I said that becasuse if I had explained my answer in a full rant, then i would get some idiot who takes things too seriously give me a reply rant. Well i got a reply rant wether i liked it or not, so thank you kind sir. And you really dont get it do you...... You need to watch ZP [http://www.escapistmagazine.com/videos/view/zero-punctuation/584-Spiderman-Web-of-Shadows] to understand.Stegofreak said:Okay...I really hope you know how foolish that statement makes you look. The original Killzone was released in 2004, a full two years before Gears of War?s 2006 release. Unless Guerrilla had planned to make a game about daisies and buttercups until seeing what EPIC threw up in 2008 then you can?t say that they borrowed from Gears of War 2.MercurySteam said:Hmm Halo 3 vs. "Gears of World War II". I'll go for Halo 3.
On topic both games have their pros and cons though personally I preferred Killzone 2. Much of it comes from the fact that both games were enjoyable to play but Killzone 2 had a proper last level. There really was no challenge to the ending of Halo 3 if you were anyway good at vehicle sections while the final battle of Killzone 2 was intense.
As for the online offerings, thank God Killzone 2 didn?t opt for that annoying matchmaking system used by Halo 3. I can?t remember how many times it found one less opponent than it required so it started the whole damned process again. Killzone 2 is the superior game, though that said Guerilla did have an extra two years over Bungie to perfect their product.
Well the parents just kind of sit at the table and talk politics. Only looking over every once in a while to talk about how times have changed from when people used to sit in front of the radio or read books. (derail thread time!)Rogue of Hearts said:dude your family sounds like a whole lot of fun. my cousins and friends used to do that with perfect dark for n64 and super smash. Dammit i feel old now lol.captain awesome 12 said:I prefer (note the word "prefer") Halo 3, merely because it's what most my friends play as well as what the rest of my family knows how to play. There's nothing like a system linked game of 4 on 4 CTF one side of the family vs. the other. Especially when you're yelling back and forth upstairs to downstairs about how your cousin sucks with the Sniper Rifle.
Yeah. I know you can jump in Killzone 2. I've played it. When I mentioned that I was talking about Killzone 1.Rogue of Hearts said:You CAN jump in Killzone 2.PirateKing said:I really didn't care for Killzone. I think Halo has a better story, better controls and better enemies.
To be fair, I've never played Killzone 1. Though I've heard it's not as good so it probably wouldn't sway me. I like to be able to jump in games.
I like killzone 2 because of the classes and the ability to rank up and the challenges you have to complete to get the ribbons which actually give you some cool rewards (even the extra points per objective or special kill feels like it's worth it). The warzone mode is also very cool, and special abilities like spawn grenades and cloaking and disguising oneself are fun to play with, although not always original. Also the multiplayer maps with all their complexity are great fun to play on because the way they are designed lets you approach the game in many different ways. Also teamwork is required by the game to win due to the limit on the skills you as a single player are allowed to use at any given time, while in halo 3 the most teamwork demanding aspects are vehicles and game mode. The boss fights and mini boss fights were really satisfying. The ending was also really my sort of ending. Also killzone 2 has (or had) bots that you could play against.
I like Halo 3 because I can play coop or versus with four friends on the same machine+tv setup. It also has a limited map editor (can't create entirely new maps but you can modify the placement of certain objects within them) called forge which you can use to modify a map WITH your friends (online and offline). Also the weapon selection seemed more varied than the weapon selection in killzone 2. And killzone's story mode felt a bit short and extraordinarily ordinary as in the most memorable parts of the story were the boss fights, while Halo 3's story was engaging enough that i felt the need to play the first two if only for story. Halo 3 also had a party mode. I can't begin to tell you how annoying it is to get 5 guys in the same room in Killzone 2. I loved the feel of piloting the Warthog and the tank.
And for the record, i have both games. I can't say I like one over the other though because of the timing I just happen to be playing more killzone 2 than halo 3 at the moment.
Yes! Derailing time!captain awesome 12 said:Well the parents just kind of sit at the table and talk politics. Only looking over every once in a while to talk about how times have changed from when people used to sit in front of the radio or read books. (derail thread time!)Rogue of Hearts said:dude your family sounds like a whole lot of fun. my cousins and friends used to do that with perfect dark for n64 and super smash. Dammit i feel old now lol.captain awesome 12 said:I prefer (note the word "prefer") Halo 3, merely because it's what most my friends play as well as what the rest of my family knows how to play. There's nothing like a system linked game of 4 on 4 CTF one side of the family vs. the other. Especially when you're yelling back and forth upstairs to downstairs about how your cousin sucks with the Sniper Rifle.
