Poll: Flying or Teleporting?

[Dags90]

Teleportation if I couldn't accidentally apparate into a wall and wind up in St. Mungo's. I don't deal well in cold situations, this would severely limit the enjoyment of flight for me.

 

[RMcD94]

By your defining then if someone was able to have their thoughts and memories implanted into a fake body then it wouldn't be them. I disagree. As I said that particular amount of cells would cease to exist. But what makes you, you would have an identical body. your consciousness would be in annother body. The only thing that defines who you are is your mind. If that is in a living body then you are alive. Also for the sake of this topic teleportation wouldn't have to be the breaking down and rearranging of particles. It could be opening a pocket dimension and slipping through it and reopening the dimension at the destination.

I still completely disagree with what you say though.

Your argument seems to be based on the fact that memories = conciousness. Just because a copy of you has the same memories as you doesn't mean you're the same person. Imagine if you created a copy of yourself with all the same memories as you, but you didn't destroy the original. Do you think you would live two lives in one conciousness? Or would it just be two people sharing the same memories?

Of course, if you could just teleport by creating wormholes like you said, that'd be perfectly okay. I'll assume that's the case and vote teleporting.

As soon as two clones are made, they instantly become different due to the fact that they can't occupy the same spot (which is why identical twins are different from each other).

Same memories, same body, the same person. A different person from someone who did not choose to teleport (though determinism means that he was always going to do that anyway).


There's nothing unique about a replication until time begins.

 

[Loop Stricken]

Teleportation its faster and more safe

Say that when you rematerialise inside a wall.

 

[yoda3d2]

teleportation is basically killing you, then instantly reconstructing you somewhere else, which is creepy no matter how you approach it.

not necisarilly(<---- not spelled right) teleportation could be cloning you with your memories and then killing your former body... great way to get rid of disease

 

[Flack]

Flight would be more fun, but i think teleporting would be more handy. apart from the whole " killing you, then instantly reconstructing you somewhere else" thing. If it was the type of teleporting that DOESN'T kill you then it would be all sweet.

 

[yoda3d2]

ninja'd three spaces above pretty much lol

 

[Loop Stricken]

You want to know why teleporting would suck, well, how would you like the idea of insta-killing yourself just so you can be cloned somewhere, and your clone can run about claiming to be you....ever watch the movie The Illusionist?

There would be no difference between you and the copy though. You are your memories. That's what makes you, you. Simply because you would be broken down then reassembled doesn't mean that you aren't you. No one would technically have died. I don't believe in a soul or anything else so what differentiates the teleportee the teleported?

No!

A copy is still nothing more than a copy, you would be dead and someone(thing) else would be running around with your memories, whether we're talking about a soul or not. Your consciousness would cease to be!

In the end, all that will remain of you is a pile of ash or vaporized molocoules while your clone runs around pretending to be you.

By your defining then if someone was able to have their thoughts and memories implanted into a fake body then it wouldn't be them. I disagree. As I said that particular amount of cells would cease to exist. But what makes you, you would have an identical body. your consciousness would be in annother body. The only thing that defines who you are is your mind. If that is in a living body then you are alive. Also for the sake of this topic teleportation wouldn't have to be the breaking down and rearranging of particles. It could be opening a pocket dimension and slipping through it and reopening the dimension at the destination.

I still completely disagree with what you say though.

Well if we're talking about implantation here, that's difference, I might go with that.

What I'm talking about is replication, that's why I keep using the word clone.

What defines me is my consciousness, not my memories, and even if it can be replicated, we're still talking about destroying the original.

It's like if I was to commit murder, but escape charges just because I just so happen to be a scientist that can clone that person just before I decided to stick a double barrel shotgun in his mouth, and pull the trigger.

Would I be undoing the crime I just committed? Food for thought.

Anyways, back to the whole soul thing. I don't exactly believe in a soul either, but I still wouldn't allow my conviction to end up being my undoing, especially in a matter like this...lol

I recall a story, something about teleportation systems, they may well have been called faxes. Now fax is short for facsimile, they determined that everybody who used these machines had essentially died and been replaced with a copy.
The inventor of the system teleported themself and then killed themself believing themself guilty of mass murder and that the copy was free of the sin.

Or something.

Thus did I choose flight.

