Poll: Ghosts.
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Some researchers, such as Professor Michael Persinger (Laurentian University, Canada), have speculated that changes in geomagnetic fields (created, e.g., by tectonic stresses in the Earth's crust or solar activity) could stimulate the brain's temporal lobes and produce many of the experiences associated with hauntings. This theory has been tested in various ways. Some scientists have examined the relationship between the time of onset of unusual phenomena in allegedly haunted locations and any sudden increases in global geomagnetic activity. Others have investigated whether the location of alleged hauntings is associated with certain types of magnetic activity. Finally, a third strand of work has involved laboratory studies in which stimulation of the temporal lobe with transcerebral magnetic fields has elicited subjective experiences that strongly parallel phenomena associated with hauntings.
I took this from wikipedia so save me writing it in my own words
I took this from wikipedia so save me writing it in my own words
i think that they could be real, and indeed i think i see people i knew that are now dead occasionally.
but then my imagination for that sort of thing is quite strong, and i'm probably mistaken most of the time.
gets creepy when i see people i don't know though...
but then my imagination for that sort of thing is quite strong, and i'm probably mistaken most of the time.
gets creepy when i see people i don't know though...
Island said:
I'm reprimanding you for not quoting properly as if someone else hadn't quoted me on this page I never would've seen this. However, it's an easy mistake so i'll forgive you.
Now, could people on this forum stop bloody trying to talk like Shakespeare all the time? I had to read your post 3 times and I still couldn't make complete sense of it.
What I meant was saying 'well anything's possible' is just... meaningless. Science never claims to know everything. Science allows for the tiniest possibility that even the most bizarre claims are possible (though often proves otherwise). Only stupid people think they know one thing 100% for sure.
That's all I was saying, and I assume that's not what you thought I was saying, because if it is your reply makes no sense.
Alright fair enough. You did answer the questions.PrototypeC said:
Just for extra clarity for me though, are you saying that ghost hunting is the wrong way to go about things? And that's where your problem lies? I thought from your first post that you were saying the methods they use for ghost hunting are all just made up for the camera. I think I may have misunderstood.
I'd like to go ghost hunting myself, but mostly because I like old buildings and photographing them. Ghost hunting is a fun thing to do; but it is NOT SCIENTIFIC. I'm so bored of this thread though... it's too depressing to think about. I guess it's one of those things up there with religion and politics.Antlers said:
Not ghosts per se, but my friend used a ouiji board in his house, and it got so wierd that he had to move house. stuff moving, voices, appliances turning themselves on, but the wierdest one was his mirror- it steamed up, but his shower was not on, and someone had scribbled on it, behind a locked door. (he was on the loo playing psp when he noticed it.)
Although I'm afraid I don't have a link to cite this...
Recent studies have shown that by manipulating magnetic fields on people, several common effects can be produced, such as making them think there's someone else in the room, out of body experiences, mysterious touching, feeling cold etc...
Also, many supposedly haunted areas areas are at points where the Earth's magnetic field lines are strongest.
So in other words, it's probably all in people's heads, caused by EM fields. That's my opinion.
Recent studies have shown that by manipulating magnetic fields on people, several common effects can be produced, such as making them think there's someone else in the room, out of body experiences, mysterious touching, feeling cold etc...
Also, many supposedly haunted areas areas are at points where the Earth's magnetic field lines are strongest.
So in other words, it's probably all in people's heads, caused by EM fields. That's my opinion.
I have in fact had a couple encounters (so to speak).
Haven't actually seen a ghost, but a few weird things have happened. Won't say about them here, cuz I don't want to sound like I have the crazies.
So, I voted "No. But there is stuff we cant explain".
Haven't actually seen a ghost, but a few weird things have happened. Won't say about them here, cuz I don't want to sound like I have the crazies.
So, I voted "No. But there is stuff we cant explain".
As long as there have been reports of ghosts (forever), shouldn't there be some hard evidence of them by now?
If they can be seen, then shouldn't they make an impact on the physical world that can be measured and studied?
But on the other hand, I did have a pretty weird experience myself once that I can't explain. My dad's company was having a company picnic. Next to the field where we all were was a graveyard. As I was eating my burger and looking across to the graveyard, I noticed a man in a nice suit (possibly a tuxedo) walking around. I figured he was visiting a grave...no big deal. I didn't really think anything of it. But then the guy got to one grave and started to lay down. That was a little weird. The grave had cement on the top of it that made it look like two small steps. It looked like he laid down right next to it so that I couldn't see him anymore behind the steps. This was also weird because the "steps" didn't seem high enough off the ground to accomplish that.
Quite a while went by and I never saw him get up and curiosity took over. So I walked over there and saw that the "steps" were far too shallow to have fully hidden a full-grown man and there were no other holes or dips in the earth nearby.
I'm still extremely skeptical of ghosts for the reasons I posted above, but that was a pretty strange experience nonetheless. Until I see some good evidence for ghosts, I am going to assume there was a logical explanation for what I saw even though I don't know what it is.
If they can be seen, then shouldn't they make an impact on the physical world that can be measured and studied?
But on the other hand, I did have a pretty weird experience myself once that I can't explain. My dad's company was having a company picnic. Next to the field where we all were was a graveyard. As I was eating my burger and looking across to the graveyard, I noticed a man in a nice suit (possibly a tuxedo) walking around. I figured he was visiting a grave...no big deal. I didn't really think anything of it. But then the guy got to one grave and started to lay down. That was a little weird. The grave had cement on the top of it that made it look like two small steps. It looked like he laid down right next to it so that I couldn't see him anymore behind the steps. This was also weird because the "steps" didn't seem high enough off the ground to accomplish that.
Quite a while went by and I never saw him get up and curiosity took over. So I walked over there and saw that the "steps" were far too shallow to have fully hidden a full-grown man and there were no other holes or dips in the earth nearby.
I'm still extremely skeptical of ghosts for the reasons I posted above, but that was a pretty strange experience nonetheless. Until I see some good evidence for ghosts, I am going to assume there was a logical explanation for what I saw even though I don't know what it is.
Can not comment directly as this is spiritual and I think such matters should be kept to yourself and only to those close to you.
I can say this: I am doubtful of those who claim to have evidence of ghosts yet brings forth evidence that is flimsy and weak. Little less so those who claim to have had a 'spooky encounter' but have remained rational on the topic. The reverse is also true, as my doubts become multiplied if faced with those who claim to be mediums, 'sensitive' or other wise boast some regular connection with the dead. At the far end of the spectrum those who put on a TV show and claim to be paranormal experts, speak to the dead or generally 'hunt' ghosts... I find those last one are also doing it for money which breaks my rule on money and spirituality.
Simple put: Never trust someone who is making a buck of anything spiritual.
I can say this: I am doubtful of those who claim to have evidence of ghosts yet brings forth evidence that is flimsy and weak. Little less so those who claim to have had a 'spooky encounter' but have remained rational on the topic. The reverse is also true, as my doubts become multiplied if faced with those who claim to be mediums, 'sensitive' or other wise boast some regular connection with the dead. At the far end of the spectrum those who put on a TV show and claim to be paranormal experts, speak to the dead or generally 'hunt' ghosts... I find those last one are also doing it for money which breaks my rule on money and spirituality.
Simple put: Never trust someone who is making a buck of anything spiritual.
