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Dr Ampersand

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Are gamers more likely to hate something for no particular reason or to hate something without a good reason than non-gamers. Gamers in this will be defined as people who spend more time than average playing games or have a greater than average interest in games.

Personally I'd say yes. The fact that gaming isn't completely accepted as mainstream creates a small group of people who are gamers who think,"I'm a gamer, so I'm not mainstream,so I'm obviously special and better than everyone else who're horrible and a bunch of twats". This makes the number of "smarter than thou" people within a group of gamers a bigger percentage of the overall group than non-gamers.

An example I think stands to back up my opinion is Twilight. While a lot of people DID read it/see the movie, a lot didn't. A sizable fraction of people in the forums here were hating for the sake of hating. Also in the R&P section of this website it's not uncommon to see, "I'm political alignment X, political alignment Y is full of fucktarded rapist dreglings" in some reduced form. Respectfully disagreeing doesn't seem to be the norm, hating is.

EDIT:poll should say ,"Are gamers more likely to be haters". It isn't editing for some reason.
 

schroing

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Why, look at you, Mr. Judgmental. Why don't you get off your high horse and sit with us, all the way down here.
 

Katherine Kerensky

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As far as I can tell, the WBC aren't gamers, yet they have more hate than a lot of people combined, so I'd say no, gamers aren't more likely to hate something for no good reason. Idiots are more likely to do so, as the example I gave.
 

Rusman

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I think it's less gamers as a social group and more humans as a whole. No I am not saying that all humans are massive haters.
But I am sure you would find the same behaviour in internet forums everywhere regardless of subject matter, I mean, just look at youtube comments.
 

Dr Ampersand

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MorteSphere said:
Passive acknowledgement of dissenting opinions never got anyone anywhere.
Hating anyone you disagree with doesn't get you anywhere. Passive acknowledgment often encourages either side to investigate the reasons of the opposing side to gain a more complete understanding of the opposing argument. This can lead to either agreement or a agreement that is a compromise of both sides.
 

Tanis

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"Yes, but so is everyone else."

By your post you're being a hater because of your wordings and judgmental tone against haters.
A paradox, or just the way it is?
 

MorteSphere

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Dr Ampersand said:
MorteSphere said:
Passive acknowledgement of dissenting opinions never got anyone anywhere.
Hating anyone you disagree with doesn't get you anywhere. Passive acknowledgment often encourages either side to investigate the reasons of the opposing side to gain a more complete understanding of the opposing argument. This can lead to either agreement or a agreement that is a compromise of both sides.
Passive acknowledgement seldom does more than allow the mind to stagnate. Hatred is a very strong emotion, and zeal for your opinions makes you argue about them, which in turn forces you to further contemplate and develop them. The difference between healthy zeal and extremism is that extremists don't develop anything and don't listen to anything.
 

Dr Ampersand

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the outsider said:
Dr Ampersand said:
An example I think stands to back up my opinion is Twilight. While a lot of people DID read it/see the movie, a lot didn't. A sizable fraction of people in the forums here were hating for the sake of hating.
Prove it.

Dr Ampersand said:
Also in the R&P section of this website it's not uncommon to see, "I'm political alignment X, political alignment Y is full of fucktarded rapist dreglings" in some reduced form. Respectfully disagreeing doesn't seem to be the norm, hating is.
The entire world is vastly populated by people who all behave and think like this (consciously or subconsciously), gamers are not exceptional in this case.
As said in the edit that you may have missed due to post timing, the question is whether gamers are more likely to behave like that, not whether gamers are the only group to have haters.

And to your first point, that'd require me to search the forums which I won't since I'm feeling lazy. I'll agree though that what I said can't be proven or disproven until some can be bothered searching. Until then it's just there taking up space.
 

C95J

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Yes. I always hear LOTS of gamers complain about lots of things over and over again constantly.
 

Dr Ampersand

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tanis1lionheart said:
"Yes, but so is everyone else."

By your post you're being a hater because of your wordings and judgmental tone against haters.
A paradox, or just the way it is?
Didn't intend to hate on haters. Just wanted to say "haters are more common among gamers , confrim/deny?, I say confirm".

Looking at it again it doesn't make sense since if everyone is more likely to be haters than the norm, the norm would readjust to make everyone have normal ratios of haters to non haters in any group. I'll change the wording if the polls allow.
 

GeorgW

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I think the answer "Yes, THIS IS WHY WE CAN'T HAVE NICE THINGS!!!!!!!!!" is really spot on. I do believe gamers are a lot more demanding and judgmental than any average group, and we get crap for it. Sure, every group have their downsides, but I think specifically gamers have a higher percentage of haters and trolls. I blame the internet and our fondness of it. Present company excluded, of course.
 

Dr Ampersand

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MorteSphere said:
Dr Ampersand said:
MorteSphere said:
Passive acknowledgement of dissenting opinions never got anyone anywhere.
Hating anyone you disagree with doesn't get you anywhere. Passive acknowledgment often encourages either side to investigate the reasons of the opposing side to gain a more complete understanding of the opposing argument. This can lead to either agreement or a agreement that is a compromise of both sides.
Passive acknowledgement seldom does more than allow the mind to stagnate. Hatred is a very strong emotion, and zeal for your opinions makes you argue about them, which in turn forces you to further contemplate and develop them. The difference between healthy zeal and extremism is that extremists don't develop anything and don't listen to anything.
Hatred is often targeted on the people associated with it as opposed to the idea itself. I.e "I don't like abortion, kill abortion doctors" rather than explain why you think abortion is bad etc. It's hard to hate an idea though easier to hate those associated with it.

Passive acknowledgment, while it does lead to less occurrences when the subject is brought up, does lead to better debate being had as both sides can see the other side's points more clearly as they aren't thinking, "DIE DIE DIE". You have to have a clear cut logical argument which you need to think out while hating often has the same emotional phrases being repeated over and over again.
 

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Tankichi said:
I'd say yes. Most gamers will hate on other consoles because they just know they suck. Don't know specs and never have played them but know they suck. Gamers are actually very ignorant at times and think just because they don't like something it sucks and anyone who plays it must suck as well.
hmmm irony is there somewhere. I just can't find it
edit: 100 posts Woohoo!!
 

ZleazyA

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Honestly I'd say that trying to identify a group of people as "haters" is just stereotyping them. Gamers are just people like anyone else. There's not really a difference. People demonize gaming just like they did Rock n' roll years ago. Everyone thought that liking rock n' roll made you immediately immoral, untrustworthy, and a rebel against society. Granted, there were some people like that, but not all rock and roll lovers were like that. There were also other people who didn't like rock n' roll who actually were immoral rebels.

Basically, what I'm trying to say is I think you are trying to connect the dots between two pictures on separate pieces of paper. If that obscure metaphor made any sense.
/rant
 

Irony's Acolyte

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We geeks and nerds are a pretty tight-knit bunch. We like to assert our geekiness/nerdiness to others when we can and that usually takes the form of bashing other forms of culture that fall outside our sub-group. This is mainly a defense mechanism to help our selves feel good that we aren't mainstream and that some of our interests are thought of as weird by other groups. Altough not all of use are so vicious towards other sub-cultures, there are still alot of hate that comes out of our community. I see a lot of it here from all the people who constantly bash Twilight, Justin Bieber, Halo, MW2, and other things that are considered more mainstream. This kind of action isn't unique to our culture but it is still present.