earns the author a mandatory psych evaluation in my book. I avoid it at all costs.

Unless A Scotsman in Egypt [http://lparchive.org/A-Scotsman-In-Egypt/] counts, because I love it.
 

Inkidu

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DarkenedWolfEye said:
Inkidu said:
"Truly-great fanfiction" is an oxymoron at best and a paradox at worst.
That's not necessarily true. It is true that most fanfiction is bad, but if you search around, and you include the fancomics (they count) there is some pretty awesome fanfiction. I myself have written some based on Sonic the Hedgehog and a lot of people have told me it's pretty good. What I mean is, fanfiction isn't bad by definition. It just has a massive stigma attached.
Next time, why don't you try having an actual argument? It makes your point seem much more valid.
Did I ever say fanfiction was bad in that post? Reread what I typed, please. Besides, the mark of a good writer is to make his argument in as few words as possible.
 

RanD00M

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I've read good ones and I've read bad ones. But in the end it's all about how many spelling errors you can find and if it they are so bad that it must be a troll who wrote them.
 

Android2137

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I indulged in writing and reading fanfiction when I was younger. Now that I'm older, I realize how horribly written my (and other people's) works were. Still it made me realize how much I enjoy creating stories. All I needed was to understand what makes a good story and what makes a bad one. And I dare say the original stories I come up with now are heaps better than the fanfictions of long ago.

In short, it's an embarrassing, but harmless hobby. Good for getting your feet wet. Helps you find out if you like stories enough to actually learn how to make a good one.