Poll: Flood (Halo), Replicators (Stargate), or the Borg (Star Trek)?

[Steve Dark]

Replicators hands down.
But what about the Tyranids? They're similar to the flood, but a whole lot more badass by my reckoning...

Edit: Seems others got in with exactly the same idea with the 'nids a while before me... Curse my slow reply tendencies...

 

[-Seraph-]

Well, taking in consideration that Replicators can disassemble any kind of matter, wouldn't that imply that they can "devour" the Flood, thereby destroying in?

Actually the replicators cannot convert ORGANIC matter, or have never been shown to do so. They assimilate materials that are required to build blocks such as various metals and whatnot. When it comes to organic matter they would most likely use their acidic spray to dissolve it, perhaps there in using the dissolved matter for something but that is never touched upon in the show. So in theory they could destroy the flood by dissolving them, replicator spray can dissolve practically anything.

 

[Eipok Kruden]

This is the most interesting thread I've ever done. Even more so than my Covenant vs Galactic Empire Thread. So much awesome. I've already learned so much! Sweet.

 

[-Seraph-]

Well you chose a really good discussion topic. All three are easily well known in the sci fi community and their common relation to each other proves to be a rich debatable topic. Plus I love sci fi, and when dealing with sci fi that have rich universes it's hard not to go into deep discussion. (yea I said it, halo has a rich universe, so can it haters!!)

 

[Eipok Kruden]

Wow... I'm really surprised at how close this poll is. The Flood is leading by just two points. I have a feeling this thread will last for a very, very long time. I can't wait to see who wins in the long run.

Well you chose a really good discussion topic. All three are easily well known in the sci fi community and their common relation to each other proves to be a rich debatable topic. Plus I love sci fi, and when dealing with sci fi that have rich universes it's hard not to go into deep discussion. (yea I said it, halo has a rich universe, so can it haters!!)

YAY! Another person that realizes how deep and rich Halo's story/lore is.

 

[-Seraph-]

Dont alert the star trek nerds, they outnumber the gate and halo nerds 5 to 1!! we cant let them win!!

YAY! Another person that realizes how deep and rich Halo's story/lore is.

Thats because I am taking the books and all the back story into account. If I were to go by just the games....I wouldn't be saying that much save for Halo 2 which had the best and most developed story out of the 3.

 

[Eipok Kruden]

Dont alert the star trek nerds, they outnumber the gate and halo nerds 5 to 1!! we cant let them win!!

I agree. It would be a disgrace to the Sci-Fi community in general if the Borg won this poll.

 

[Ultrajoe]

But still, who would be the dominant mind in such a merger/cooperation? (In case of Nids - nids win).

Once again: When Hive minds meet, they Merge.

Zerg eats a nid. DNA is assimilated, and... BAM. Overhive is born, the power of tyranids with the cunning of Zerg. We are all fucked. Dominance is useless, the best features of each would combine to form the new Hive Mind and neither would 'survive'. Two go in, a third comes out.

 

[Sh4dowSpec]

You forgot to include the Necromorph from Dead Space. In a fight between all four species, the Necromorph would most certainly win for several reasons.

1.) Unlike the Flood, it can infect life forms of any size.
2.) It is very intellegent, capable of formulating attack routes and strategies.
3.) Many of its infected forms also are capable of ranged attacks, making them lethal from any distance.
4.) It is capable of rapidly changing the environment--this includes everything from making floors sticky & slowing down its opponents to changing the air into poison.
5.) It has Leviathans.
6.) It can "play dead" for long periods of time, then reanimate and attack without warning.
7.) Some of its infected forms are invulnerable to all conventional weaponry.
8.) Some infected forms release hordes of tiny crawlers which latch onto an enemy en masse, quickly wearing down its defenses and killing it.
9.) It can adapt its infected forms to suit its exact needs.
10.) It uses psychological warfare to wear down its opponents before it kills them.

So yeah, the Necromorph would win.

 

[oliveira8]

Hey I mentioned them once.