 

[SUPA FRANKY]

Teleporting, as I could basically simulate flying by teleporting in the air and so on. But flying would be awesome too.

I'm a greedy bastard, so I'd probably choose both.

 

[Uncreative]

Teleportation would be more useful, but...
I don't know, there's just something about the idea of flying that's more appealing.

 

[SUPA FRANKY]

By your defining then if someone was able to have their thoughts and memories implanted into a fake body then it wouldn't be them. I disagree. As I said that particular amount of cells would cease to exist. But what makes you, you would have an identical body. your consciousness would be in annother body. The only thing that defines who you are is your mind. If that is in a living body then you are alive. Also for the sake of this topic teleportation wouldn't have to be the breaking down and rearranging of particles. It could be opening a pocket dimension and slipping through it and reopening the dimension at the destination.

I still completely disagree with what you say though.

Your argument seems to be based on the fact that memories = conciousness. Just because a copy of you has the same memories as you doesn't mean you're the same person. Imagine if you created a copy of yourself with all the same memories as you, but you didn't destroy the original. Do you think you would live two lives in one conciousness? Or would it just be two people sharing the same memories?

Of course, if you could just teleport by creating wormholes like you said, that'd be perfectly okay. I'll assume that's the case and vote teleporting.

Lol's I literally just addressed that bit in another post. I do understand where you're coming from and I would class it as cloning if an original still existed. Because then 2 entities would be exactly the same up until that point, but then they would have their own individual experiences and that would effect who they are. If on the other hand the original body is destroyed. In my opinion the only thing that makes a human, human is their consciousness. That is something that can't be destroyed as it isn't physical. So if the consciousness is successfully transplanted into another body, it doesn't matter that the original body is destroyed because the memories and thoughts that made that person who they are is still intact. The only way I would consider it the death of that person is if it changed their personality somehow.

Sorry to be the dick but you guys are overanalysing the question. I'm sure you would be most likely thinking "Holy Shit! I can teleport!" rather than, my original self died, boohoo.

 

[Angel_0A]

Yeah, stop poking holes in something that's entirely hypothetical.
You want to know how it works? Fucking magic, that's how!

 

[Loop Stricken]

Sorry to be the dick but you guys are overanalysing the question. I'm sure you would be most likely thinking "Holy Shit! I can teleport!" rather than, my original self died, boohoo.

Problems;
You would be dead and thinking nothing at all, your consciousness having been ripped apart on the atomic level. Your copy might well be so vacuous.
I'd like to think mine wouldn't.

Anyway, if I knew that's how the power worked before using it, I'd never bloody use it.

Yeah, stop poking holes in something that's entirely hypothetical.
You want to know how it works? Fucking magic, there you go.

Yes yes, let's dumb down these forums even more.

 

[Death on Trapezoids]

GWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!
I can't decide!
How fast can I fly? because you have on one hand the bone-chilling awesomeness of independent flight, but on the other the insane speed of teleporting.

For that matter, what is the range of my proposed teleportation?

 

[Mr. Gency]

Flight is ruined by science.

And who knows what'll happen if you teleport into an occupied space (which you're bound to do eventuality, even if you just graze it). Not only that but what if you can't teleport your clothes.

Anyways, I say flying (not for long distance travel, though).

 

[Omnific One]

Tough call. I'd go teleportation.

 

[Angel_0A]

Yeah, stop poking holes in something that's entirely hypothetical.
You want to know how it works? Fucking magic, there you go.

Yes yes, let's dumb down these forums even more.

You can't apply science to this shit, it's just hypothetical fun.
What exactly are you trying to prove?

 

[Loop Stricken]

Yeah, stop poking holes in something that's entirely hypothetical.
You want to know how it works? Fucking magic, there you go.

Yes yes, let's dumb down these forums even more.

You can't apply science to this shit, it's just hypothetical fun.
What exactly are you trying to prove?

That you let the people flex their grey matter explaining and solidifying their atomic teleportation theories.
And then choose flight 'cos everybody knows you generate a forcefield when you fly to stop all that air resistance nonsense.

 

[Jark212]

Teleportation, I'll be on Mars in my new space suit I borrowed from NASA...

 

[peduncle]

teleportation, and become an assassin for hire

 

[SD-Fiend]

well if the teleporting is like nightcrawler from x men evolution then ok I guess