Poll: GTA IV or Saint's Row 2?
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now, see, this one's weird.
By all accounts and reasons, GTA IV should be the better game. The plot is far more relevent in than SR 2 .And in GTA IV, the plot isn't simply "kill anyone who isn't wearing purple" the characters are far more realistic, and are more believable (many people above have stated that the characters in GTA IV are assholes. well, being a gangster doesn't exactly make you mister Sunshine. Nico is also a far better character than anything you can create in Saint's row 2. Nico Bellic is a bad, bad man. he's killed people, smuggled people, gone to war, and yet despite it all, it tries to be a good man. he tries, despite the fact that in this messed up city it will never work, to change. he's the kind of person who isn't shocked by what he has too do, because he's done it all before, but doesn't want to do it anymore. like a grizzled old veteran.
Also, the Voice over for Nico is just amazing. possibly one of the best VA's iv heard. SR 2's character on the other hand is voiced by a hilarious accent and a bunch of other voices I didn't bother to pick. the supporting cast in SR 2 meanwhile, is filled with Johnny Gat, an anger issue filled gangster who plays house with his fake-dead, soon to be dead girl friend Aisha, who get's STABBED IN THE CHEST WITH A KATANA, and refuses to die. now, I don't claim to be a master of the human body, but a katana is a blade of folded steel. you get stabbed with that, your not getting up. We also have a weed smoking Rastafarian girl, and a ***** who's name escapes me at the moment. and the only interesting thing about them was that the two of them shacking up together by the end of it caught me off guard.
So by all accounts, GTA IV should be the better game right? well, I haven't actually finshed GTA IV. the realism and the grit was all....too much. maybe it's the fact that im getting to old too invest the needed 10 hours a day of game play to beat a game like GTA IV. I will tell you that I beat Saints row. you know why? because if I ever got bored with the story or just wanted to stop dealing with the bullshit the story, or one of the many, many stupid characters was throwing at me, I just went and threw poo at someone's house. I think everyone should be able to at least once say, I shot poo at someone.
By all accounts and reasons, GTA IV should be the better game. The plot is far more relevent in than SR 2 .And in GTA IV, the plot isn't simply "kill anyone who isn't wearing purple" the characters are far more realistic, and are more believable (many people above have stated that the characters in GTA IV are assholes. well, being a gangster doesn't exactly make you mister Sunshine. Nico is also a far better character than anything you can create in Saint's row 2. Nico Bellic is a bad, bad man. he's killed people, smuggled people, gone to war, and yet despite it all, it tries to be a good man. he tries, despite the fact that in this messed up city it will never work, to change. he's the kind of person who isn't shocked by what he has too do, because he's done it all before, but doesn't want to do it anymore. like a grizzled old veteran.
Also, the Voice over for Nico is just amazing. possibly one of the best VA's iv heard. SR 2's character on the other hand is voiced by a hilarious accent and a bunch of other voices I didn't bother to pick. the supporting cast in SR 2 meanwhile, is filled with Johnny Gat, an anger issue filled gangster who plays house with his fake-dead, soon to be dead girl friend Aisha, who get's STABBED IN THE CHEST WITH A KATANA, and refuses to die. now, I don't claim to be a master of the human body, but a katana is a blade of folded steel. you get stabbed with that, your not getting up. We also have a weed smoking Rastafarian girl, and a ***** who's name escapes me at the moment. and the only interesting thing about them was that the two of them shacking up together by the end of it caught me off guard.
So by all accounts, GTA IV should be the better game right? well, I haven't actually finshed GTA IV. the realism and the grit was all....too much. maybe it's the fact that im getting to old too invest the needed 10 hours a day of game play to beat a game like GTA IV. I will tell you that I beat Saints row. you know why? because if I ever got bored with the story or just wanted to stop dealing with the bullshit the story, or one of the many, many stupid characters was throwing at me, I just went and threw poo at someone's house. I think everyone should be able to at least once say, I shot poo at someone.