But one thing that dulls me on the Tyranid is the lack..of..character. They just so...meh. At least the Zerg have the Overmind, Cerebrates and Kerrigan.

You make me a slightly less sad panda for your consideration. I don't think the Tyranids lack character...look at the old special characters. Old One Eye made me get into the Tyranids, the Death Leaper lictor has some of the best fluff I've ever read, and I read the story of the Red Terror so much that I practically have it memorized.

Old one Eye is cool, but after the 4th edition they stoped making Tyranid characters like Old One Eye and The Red Terror. They basically became The Hive.

The Zerg Swarm has a bunch of cool characters, that makes the Zerg more..hhmm...interesting then just "WE BE DA MONSTERS IN DIS STORY! WE EAT PLANETZ NOW!" of the Tyranid.

Editont say that the Zerg are just a rip off of the Tyranid, if not I'll just say that every assimilating race is a rip off of the Cybermen of Dr. Who. ^^

 

[-Seraph-]

1.) Unlike the Flood, it can infect life forms of any size.

Flood can too

2.) It is very intellegent, capable of formulating attack routes and strategies.

Flood can too

3.) Many of its infected forms also are capable of ranged attacks, making them lethal from any distance.

Flood can too

4.) It is capable of rapidly changing the environment--this includes everything from making floors sticky & slowing down its opponents to changing the air into poison.

Flood spores are more potent and efficient

5.) It has Leviathans.

irrelevant

6.) It can "play dead" for long periods of time, then reanimate and attack without warning.

mmhmmm

7.) Some of its infected forms are invulnerable to all conventional weaponry.

Flood spores....

8.) Some infected forms release hordes of tiny crawlers which latch onto an enemy en masse, quickly wearing down its defenses and killing it.

Flood infection forms

9.) It can adapt its infected forms to suit its exact needs.

Flood can too

10.) It uses psychological warfare to wear down its opponents before it kills them.

NO, that was the relic that did that NOT the species itself

So yeah, the Necromorph would win.

Come on now do some research before claiming such things and how would necromorphs win against machines like replicators and borg!? necros would be totally fucked against replicators alone. Read the thread and you can see why. Zombies are no match for robots.

 

[PirateKing]

I like the flood. They're just so gross and awesome looking.

 

[oliveira8]

6.) It can "play dead" for long periods of time, then reanimate and attack without warning.

So can the Zombies in Half Life 2...that doesnt mean they will destroy the Universe.

 

[Eipok Kruden]

You forgot to include the Necromorph from Dead Space. In a fight between all four species, the Necromorph would most certainly win for several reasons.

1.) Unlike the Flood, it can infect life forms of any size.
2.) It is very intellegent, capable of formulating attack routes and strategies.
3.) Many of its infected forms also are capable of ranged attacks, making them lethal from any distance.
4.) It is capable of rapidly changing the environment--this includes everything from making floors sticky & slowing down its opponents to changing the air into poison.
5.) It has Leviathans.
6.) It can "play dead" for long periods of time, then reanimate and attack without warning.
7.) Some of its infected forms are invulnerable to all conventional weaponry.
8.) Some infected forms release hordes of tiny crawlers which latch onto an enemy en masse, quickly wearing down its defenses and killing it.
9.) It can adapt its infected forms to suit its exact needs.
10.) It uses psychological warfare to wear down its opponents before it kills them.

So yeah, the Necromorph would win.

Damn it... You guys beat me to it.

 

[oliveira8]

You forgot to include the Necromorph from Dead Space. In a fight between all four species, the Necromorph would most certainly win for several reasons.

1.) Unlike the Flood, it can infect life forms of any size.
2.) It is very intellegent, capable of formulating attack routes and strategies.
3.) Many of its infected forms also are capable of ranged attacks, making them lethal from any distance.
4.) It is capable of rapidly changing the environment--this includes everything from making floors sticky & slowing down its opponents to changing the air into poison.
5.) It has Leviathans.
6.) It can "play dead" for long periods of time, then reanimate and attack without warning.
7.) Some of its infected forms are invulnerable to all conventional weaponry.
8.) Some infected forms release hordes of tiny crawlers which latch onto an enemy en masse, quickly wearing down its defenses and killing it.
9.) It can adapt its infected forms to suit its exact needs.
10.) It uses psychological warfare to wear down its opponents before it kills them.

