Poll: Fun control

[tsb247]

A ban would mean that they stop being produced and any that the authorities find would be taken out of circulation, it is not perfect but it helps.

Not true at all. A LOT of firearms are made outside of the U.S. as well. FN in belgium, H&K in Germany, Sako in Finland (I think), and Taurus in Brazil (again, I think). A great deal of firearms are manufactured outside of the U.S., and there are quite a few companies that I have not mentioned yet. A U.S. ban on handguns would NOT stop them from getting into people's hands. It would just create a VERY profitable black market.

 

[Deleted]

Its not like civilians use their guns to protect themselves. When have you heard someone using a gun on a gangster?

Here is one example of a civilian defending themself as well as co-workers using their own weapon.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/32426383/

There are countless more... All you have to do is search the internet and you will find thousands of stories like this one.

Thats actually interesting. Thanks for the link.

 

[CargoHold]

People don't have guns, people can't shoot other people. Easy.

Black market weapons? Just let the thugs shoot each other anyway.

 

[Shadowfaze]

The right to bear arms was misinterpreted. This is what they meant.

And that is how I think it should be implemented. /jk

OT: I agree with TheLoveRat.

oh thats classic. i think we should get tazers, then i would happily abuse them and zap bullies all day long, and go to bed feeling utterly happy with myself. bwahaha.

 

[tsb247]

Thats actually interesting. Thanks for the link.

Sure thing.

Sometimes self defense is necessary. If the man in the story had not been armed, this article would have had a very different headline.

 

[SomethingUnrelated]

Personally, I think that if people have weapons, people will kill. Sure, it may be presented under the facade of "defense", but that would be lying if you go on a assacre. I'm interested in the idea of letting people have non-lethal weapons, because then they can defend themselves, and not kill in the process.

 

[Logic 0]

We need to have guns to fight off the zombies with the BFG.

 

[wewontdie11]

I'm for the "Nothing Lethal" option. There are ways of defending yourself such as a beanbag shotgun, that are just as effective and don't kill people. Less guns = less people die of getting shot.

 

[Housebroken Lunatic]

While the true intentions of the founding fathers are indeed lost, I believe they included the ammendment to give the people the power to stand up against an oppresive government. [small]Is this getting too serious?[/small]

Well, considering the fact that American citizens didn't use those guns to overthrow the Bush administration when the bastard and his cohorts passed the "patriot act" (which is an oppressive act by default), I'd say that the american people has fallen from deserving the right to bear arms.

If they actually used their guns and started a few revolutions when they found out that their government is using the american military to act like nazis in other countries, then the american people might have been entitled to bear arms. But they don't, so the only natural conclusion is to take the guns away from them. : )

 

[Toaster Hunter]

People should be allowed to own semi-auto and bolt/pump action weapons if they do not have a criminal record. Yes, self-defense is an issue and people may have to protect themselves.

Bring a knife to a gun fight. Stab them when they laugh at you.

 

[Jedoro]

I'd be okay with long rifles being banned and just keeping handguns. As long as I get a nice little 1911 to carry around when I'm 21, I'm happy. Even after deciding to be a cop and looking into the job, I don't trust cops to protect me. They arrive after someone calls them, and that's only if a call even goes out.

I'm tired of all these freedoms being taken away from us Americans. We call it the "land of the free," so let's cut the crap and let natural selection sort out who gets to live to enjoy the freedom.

 

[Red Right Hand]

While the true intentions of the founding fathers are indeed lost, I believe they included the ammendment to give the people the power to stand up against an oppresive government. [small]Is this getting too serious?[/small]

Well, considering the fact that American citizens didn't use those guns to overthrow the Bush administration when the bastard and his cohorts passed the "patriot act" (which is an oppressive act by default), I'd say that the american people has fallen from deserving the right to bear arms.

If they actually used their guns and started a few revolutions when they found out that their government is using the american military to act like nazis in other countries, then the american people might have been entitled to bear arms. But they don't, so the only natural conclusion is to take the guns away from them. : )

Exqueeze me? Thats not what I said.
I said, "Guns aren't cool, fistfights are the way to go my friend."
Sorry, but I don't know where you got that from.

 

[Housebroken Lunatic]

Exqueeze me? Thats not what I said.
I said, "Guns aren't cool, fistfights are the way to go my friend."
Sorry, but I don't know where you got that from.

Fixed it! : )

Meant to quote RavingPenguin, but some left over text was still in the box. My bad...

 

[Arkhangelsk]

Everyone should be allowed to have a semi-automatic handgun in their house, but nothing more. If they're taking it outside, they must first disassemble the pieces until they've reached their destination.

I don't agree that we should own dangerous rifles or machine guns. Those are less for the defence, and more for the fun. And yes, one should be able to have fun with guns, but go to a shooting range then.