To be honest, I'm not a fan of either. I like my gaming more strait foreword and would take Infamous over both these games. That aside, between the two I have to give the nod to Saints Row just for the simple fact I have finished those games. I've never felt up to finishing any of the GTA games and have gotten less further in them the more complicated they make them (I never made it off the first island in San Andrais). None of it is lack of skill, I just loose interest. in GTA 3, I opened up all the island and wasn't far from finishing, but just drifted away. I got a good way into Vice City, but not even close to what I did in 3, then in San Andrais I got a bit after getting thrown into the woods before I got board again.
I hoped that the time I've not played a GTA game would make it so I'd be interested again, nope. I got to the first choice of killing a guy for the story or not and then I went meh.
In both Saints Rows, I found that I would keep myself going a lot better, or at least I was enjoying the missions. Ultimately I think it comes down to just liking the Shooting mechanics better.
I hoped that the time I've not played a GTA game would make it so I'd be interested again, nope. I got to the first choice of killing a guy for the story or not and then I went meh.
In both Saints Rows, I found that I would keep myself going a lot better, or at least I was enjoying the missions. Ultimately I think it comes down to just liking the Shooting mechanics better.
Saints Row 2 is what GTA4 should have been after San Andreas.
I liked both games, but SR2 definatly has more fun and replay/mucking about to it. Story wise for me its a toss up. GTA's is obvioulsy more serious and real, which was good. However I felt there was not enough of the old, gang styles. Almost everyone worked for some dying mob boss.
SR2 also didnt have your fucking cousin call you five time a minute.
I've yet to play the DLC for GTA though.
I liked both games, but SR2 definatly has more fun and replay/mucking about to it. Story wise for me its a toss up. GTA's is obvioulsy more serious and real, which was good. However I felt there was not enough of the old, gang styles. Almost everyone worked for some dying mob boss.
SR2 also didnt have your fucking cousin call you five time a minute.
I've yet to play the DLC for GTA though.
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Calling those who like Saints Row 2 sheep when the biggest crowd (counting reviews at least) praise GTA IV to the skies and say Saints Row 2 is mediocre seems a bit odd. How can you not be a sheep if you are one no matter which one you prefer?BuGGaTon said:
As for me I dislike GTA IV for plenty of reasons and love Saints Row 2 for almost as many reasons. GTA IV got annoying phone calls, missions to get so drunk you would spend half the time falling over, one fourth of the time swearing in anger and one fourth of the time walking to get a car, 2 native Russians who for some reason only speak broken English because they don't know neither proper English nor proper Russian (I guess broken English is the language they speak in Russia) and of course crappy controls.
Saints Row 2 had a lot of customization, (cars, characters, gang), fun missions (sometimes good story too), insurance fraud, spraying crap on people, houses and cars, fun, annoying bugs, graphic flaws and much more.
Saints row 2 is far from perfect, but it did at least keep me entertained something GTA IV could not. I've tried several times to get into GTA IV and no matter how hard I try, I can't do it, it fills me with boredom.
I vastly preferred Saint's Row 2 which I completed, over Grand Theft Auto IV which I did not.
The range of activities and the whole character customization system in SR 2 really made the game for me. Not to mention the fact that this game proved that you could voice a protaganist and still have character customization by having multiple voice actors read the script and then being able to choose which voice you wanted to play for your character through the game.
Simply put, Saint's Row 2 was a lot more fun.
The range of activities and the whole character customization system in SR 2 really made the game for me. Not to mention the fact that this game proved that you could voice a protaganist and still have character customization by having multiple voice actors read the script and then being able to choose which voice you wanted to play for your character through the game.
Simply put, Saint's Row 2 was a lot more fun.
I prefer GTAIV.
Why?
I like to recreate car chases from the show 'Cops' and the games physics deliver.
Why?
