Poll: Female babysitter charged for having sex with 14-year old boy.

[twiceworn]

A 14 year old is NOT FUCKING INNOCENT! Boy or girl, they know they want sex. If they meet an attractive member of the opposite sex, they will want their dick/vagina. This girl's not a criminal, she was probably just being nice. People calling her a "sex offender," don't know what that actually means.

By the way, I would have fucked her, too. Damn, she's fine!

14 years old also want alcohol, drugs and a bunch of other stuff. doesnt mean you should grant it to them. and that part about her being probably nice is..... sorry, but it was just stupid.


ehhh.... those people who say "i want that too" are apparently just as mature as that guy who got raped (yeah, im going to call it as it should be called). Its sad really, but it just goes to show how bad it is and why it shouldnt happen.

The thing is, if he would get an std this way, he would be in a lot of trouble. If he would get that girl pregnant he would be in a lot of trouble.... Only thats a lie, because, seeing as he is a underage - his parents would be in a lot of trouble. him? sure, but mostly his parents. There are also many others way how this could go horribly wrong, and in pretty much all cases, his parents would pay for it. There are many reasons as to why his mother has right to be pissed.

And even if nothing goes wrong, cmon, getting someone drunk to have sex is a crime. Getting a minor drunk is a crime. Having sex with a minor is a crime. So why in satans glorious name would combination of all those things, not be a crime?

We cannot grant kids "what they want" because they want it.... Doing so is immature. Everything has consequences, and while im not saying that an adult is able to see all of them... An adult is mature enough to suffer them. Something a 14 years old KID is not.

so at sixteen in a mere two years he now knows all he needs to know about the risks of sex, will be fine if he gets an std , and will have moved into his own house so getting her pregnent wont reflect of his parents?? that would be:no no and NO in that order and btw at sixteen males want sex just as much as at fourteen and if you think they are more able to handle it just look at highschool

Yeah, but you have to draw the line somewhere dude. 14? Why not 13? 13? Why not 12? Ect. ect.

16 is a decent place to draw that line because that's when you can leave school, and begin your life proper.

at fourteen if a girl hade came up to you and offered you sex would you have replyed yes? if so looking back on it when you were older would you regret it or would you feel a bit proud that you had got the are you a vergin question out if the way before finishing middle school?

Well I am 14 right now, so this is an appropriate question I guess, but then again I'm also gay so, not really a question that applies to me after all. But you dodged my point, I explained that we have to draw a line somewhere, and 16 is a pretty logical place to do so.

At 14 I'm sure several kids would say yes to an offer of drugs, alchohol, cigarettes or to go shooting strays in the estate. Doesn't mean they should get to do it.

Seriously, what kind of batshit reason for a law repeal is, "Because they want to"?

not law repeal law edit men want sex and will manipulate girls to get it so the law works for females, but tell me this if at fourteen brad pit had got you drunk and slept with you, would you be ubhappy or, LIKE ALL MEN be really happy that you had sex, same goes with other people megan fox gets a guy drunk then sleeps with him, HE IS REALLY HAPPY CALLS ALL HIS FRIENDS. its really simple you cant trick a man into having sex and make him unhappy unless your ugly so for men sex is fine

 

[zerobudgetgamer]

I happen to recall one of your non-Opera talk shows many years ago (I'm 80% sure it was Jerry Springer) talking to a boy who had been sexually active since he was 14, and actually having sex with kids his own age no less. I'm not necessarily condoning this act, but at least in this scenario, one of the two is of legal age, and moreover it's the side that carries the greater risk; switching the roles, a young girl having sex with an older man would probably not end well, simply because the girl probably would have barely heard of birth control by that age, much less was using it. Here, the woman is the older one, and I'd hope the smarter of the two and on some form of birth control.

The alcohol was certainly uncalled for, and if further evidence showed that she wasn't taking at least some precautions, then by all means, throw her in jail. But honestly, we throw so many people in jail for such arbitrary reasons, maybe we should hop off the high horse now and again and just go "You fucked up, but you didn't hurt anyone this time, so just don't do it again."

 

[orangeban]

All "Where was she when I was 14" aside...

Which makes me ask the question.. WHERE WAS SHE WHEN I WAS 14?!!!!

