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Twilight_guy

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I can't say no. but I can say that it's really really unlikely. Science can't prove it or disprove it so its kind of a matter of inner opinion. I'm going with probably not, but there are some creepy unexplained things that resemble "spooks".
 

Antlers

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Haunted Serenity said:
That i think i had a banshee scream at me. It was wearing white next to a lake and when i approcahed it turned, looked and me then it's face became rotted and bones could easily be seen. Then it screamed and that noise was just so not of this earth. All pitchs i could hear at once with just the pain striking me in the chest.
Oh and this!

Possible explanations:

1. You're exaggerating (possibly unconsciously) what you saw. You saw something odd and over time have built it up to be more and more strange.

2. You're lying.

3. You saw some weird old bloke in white next to a lake.

4. You were high (even though you insist otherwise).
 

PrototypeC

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I am a believer in ghosts, mainly because it's fun, and I like to believe I'm on to something that others may consider nonexistent. However, ghost hunters (99.999%) are either stupid or let their imaginations run away from them, or crafty and trick believers into giving them money. Ghost hunters and ghost hunting shows as a whole are bullshit, because they still use mediums way more than they should, and don't check the science to a satisfactory degree. For instance, they make a big deal about cold spots, most of which have a scientific explanation, and don't check for rising air currents.


Short answer: yes, but ghost hunters are bulls**t.

Oh yeah, and mainstream christians hate me for it.
 

chronobreak

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If ghosts were real, you figure there would be millions of them all over the place all the time, that they wouldn't just appear to someone alone in their room at night and such. More people would come forward and it would be much more widely explored.
 

Antlers

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PrototypeC said:
I am a believer in ghosts, mainly because it's fun, and I like to believe I'm on to something that others may consider nonexistent. However, ghost hunters (99.999%) are either stupid or let their imaginations run away from them, or crafty and trick believers into giving them money. Ghost hunters and ghost hunting shows as a whole are bullshit, because they still use mediums way more than they should, and don't check the science to a satisfactory degree. For instance, they make a big deal about cold spots, most of which have a scientific explanation, and don't check for rising air currents.


Short answer: yes, but ghost hunters are bulls**t.

Oh yeah, and mainstream christians hate me for it.
Wanting to believe in something and believing in something is not the same.

Also what makes ghost hunting shows bollocks and ghosts in general not bollocks?! They use mediums more than they should? What do YOU suggest they do to hunt ghosts? I find it utterly bizarre that you think one aspect of paranormal nonsense is correct but another aspect of it is rubbish.
 

PrototypeC

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Antlers said:
Also what makes ghost hunting shows bollocks and ghosts in general not bollocks?! They use mediums more than they should? What do you suggest they do to hunt ghosts? I find it utterly bizarre that you think one aspect of paranormal nonsense is correct but another aspect of it is rubbish.
OK, at the end it comes down to respecting someone else's beliefs. If I'm either in a boat with the banshee guy and the ones with cryptic answers that sound more like mental sickness, or in a boat with you, I choose the believers. It's because believers as a whole are accepting, friendly people, and people like you... well, if you haven't anything nice to say, bite your tongue and walk away.

But then that would take some measure of self-control, wouldn't it?
 

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Haunted Serenity said:
Abedeus said:
Haunted Serenity said:
Yes because i've seen things that can only be explained as a ghost or spirit was doing it. I know what is real and what is fake but this was just not right and seemed off...

That i think i had a banshee scream at me. It was wearing white next to a lake and when i approcahed it turned, looked and me then it's face became rotted and bones could easily be seen. Then it screamed and that noise was just so not of this earth. All pitchs i could hear at once with just the pain striking me in the chest.
Hallucinations and aqua dementia.

Also, don't get high.
i wasn't high. And i know it wasn't a hallucination because my horse crapped it'self and bolted like a bat outa hell soon as was walking towards it.
Fumes. Check for gas leaks before your horse dies from brain damage.
 