So yeah, the Necromorph would win.

Damn it... You guys beat me to it.

You could have left it. ^^

Edit: The Flood seem interesting actually, didnt actually think that the Halo backround had so much to it. Maybe someday I'l be bothered to play again Halo 1 and pay attencion to the plot.

 

[Simriel]

First off to clarify, the original replicators, the first ones to ever exist were made by the Alterans (Ancients) as a means to fight the Wraith....which went horribly wrong. Although you are right about the first replicators to exist in the milky way.

Anywho I voted replicators as they are a near unstoppable technology that can only be beaten by conventional means, well only for the simple "bugs". The Nanite ones are pretty much invincible and their weakness is pretty much the reverse of their less advanced counterparts.

The were so dangerous that they had the power to wipe out the Asgard who are comparable to the Ancients even the Forerunners. The flood would lose by all accounts in any fight with the replicators and the replicators have one HUGE advantage the flood dont. The flood need sufficient biomatter to keep their numbers up and to survive. The Replicators evolved to a point where they simple need matter in general to exist, they converted a whole planet into one giant replicator. They are pretty much only as weak as the materials they are comprised of and their ability to reassemble themselves is another advantage to flood dont have. Their ability to manipulate technology gives them more versatility as well. They dont need to build ships themselves sometimes, they can just take one by simply hacking it.

The flood are dangerous by all means but I just see replicators as far more powerful by all means, especially if we are talking about who would win in a battle.

The replicators in SG1, the Bug form, where created by an advanced A.I! There are in fact two completely separate kinds of replicators. The 'Bug' form created by an advanced A.I as 'Toys' that got out of hand, and the human form replicators built by the ancients for war against the wraith.

 

[Eipok Kruden]

You forgot to include the Necromorph from Dead Space. In a fight between all four species, the Necromorph would most certainly win for several reasons.

1.) Unlike the Flood, it can infect life forms of any size.
2.) It is very intellegent, capable of formulating attack routes and strategies.
3.) Many of its infected forms also are capable of ranged attacks, making them lethal from any distance.
4.) It is capable of rapidly changing the environment--this includes everything from making floors sticky & slowing down its opponents to changing the air into poison.
5.) It has Leviathans.
6.) It can "play dead" for long periods of time, then reanimate and attack without warning.
7.) Some of its infected forms are invulnerable to all conventional weaponry.
8.) Some infected forms release hordes of tiny crawlers which latch onto an enemy en masse, quickly wearing down its defenses and killing it.
9.) It can adapt its infected forms to suit its exact needs.
10.) It uses psychological warfare to wear down its opponents before it kills them.

So yeah, the Necromorph would win.

Damn it... You guys beat me to it.

You could have left it. ^^

He did it better. And I forgot that the Marker was what was driving everyone crazy. I said it was the necromorphs in the list. At least now I remember the marker and everything else. I'm a fan of Dead Space and its story and the necromorphs, but anyone who things the Necromorphs could destroy the Borg or the Flood is severely misinformed.

The replicators in SG1, the Bug form, where created by an advanced A.I! There are in fact two completely separate kinds of replicators. The 'Bug' form created by an advanced A.I as 'Toys' that got out of hand, and the human form replicators built by the ancients for war against the wraith.

Thanks for clearing that up. I've been learning all kinds of things from this thread.

 

[Eldritch Warlord]

Still, the only reason that the replicators were defeated at all was because the humans borrowed ancient technology. The same tech could probably be used on the flood to eradicate it.

The Flood was only temporarily stopped by the Forerunners committing a galaxy wide genocide/suicide, leaving them without food. The Flood survived without food for tens of thousands of years.

The Replicators were whipped out by briefly disrupting the connections between their cells. A single Flood cell can spawn a horde that would consume the universe.

My overly dramatic two cents.