I like to recreate car chases from the show 'Cops' and the games physics deliver.
Saints Row 2 couldn't hold my attention.
It constantly tried to shove something new in my face that would supposedly entertain me.
It has minigames, great! Most of them are just poorly made distractions from the actual game.
I never finished the campaign... Could never take it serously. Sure, it's a crazy and funny game, but I never really wanted to do anything because there was never a sense of urgency...
The graphics are very low-tech, and the arcade style vehicle handling got very old very fast...
I still like it. I mean, I play it every once in awhile...
Anyway...
On to GTA. Back in the days of San Andreas, there were people who complained that it wasn't realistic enough, since each progressive 3D GTA game got more and more realistic.
Yes, a large group of people were perfectly content with San Andreas, but those who said it was too arcadey got what they wanted. A fully realistic GTA. So, what do they go and do? They complain again that it's too realistic! Yeah well fuck you! There can't be a balance between ultra-realism and easy gameplay. It's either one or the other! Cars handle like shit? Get in a real car and try to drive the way you do in Saints Row... Go ahead and tell me what happens, I'll be right here waiting. I guess a large part of both games playerbases have never driven a car before...
Anyway, the driving mechanics in GTA are good in my opinion. Not perfect, but not shit. No game can nail a perfect driving experience, just get the fuck over it. I struggled at first to get my car from point A to point B, but instead of getting on the internet and bitching about it I got used to the whole thing. I can get my car from point A to point B, and then to point C, and then some! Helicopters are hard to fly? Well yeah! They're helicopters! You have roughly five buttons controlling ten different actions! What, do you think actual helicopters have a simple five button layout? No! They're difficult to fly both in real life and in the game for a reason! And again, they're easy to get used to if you don't give up and cry about it.
Er, now...
The story. It's...Well, a story! It's very engaging, it's got a sense of urgency, even though you can select to do a mission at any time, and it's good. The graphics speak for themselves... The characters may be all giant assholes, but lets see you go and live in New York under difficult circumstances without changing...
Er, other gripes... Saints Row is a GTA rip-off? Well while GTA did set the standard for sandbox games way back when, I don't agree that games similar to it are trying to copy it. Saints Row looks nothing like GTA. In fact, why the hell do people keep comparing them? They're both in completly different catagories!!!
It's like when everyone was arguing over Call of Duty 4 and Halo 3! They're completly different games! You can safely say that both are good, because each of them have pros and cons that seem to be opposites of the other.
I mean, fuck. Halo is fucking Sci-fi... Idiots...
I'm cutting off here, because I'm guessing someone is going to snip my post into organized arguments against me.
So fuck you ahead of time, because these are nothing but opinions!
I think I've made my quota for enemies today.
It constantly tried to shove something new in my face that would supposedly entertain me.
It has minigames, great! Most of them are just poorly made distractions from the actual game.
I never finished the campaign... Could never take it serously. Sure, it's a crazy and funny game, but I never really wanted to do anything because there was never a sense of urgency...
The graphics are very low-tech, and the arcade style vehicle handling got very old very fast...
I still like it. I mean, I play it every once in awhile...
Anyway...
On to GTA. Back in the days of San Andreas, there were people who complained that it wasn't realistic enough, since each progressive 3D GTA game got more and more realistic.
Yes, a large group of people were perfectly content with San Andreas, but those who said it was too arcadey got what they wanted. A fully realistic GTA. So, what do they go and do? They complain again that it's too realistic! Yeah well fuck you! There can't be a balance between ultra-realism and easy gameplay. It's either one or the other! Cars handle like shit? Get in a real car and try to drive the way you do in Saints Row... Go ahead and tell me what happens, I'll be right here waiting. I guess a large part of both games playerbases have never driven a car before...