Guys, this is just F-ing dumb. In case you have forgotten, let me remind you about male versus anatomy.

If you're a female and you are about to have sex, you have 2 choices:
1. You want it, in which case you get moist and it feels nice.
2. You don't want it, in which case it hurts like crap, but it's still gonna happen and we call it rape.

If you're a male and you are about to do sex (that's right, male DO, not HAVE sex), you also have 2 choices:
1. You want it, in which case your willi gets big and hard and you can have sex
2. You don't want it, in which case you DON'T bloody have sex.

3.He doesn't want to have sex but she mounts him, and fondles his crotch until he gets an erection, then fucks him. In this case, the man was raped.

Or heck, she shames/blackmails/intoxicates/threatens him into having sex when he wouldn't want to normally. That is also rape.

Erections are involuntary people, that's why we get awkard boners.

 

[nolongerhere]

All "Where was she when I was 14" aside...

Which makes me ask the question.. WHERE WAS SHE WHEN I WAS 14?!!!!

Guys, this is just F-ing dumb. In case you have forgotten, let me remind you about male versus anatomy.

If you're a female and you are about to have sex, you have 2 choices:
1. You want it, in which case you get moist and it feels nice.
2. You don't want it, in which case it hurts like crap, but it's still gonna happen and we call it rape.

If you're a male and you are about to do sex (that's right, male DO, not HAVE sex), you also have 2 choices:
1. You want it, in which case your willi gets big and hard and you can have sex
2. You don't want it, in which case you DON'T bloody have sex.

It's physically impossible for a woman to rape a guy (except in weird situations which I won't get into right now, but let's just say there's a dildo involved and the girl needs to be crazy strong or have you drugged and tied...)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rape_by_gender#Non-statutory_female-on-male_rape An erection is a physiological response. Just because you don't want it to happen, it won't stop it from happening. Also, women are capable of having orgasms from rape. This doesn't mean they wanted it, or enjoyed it. It just means that their body reacted to a stimulus.

 

[TonyVonTonyus]

If I was 14 years old and I had sex with my babysitter I would ask two questions:

1:Why am I being babysat, I'm 14?
2:I wonder how long I can lie to my parent about this?

Because if my parents found out there would be a shitstorm. Now this kid probably isn't very smart because if he was his parents wouldn't have found out and this girl wouldn't be in trouble and I don't really understand the big deal. What teen says "no" to sex and alcohol?

 

[Danman1]

Tell the kid not to have sex with girls way older than him like that, since just by the fact that she had a relationship with a 14 year old shows she's not necessarily a bad person, but is kind of a loser. As for the girl let her chalk it up as a very bad mistake. Probably best if she doesn't babysit, either.

 

[karamazovnew]

Erections are involuntary people, that's why we get awkard boners.

Really? Ever got a boner when you were in danger? Someone touches your crotch and you're scared you're about to get hurt. And your Penis just think "well, I'm about to get cut, but heey, let's just go out in style!". No way man, not gonna happen. You only get awkward boners when you're relaxed or sleeping, not when you're about to get raped

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rape_by_gender#Non-statutory_female-on-male_rape An erection is a physiological response. Just because you don't want it to happen, it won't stop it from happening. Also, women are capable of having orgasms from rape. This doesn't mean they wanted it, or enjoyed it. It just means that their body reacted to a stimulus.

Look, I'm not gonna go too much into this, but adrenaline due to fear and erections just don't go together. Sure, you can have a hard on even if you don't want it, but when that panic button is pushed, your testicles get sucked up your body so fast that they pierce your lungs, and your penis goes along for the ride.

 

[4173]

All "Where was she when I was 14" aside...

Which makes me ask the question.. WHERE WAS SHE WHEN I WAS 14?!!!!

Guys, this is just F-ing dumb. In case you have forgotten, let me remind you about male versus anatomy.

If you're a female and you are about to have sex, you have 2 choices:
1. You want it, in which case you get moist and it feels nice.
2. You don't want it, in which case it hurts like crap, but it's still gonna happen and we call it rape.

If you're a male and you are about to do sex (that's right, male DO, not HAVE sex), you also have 2 choices:
1. You want it, in which case your willi gets big and hard and you can have sex
2. You don't want it, in which case you DON'T bloody have sex.