 

[Keela]

Even if someone has a criminal record, they'll will still get their hands on guns from runners and gangs. We should just take out the middle man and let every all citezins above 18 buy and own a gun.

The problem there is that most gun violence doesn't come from gangs and random criminals hanging out on the street, but from everyday people who just snap or have some sort of plan that others don't know of. Legal gun owners are often a bigger threat than criminal gun owners. What I would like to see happen (in the U.S. at least) is for people who want to own anything other than a shotgun or hunting rifle to have to join the national guard or another military branch.

Very true, but Even a pistol? I mean, like a 9mm (or smaller), used for receration of self-defense? I'd think it would be easier to defend your self with a pistol than a shot-gun, even more so when they are intruding your home.

2 (or 3, whatever floats your boat if you're American or whatever's your cup of tea if not) words: Sawed-off shotty. The pellets don't penetrate enough to be a serious danger to someone in another room or house, and anything in a narrow hallway had better pray faster than they ever have in their life. I'm pretty sure sawed-offs are legal somewhere, somehow in America, and they are extremely easy to use, carry, and point. Hell, you don't even have to be accurate most of the time!

Ah, I forgot about those. And, another point, you will look bad-ass while doing it!

Warning: third link is a bore contact wound from a shotgun, and contains graphic images that may scar your mind forevarr.

http://www.filmjunk.com/images/weblog/top10sequel_3.jpg

http://api.ning.com/files/eA*FhumF3aVQtQFgoeJPPxy2J0bYIdbw9bgzadgEsmfD*7qCwIka88niD8KljiVvkQYm5jA*kLJPFS2-49koZDeWhUaqxdiv/ash.jpg

http://www.instructables.com/deriv/FZ5/KSNB/F23Z352D/FZ5KSNBF23Z352D.MEDIUM.jpg

Damn. Straight.

 

[AssButt]

No one should have guns but the police, and then they shouldn't use them.

Someone with a criminal record may be a thief, and if a civilian has a gun...

Think about it.

Do you remember when you were a 7 year old kid excited for recess only to be told that it was cancelled because someone in your class smeared shit all over the bathroom mirror and nobody would fess up? Do you remember being angry because you were being punished for something that you didn't do? That's basically gun control.

The overwhelming majority of gun owners are not criminals and less than 0.001% of guns will ever be used to commit a crime. Gun owners believe it or not, are typically more educated and have higher incomes than non-gun owners (guns are expensive, after all).

Sure a few of them might commit crimes, but most of them don't and never will.

 

[Kuchinawa212]

No one should have guns but the police, and then they shouldn't use them.

Someone with a criminal record may be a thief, and if a civilian has a gun...

Think about it.

Do you remember when you were a 7 year old kid excited for recess only to be told that it was cancelled because someone in your class smeared shit all over the bathroom mirror and nobody would fess up? Do you remember being angry because you were being punished for something that you didn't do? That's basically gun control.

The overwhelming majority of gun owners are not criminals and less than 0.001% of guns will ever be used to commit a crime. Gun owners believe it or not, are typically more educated and have higher incomes than non-gun owners (guns are expensive, after all).

Sure a few of them might commit crimes, but most of them don't and never will.

*hifive* Yes, taking guns away from us is not solving the problem. And even if we did get rid of every legal firearm in the US, then what about the people with the unlicensed illegal guns? I mean they have to committing more gun crime then legal owners right?

 

[TheGreatCoolEnergy]

I believe that every American can and should own an automatic rifle that can fire over 100 rounds before reloading. Every American. Including the cokeheads, the criminals, and the clinically insane (and also the children. Won't somebody please think of the children?). And I believe that bullets should be dirt cheap. But the second any American should leave their country for work/vacation/whatever, they have to leave their guns at home. That would be a perfect solution right there.

How the Fuck would sopciety benifit from everybody owning a fucking machine gun? Its not like they are usefull for hunting, unless your collecting human heads

 

[TheGreatCoolEnergy]

like i ahve no roblem with rifles and handguns but machie guns are over kill

 

[jpoon]

I am all for everyone being able to own and, if trained, carry concealed weapons. Criminals generally will attack a weak spot and what weaker spot do you get then a gang of people afraid to use anything other than floppy dildos as weapons.

For all those people who think you can just magically remove guns from the equation and keep criminals from carrying you should first consider areas that do have gun restriction laws. Areas such as Chicago has seen their gun violence levels go up as soon as they enacted their gun laws some decades ago. Now they are taking this gun ban law back to court and hopefully are about to overturn their laws because they can pretty easily see that it is ineffective and punishes law abiding citizens by not allowing them to save their own asses.