Anyway, the driving mechanics in GTA are good in my opinion. Not perfect, but not shit. No game can nail a perfect driving experience, just get the fuck over it. I struggled at first to get my car from point A to point B, but instead of getting on the internet and bitching about it I got used to the whole thing. I can get my car from point A to point B, and then to point C, and then some! Helicopters are hard to fly? Well yeah! They're helicopters! You have roughly five buttons controlling ten different actions! What, do you think actual helicopters have a simple five button layout? No! They're difficult to fly both in real life and in the game for a reason! And again, they're easy to get used to if you don't give up and cry about it.
Er, now...
The story. It's...Well, a story! It's very engaging, it's got a sense of urgency, even though you can select to do a mission at any time, and it's good. The graphics speak for themselves... The characters may be all giant assholes, but lets see you go and live in New York under difficult circumstances without changing...
Er, other gripes... Saints Row is a GTA rip-off? Well while GTA did set the standard for sandbox games way back when, I don't agree that games similar to it are trying to copy it. Saints Row looks nothing like GTA. In fact, why the hell do people keep comparing them? They're both in completly different catagories!!!
It's like when everyone was arguing over Call of Duty 4 and Halo 3! They're completly different games! You can safely say that both are good, because each of them have pros and cons that seem to be opposites of the other.
I mean, fuck. Halo is fucking Sci-fi... Idiots...
I'm cutting off here, because I'm guessing someone is going to snip my post into organized arguments against me.
So fuck you ahead of time, because these are nothing but opinions!
I think I've made my quota for enemies today.
I liked GTAIV more because I enjoyed Niko's exploits in Liberty City. (Yeah, I was the guy who actually went bowling with Roman. I liked Roman. He gave me free cab rides.)
But for all purposes, play Saints Row. It's more fun because it doesn't take itself seriously. I didn't like it better, but that's because I'm unusual.
But for all purposes, play Saints Row. It's more fun because it doesn't take itself seriously. I didn't like it better, but that's because I'm unusual.
Sorry, but GTA lost any sense of realism the moment you could murder 15 people in broad daylight and get away with by hiding under a bridge for 10 minutes. I understood that GTA IV was trying to tell a story but the canon is really broken. It's hard to feel bad for Niko Bellic when all he does outside of the missions is kill pigeons, get drunk and cause riots.
At least Saints Row 2's story fit in quite well with the mayhem you'd cause outside of the storyline. You're a fucking gangster. You enter other gangsters territories and shit happens. You change cars and clothes so much that it's hard for the police to get tabs on you. Saints Row 2 lets you have your cake and eat it too.
GTA IV lets you eat your cake but makes you feel guilty afterward.
At least Saints Row 2's story fit in quite well with the mayhem you'd cause outside of the storyline. You're a fucking gangster. You enter other gangsters territories and shit happens. You change cars and clothes so much that it's hard for the police to get tabs on you. Saints Row 2 lets you have your cake and eat it too.
GTA IV lets you eat your cake but makes you feel guilty afterward.
I loved GTA4, but I've never played SR1 or 2. Luckily, I've heard lots of good things about both, and apparently they're both coming out in a $30 collection next month, so I will probably bite and enjoy some less realistic physics and just play what others have said GTA4 should have been more like. Hell, it will be nice just to play withou-
*ring ring*
Hold on a sec, Hello?
"HEY, COUSIN! HOW ABOUT WE GO BOWLING!"
Sorry, Roman, I'm busy right now.
"No problem..."
*click*
Where was I? Right, so it will be ni-
*ring ring*
FUCK!
*ring ring*
Hold on a sec, Hello?
"HEY, COUSIN! HOW ABOUT WE GO BOWLING!"
Sorry, Roman, I'm busy right now.
"No problem..."
*click*
Where was I? Right, so it will be ni-
*ring ring*
FUCK!
Well I have never played Saints Row 2 but I have played Saints Row 1, and really... seeing as Saints Row 1 allowed you to customize your cars to the way you wanted... I'm going with Saints Row 2.