I disagree with you on a fundamental level there. Do you think the entire point of the relationship you have with your parents, friends, ect. is sex?-Samurai- said:[...]Personally, if I can't look at you, I can't date you. And if I can't look at you, I sure as hell can't have sex with you, and sex is the entire point of a relationship.[...]
Agreed. Also as example here, I really hate the movie "Shallow Hal" for attempting a pathetic guilt based on the absurd "personality over looks, or you are a qualified douchebag".-Samurai- said:I agree. I can't stand it when those threads pop up about wether or not looks are important, and the poll always has the "I value their personality more than their looks" option as the leading choice.
Personally, if I can't look at you, I can't date you. And if I can't look at you, I sure as hell can't have sex with you, and sex is the entire point of a relationship.
[small]I can't wait to see how many times I get quoted for that. But I feel like if you don't know what I'm talking about, I shouldn't waste my time explaining it, because you'll just disagree.[/small]
Obviously he meant a romantic relationship, here. An expected strawman response though, to say the least.katsumoto03 said:I disagree with you on a fundamental level there. Do you think the entire point of the relationship you have with your parents, friends, ect. is sex?-Samurai- said:[...]Personally, if I can't look at you, I can't date you. And if I can't look at you, I sure as hell can't have sex with you, and sex is the entire point of a relationship.[...]
Even when you're in a relationship with someone and you're sexually active, the sex is merely an aspect of the relationship, not the point.
I was with you right up until the last clause. Sex is extremely important in a relationship. But if it's "the entire point", then prostitution is the solution to all your relationship needs.-Samurai- said:Personally, if I can't look at you, I can't date you. And if I can't look at you, I sure as hell can't have sex with you, and sex is the entire point of a relationship.
And when you find me an uber-ugly, obsese, deformed Betty that is genuinely sweet, funny, caring, and actually wants to be in a relationship, I'll date her. Until then, I'll just reflect upon the last relationship I had with a girl who thought she was ugly, which ended when she decided that she wasn't attractive enough to have a boyfriend and thus I must be messing with her.shitoutonme said:About physical attraction not being important when it comes to romantic relationships. Please, just stop. When you're dating uber-ugly, obese, and deformed Betty or Jack, then, I'll listen. Otherwise, it's rubbish, and you know it. I know you don't want people to think you're shallow and all, and I know you value other qualities of a person more than looks. But don't sit here and lie to yourself, and others, about it being a non-issue.
Now, I'm not saying physical attraction is the most important factor in finding a mate, but it is a key one and, more often than not, usually the very first factor to make an impression. If that's not true, humans have magically evolved while I was taking a nap, and now, I have to throw out every piece of knowledge I had about people and start from scratch.
This implies so hard that looks aren't subjective from one person to the next. Sure there are people everyone can agree are extremely attractive. Like Deschenel. But the average person, it varies from person to person who we find physically attractive.FalloutJack said:Well, here's the thing, kiddies. I cringe at some of the shit coming out of people who DON'T have personalities, so all the looks in the world aren't gonna cure that one. Looks are a bonus and desired, that much is true. I would say that some invalidate the argument if they married someone who is not so much to look at. And frankly, this thread insults any of those who do.