Antlers

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PrototypeC said:
Antlers said:
Also what makes ghost hunting shows bollocks and ghosts in general not bollocks?! They use mediums more than they should? What do you suggest they do to hunt ghosts? I find it utterly bizarre that you think one aspect of paranormal nonsense is correct but another aspect of it is rubbish.
OK, at the end it comes down to respecting someone else's beliefs. If I'm either in a boat with the banshee guy and the ones with cryptic answers that sound more like mental sickness, or in a boat with you, I choose the believers. It's because believers as a whole are accepting, friendly people, and people like you... well, if you haven't anything nice to say, bite your tongue and walk away.

But then that would take some measure of self-control, wouldn't it?
Care to actually answer any of the questions no?
 

PrototypeC

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Antlers said:
Care to actually answer any of the questions no?
OK, OK, Antlers. All flaming aside, I do have some answers for you.

One, I did answer your question about whether I actually believe. I had to think about it, but yes, I do. Why do I have to decide one way or the other anyway? Mainly I believe that emotions have lasting effects on the environment. I'm a little leery of quantum mechanics, but they do seem to confirm my belief. If emotions really do have an effect on the surrounding environment, then there's a lot of energy being left behind. I think that may be what people see as ghosts.

Two, I don't really think people should hunt ghosts. I'd like to see universities give serious scientific looks at these sorts of phenomena and see if there really is a link between all the various things believers state to be evidence of the existence of ghosts. Then we might get an answer... but I'm not sure if we have the tech right now to make unbiased scientific conclusions about all purported supernatural activity.
 

Aedes

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mysticite said:
Plausible, but scary. If they are real I'd hate to know what they've seen me do. |:
It's the thought of invisible beings I don't like.
No worries. They can't tell no one.
Next time you have the feeling, just ask'em: "Enjoyed the show?"

HG131 said:
Well, there is Ghost Hunters International, and they get some freaky stuff sometimes. The main Ghost Hunters show also has gotten some weird stuff. I myself think they exist. Mainly because I've had someone say "Hi" in my ear when everyone else is asleep and I was alone in a locked room. So, yeah, I belive in ghosts, *Flame suit on*.
Haha, well, I can think on a few number of things of what it could have been:
-> Wind, but in a locked room, it blows up my hypothesis.
-> A cricket chirping, but then again, you could be in the city.
-> Electricity malfunction. It can create weird noises randomly.
-> A ghost!!! But I wasn't there, I can't confirm nor deny you.

Nothing paranormal ever happened to me. Also, my father is a physicist, so I grew up believing that everything has a palpable explanation. Aside religion, you can say I'm just another one of the I-only-believe-seeing people.
Just to add one final comment, if I ever become a ghost and if I could whisper at someone's ear, I would chose something more random like "I'm horny!" or "Peanut Butter Jelly Time!". Way more hillarious way to amuse myself as a ghost.
 

Danik93

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Ghosts are as Religion... things to explain things we don't understand... believe in it or not i don't give a crap
 

Gerazzi

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I've seen but one, and I was half asleep. My entire town is also supposedly haunted and I got the eerily familiar sensation whenever I look out my window, see fog covering the landscape, and get Silent Hill flashbacks.
In all seriousness though, I've seen one once and I'm an atheist, so I don't really believe in them. Not until there is properly recorded evidence.
 

Julianking93

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Even though I'm an atheist, I still think our spirit, soul, energy or whatever goes somewhere after this.

I've never had an experience with ghosts (not to say that I haven't seen shit I can't explain that some people immediatly deem ghost worthy) but thats not to say they don't exist.