It's physically impossible for a woman to rape a guy (except in weird situations which I won't get into right now, but let's just say there's a dildo involved and the girl needs to be crazy strong or have you drugged and tied...)

She should just be laughed at for needing to show her tits to a 14 year old, not sent to jail...

Just out of curiosity, how would not wanting it protect against her shoving something(s) in his anus?

Or is this a case of, if you let a girl beat you up, you deserve to be raped?

Erections are involuntary people, that's why we get awkard boners.

Really? Ever got a boner when you were in danger? Someone touches your crotch and you're scared you're about to get hurt. And your Penis just think "well, I'm about to get cut, but heey, let's just go out in style!". No way man, not gonna happen. You only get awkward boners when you're relaxed or sleeping, not when you're about to get raped

Even if that was true, there is also...
V - i - a - g - r - a

 

[twiceworn]

so at sixteen in a mere two years he now knows all he needs to know about the risks of sex, will be fine if he gets an std , and will have moved into his own house so getting her pregnent wont reflect of his parents?? that would be:no no and NO in that order and btw at sixteen males want sex just as much as at fourteen and if you think they are more able to handle it just look at highschool

did you read the end of my post? i didnt say he would know any better. i said he would probably be better equipped to deal with it, which is PROBABLY true seeing that i can imagine how you can afford a family at age 14. you can at age 16, at least where i live, because till then you cant get a serious job.

you people really need to understand it. at age of 14 you are a kid. your parents are hold responsible for your stupid actions. there IS a reason for that.

but yeah i agree with some things you said, nobody is really mature enough to handle getting an std, and a lot of people never get mature to have kids.

then again i think it should be 18 or even 21 years old before you can pull bullshit like this out. There are far too many kids who have kids. I hardly see how tempting to make it even more is justified "because it has happened before".

my point is that men like sex, if a girl came up to you and asked for sex and she is good looking nearly all men would say yes in the reversed position nearly all females would say no, simple,

 

[orangeban]

A 14 year old is NOT FUCKING INNOCENT! Boy or girl, they know they want sex. If they meet an attractive member of the opposite sex, they will want their dick/vagina. This girl's not a criminal, she was probably just being nice. People calling her a "sex offender," don't know what that actually means.

By the way, I would have fucked her, too. Damn, she's fine!

14 years old also want alcohol, drugs and a bunch of other stuff. doesnt mean you should grant it to them. and that part about her being probably nice is..... sorry, but it was just stupid.


ehhh.... those people who say "i want that too" are apparently just as mature as that guy who got raped (yeah, im going to call it as it should be called). Its sad really, but it just goes to show how bad it is and why it shouldnt happen.

The thing is, if he would get an std this way, he would be in a lot of trouble. If he would get that girl pregnant he would be in a lot of trouble.... Only thats a lie, because, seeing as he is a underage - his parents would be in a lot of trouble. him? sure, but mostly his parents. There are also many others way how this could go horribly wrong, and in pretty much all cases, his parents would pay for it. There are many reasons as to why his mother has right to be pissed.

And even if nothing goes wrong, cmon, getting someone drunk to have sex is a crime. Getting a minor drunk is a crime. Having sex with a minor is a crime. So why in satans glorious name would combination of all those things, not be a crime?

We cannot grant kids "what they want" because they want it.... Doing so is immature. Everything has consequences, and while im not saying that an adult is able to see all of them... An adult is mature enough to suffer them. Something a 14 years old KID is not.

so at sixteen in a mere two years he now knows all he needs to know about the risks of sex, will be fine if he gets an std , and will have moved into his own house so getting her pregnent wont reflect of his parents?? that would be:no no and NO in that order and btw at sixteen males want sex just as much as at fourteen and if you think they are more able to handle it just look at highschool

Yeah, but you have to draw the line somewhere dude. 14? Why not 13? 13? Why not 12? Ect. ect.

16 is a decent place to draw that line because that's when you can leave school, and begin your life proper.

at fourteen if a girl hade came up to you and offered you sex would you have replyed yes? if so looking back on it when you were older would you regret it or would you feel a bit proud that you had got the are you a vergin question out if the way before finishing middle school?