But for most, if not all ghost stories, there is a scientific explaination for it.
 

mightybozz

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Most ghost experiences are explained by an understanding of how human sensory systems work, specifically hearing and sight. The brain doesn't recieve a faithful photograph of what is in front of us from the eyes. The brain produces a constantly updated model, updated by coded pulses along the optic nerve. The brain essentially simulates what is out there. That is why optical illusions work: the sense data that the brain recieves is compatible with two different versions of reality (for example in those pictures where you can see an old woman or a young womamn in the same image). The same goes for the ears - the sound is not faithfully transported to the brain, but only turned into signals that the brain interprets and simulates.

Understanding this shows how ghost sightings and similar illusions can appear utterly real. I remember as a child being utterly convinced that my dressing gown was gently writhing on hook on the back of the door. But I never thought it was a ghost at the time, just something odd that probably wasn't real. Now I'm older I know the probable reason why that illusion was in front of me. I'd be happy to accept a supernatural explanation for it, if there were any evidence, but I see none and therefore accept the empirical explanation.
 

mightybozz

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Most ghost experiences are explained by an understanding of how human sensory systems work, specifically hearing and sight. The brain doesn't recieve a faithful photograph of what is in front of us from the eyes. The brain produces a constantly updated model, updated by coded pulses along the optic nerve. The brain essentially simulates what is out there. That is why optical illusions work: the sense data that the brain recieves is compatible with two different versions of reality (for example in those pictures where you can see an old woman or a young womamn in the same image). The same goes for the ears - the sound is not faithfully transported to the brain, but only turned into signals that the brain interprets and simulates.

Understanding this shows how ghost sightings and similar illusions can appear utterly real. I remember as a child being utterly convinced that my dressing gown was gently writhing on hook on the back of the door. But I never thought it was a ghost at the time, just something odd that probably wasn't real. Now I'm older I know the probable reason why that illusion was in front of me. I'd be happy to accept a supernatural explanation for it, if there were any evidence, but I see none and therefore accept the empirical explanation.
 

mightybozz

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Most ghost experiences are explained by an understanding of how human sensory systems work, specifically hearing and sight. The brain doesn't recieve a faithful photograph of what is in front of us from the eyes. The brain produces a constantly updated model, updated by coded pulses along the optic nerve. The brain essentially simulates what is out there. That is why optical illusions work: the sense data that the brain recieves is compatible with two different versions of reality (for example in those pictures where you can see an old woman or a young womamn in the same image). The same goes for the ears - the sound is not faithfully transported to the brain, but only turned into signals that the brain interprets and simulates.

Understanding this shows how ghost sightings and similar illusions can appear utterly real. I remember as a child being utterly convinced that my dressing gown was gently writhing on hook on the back of the door. But I never thought it was a ghost at the time, just something odd that probably wasn't real. Now I'm older I know the probable reason why that illusion was in front of me. I'd be happy to accept a supernatural explanation for it, if there were any evidence, but I see none and therefore accept the empirical explanation.
 

Fbuh

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I can honestly say that I have had more than one experience with the supernatural world, and it is something that still always jumps out at you (not literally of course).
 

mightybozz

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Most ghost experiences are explained by an understanding of how human sensory systems work, specifically hearing and sight. The brain doesn't recieve a faithful photograph of what is in front of us from the eyes. The brain produces a constantly updated model, updated by coded pulses along the optic nerve. The brain essentially simulates what is out there. That is why optical illusions work: the sense data that the brain recieves is compatible with two different versions of reality (for example in those pictures where you can see an old woman or a young womamn in the same image). The same goes for the ears - the sound is not faithfully transported to the brain, but only turned into signals that the brain interprets and simulates.

Understanding this shows how ghost sightings and similar illusions can appear utterly real. I remember as a child being utterly convinced that my dressing gown was gently writhing on hook on the back of the door. But I never thought it was a ghost at the time, just something odd that probably wasn't real. Now I'm older I know the probable reason why that illusion was in front of me. I'd be happy to accept a supernatural explanation for it, if there were any evidence, but I see none and therefore accept the empirical explanation.
 

Snotnarok

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There's no scientific proof, I've never seen one. Just because a lot of people believe in something doesn't make them right.