Well I am 14 right now, so this is an appropriate question I guess, but then again I'm also gay so, not really a question that applies to me after all. But you dodged my point, I explained that we have to draw a line somewhere, and 16 is a pretty logical place to do so.

At 14 I'm sure several kids would say yes to an offer of drugs, alchohol, cigarettes or to go shooting strays in the estate. Doesn't mean they should get to do it.

Seriously, what kind of batshit reason for a law repeal is, "Because they want to"?

not law repeal law edit men want sex and will manipulate girls to get it so the law works for females, but tell me this if at fourteen brad pit had got you drunk and slept with you, would you be ubhappy or, LIKE ALL MEN be really happy that you had sex, same goes with other people megan fox gets a guy drunk then sleeps with him, HE IS REALLY HAPPY CALLS ALL HIS FRIENDS. its really simple you cant trick a man into having sex and make him unhappy unless your ugly so for men sex is fine

My god, this is some misandric stuff, we're deep in the rabbit hole now. Okay, let's take this on point by point.

Yes, I'd be frickin' unhappy if Brad Pit got me drunk and had sex with me, because I'd been raped. If he got me drunk to have sex with me, presumably so I couldn't say no, then it's friggin' rape people.

Also, despite what you think, men are more complex than, "Hur, hur, gotta find a hole to shove my dick in." See, sometimes they have reasons not to have sex, say he really doesn't like the person, or he's tired/stressed/ill and doesn't feel like it, or maybe he just says no, and the other person doesn't stop.

Bonus points for assuming no man would want sex with an ugly girl because physical appearences is all that matters in a relationship, or hell even a one-nighter, right?

 

[kickassfrog]

Lucky bastard

 

[Sangreal Gothcraft]

Nice.......

 

[orangeban]

Erections are involuntary people, that's why we get awkard boners.

Really? Ever got a boner when you were in danger? Someone touches your crotch and you're scared you're about to get hurt. And your Penis just think "well, I'm about to get cut, but heey, let's just go out in style!". No way man, not gonna happen. You only get awkward boners when you're relaxed or sleeping, not when you're about to get raped

Well, okay, I assume you want me to answer this as if I didn't have twisted masochistic desires. I'll try.

Firstly, most rape isn't someone jumping out of the bushes with a knife and going, "HAVE SEX WITH ME ASSHOLE!". Most rape is by someone you know, in your home. And most rape is one partner saying no and the other going ahead anyway. So we're aren't talking a knife and a touch on the crotch, we're probably talking about a friend giving you a vigorous rubbing, maybe even oral.

 

[kickyourass]

Can I just say that it's kinda refreshing to see a story like this involving an adult woman and an under age boy and not the other way around?
Now as for the actual case, since there was no alcohol involved and it looks like it was consensual, I don't think it's as bad as some people think it is.

 

[ServebotFrank]

The only crime about this is that she didn't have sex with me when it was my birthday. Give that kid a medal regardless. Joking aside I don't think she needs to be a registered sex offender. If she is then her life is ruined.

 

[retyopy]

To everyone who defends her:

Imagine if she was a man and the boy was a girl

A 20 year old man getting a 14 year old girl drunk to have sex with her is horrible.

Send her to jail!

But guess what? She's not a man, and he's not a 14 year old girl.

Like it or not, genders actually do have pretty big differences. A 14 year old girl confronted with the idea of sex? Usually not gonna go for it.

A 14 year old boy? He's gonna jump on that in a second. Maybe two, considering how comfortable he is.

What. The. Hell. Is. Wrong. With. You. Do you honestly believe that? I know tons of girls who would throw themselves on a good looking male in 0.5 seconds flat. And they aren't even sluts! A double standard has to be in place.

 

[karamazovnew]

Just out of curiosity, how would not wanting it protect against her shoving something(s) in his anus?

Or is this a case of, if you let a girl beat you up, you deserve to be raped?

Even if that was true, there is also...
V - i - a - g - r - a

Not sure if you wrote the first part but...

I did mention a dildo didn't I. And no, the crazy strong girl would just pin you down, not beat you up, so I don't understand your point. Also Viagra doesn't work that way. Might work as a placebo though. The "Oh no, I can't stop it now!!!" effect.

 

[twiceworn]

A 14 year old is NOT FUCKING INNOCENT! Boy or girl, they know they want sex. If they meet an attractive member of the opposite sex, they will want their dick/vagina. This girl's not a criminal, she was probably just being nice. People calling her a "sex offender," don't know what that actually means.

By the way, I would have fucked her, too. Damn, she's fine!

14 years old also want alcohol, drugs and a bunch of other stuff. doesnt mean you should grant it to them. and that part about her being probably nice is..... sorry, but it was just stupid.


ehhh.... those people who say "i want that too" are apparently just as mature as that guy who got raped (yeah, im going to call it as it should be called). Its sad really, but it just goes to show how bad it is and why it shouldnt happen.

The thing is, if he would get an std this way, he would be in a lot of trouble. If he would get that girl pregnant he would be in a lot of trouble.... Only thats a lie, because, seeing as he is a underage - his parents would be in a lot of trouble. him? sure, but mostly his parents. There are also many others way how this could go horribly wrong, and in pretty much all cases, his parents would pay for it. There are many reasons as to why his mother has right to be pissed.

And even if nothing goes wrong, cmon, getting someone drunk to have sex is a crime. Getting a minor drunk is a crime. Having sex with a minor is a crime. So why in satans glorious name would combination of all those things, not be a crime?

We cannot grant kids "what they want" because they want it.... Doing so is immature. Everything has consequences, and while im not saying that an adult is able to see all of them... An adult is mature enough to suffer them. Something a 14 years old KID is not.

so at sixteen in a mere two years he now knows all he needs to know about the risks of sex, will be fine if he gets an std , and will have moved into his own house so getting her pregnent wont reflect of his parents?? that would be:no no and NO in that order and btw at sixteen males want sex just as much as at fourteen and if you think they are more able to handle it just look at highschool

Yeah, but you have to draw the line somewhere dude. 14? Why not 13? 13? Why not 12? Ect. ect.

16 is a decent place to draw that line because that's when you can leave school, and begin your life proper.

at fourteen if a girl hade came up to you and offered you sex would you have replyed yes? if so looking back on it when you were older would you regret it or would you feel a bit proud that you had got the are you a vergin question out if the way before finishing middle school?

Well I am 14 right now, so this is an appropriate question I guess, but then again I'm also gay so, not really a question that applies to me after all. But you dodged my point, I explained that we have to draw a line somewhere, and 16 is a pretty logical place to do so.

At 14 I'm sure several kids would say yes to an offer of drugs, alchohol, cigarettes or to go shooting strays in the estate. Doesn't mean they should get to do it.

Seriously, what kind of batshit reason for a law repeal is, "Because they want to"?

not law repeal law edit men want sex and will manipulate girls to get it so the law works for females, but tell me this if at fourteen brad pit had got you drunk and slept with you, would you be ubhappy or, LIKE ALL MEN be really happy that you had sex, same goes with other people megan fox gets a guy drunk then sleeps with him, HE IS REALLY HAPPY CALLS ALL HIS FRIENDS. its really simple you cant trick a man into having sex and make him unhappy unless your ugly so for men sex is fine

My god, this is some misandric stuff, we're deep in the rabbit hole now. Okay, let's take this on point by point.

Yes, I'd be frickin' unhappy if Brad Pit got me drunk and had sex with me, because I'd been raped. If he got me drunk to have sex with me, presumably so I couldn't say no, then it's friggin' rape people.

Also, despite what you think, men are more complex than, "Hur, hur, gotta find a hole to shove my dick in." See, sometimes they have reasons not to have sex, say he really doesn't like the person, or he's tired/stressed/ill and doesn't feel like it, or maybe he just says no, and the other person doesn't stop.

Bonus points for assuming no man would want sex with an ugly girl because physical appearences is all that matters in a relationship, or hell even a one-nighter, right?

you missed the point again so ok lets go over this again, sex feels good men like sex go out and ask me if they would mind being tricked into having sex with a really hot girl and the top reply would be "why in hell would i need to be tricked into sleeping with a really hot girl" in some form or other waking up to find you accidentally slept with a really hot woman?? why cant i have that accident more is the first thought. and as to ugly i was talking about base attraction if you are in love with someone and they are 20 and you are 14 is it fair for a law to keep you apart? NO