That's not fair, I know plenty of Xboxers out there with a wide and deep vocabulary, to sound shallow and self righteous I would have mention myself in this regard. I often run into PS3 fanboys who just shout drivel like:Zankabo said:I have played neither, and rather enjoy Left 4 Dead and Team Fortress 2.
On a side note, if I wanted to be dishonest I would just say Halo 3 because poking fun at PS3 fans is a lot more satisfying. They have a larger vocabulary than the Xbox 360 fanboys, and have this whole mac-useresque sense of superiority about them. So much fun to enrage!
Except that they did because Killzone 1 had no cover system. They also borrowed from Call of Duty (World War II) with the iron sights, again, something that Killzone 1 lacked. Let's not forget that the enemies really are just Nazis in space, just with British accents. Just listen to Visari's ideals. Totalitarian stuff right there.Stegofreak said:Okay...I really hope you know how foolish that statement makes you look. The original Killzone was released in 2004, a full two years before Gears of War?s 2006 release. Unless Guerrilla had planned to make a game about daisies and buttercups until seeing what EPIC threw up in 2008 then you can?t say that they borrowed from Gears of War 2.MercurySteam said:Hmm Halo 3 vs. "Gears of World War II". I'll go for Halo 3.
Wait, Killzone 2 had a story? I thought that the whole point of everyone else in that game was to give the space nazis someone else to shoot at you and make me hate them and be glad when they die in an extremely humorous cinematic. Or try to make emotional moments with characters who have only had ten lines. Or just flatout make me hate them and deeply regret them not dying or being able to kill them myself. Or totally take the job of 'leading' the squad. Y'know, the one that they said I'd be leading.Alpha Reaper757 said:I'v played both and I have to say both have there good and bad points ,in my opinion. Halo's story was kindda bland, while killzone's story was well planed out. But killzone's multiplayer gets alittle chaotic too often at times, ie. explosions goin off ALL over the place, while halo is a more simpler more pick up and play kindda thing. MY opinions not fact, but down to the point i like killzone 2 better.
I concur, so I'll depart with this.Zankabo said:I have played neither, and rather enjoy Left 4 Dead and Team Fortress 2.
On a side note, if I wanted to be dishonest I would just say Halo 3 because poking fun at PS3 fans is a lot more satisfying. They have a larger vocabulary than the Xbox 360 fanboys, and have this whole mac-useresque sense of superiority about them. So much fun to enrage!
First of all, borrowing a cover mechanism is hardly enough to justify calling it a clone which the original statement was suggesting (and yes I had previously seen the Zero Punctuation review and it annoyed me then too.) Secondly, while any comparison to other games is off topic from my original post (I was merely challanging the idea of Killzone 2 copying Gears of War) I'd point out that the iron sight thing is irrelevant as it's like saying that they copied Wolf 3D because it's an FPS. Certain things are required by FPSs now that weren't previously. Learn and evolve, that's what the industry has to do in order to survive.Miles Tormani said:Except that they did because Killzone 1 had no cover system. They also borrowed from Call of Duty (World War II) with the iron sights, again, something that Killzone 1 lacked. Let's not forget that the enemies really are just Nazis in space, just with British accents. Just listen to Visari's ideals. Totalitarian stuff right there.
Before you even think about mentioning the 2006 E3 trailer, watch it again. The animations are all basically ripped from Killzone 1. That means no cover system, no iron sights, etc.
Sorry, but your response just made you look even more foolish.
As for which game I prefer, Halo 3. It's balanced way better than Killzone 2 in my opinion, especially since the medic in KZ2 is a miserable piece of shit, especially when compared to the TF2 and R2 equivalents...
The Medic in Killzone 2 is great when you play him right. I play the Medic most of the time when I want to make the most points and normally I get the most points.Miles Tormani said:Except that they did because Killzone 1 had no cover system. They also borrowed from Call of Duty (World War II) with the iron sights, again, something that Killzone 1 lacked. Let's not forget that the enemies really are just Nazis in space, just with British accents. Just listen to Visari's ideals. Totalitarian stuff right there.Stegofreak said:Okay...I really hope you know how foolish that statement makes you look. The original Killzone was released in 2004, a full two years before Gears of War?s 2006 release. Unless Guerrilla had planned to make a game about daisies and buttercups until seeing what EPIC threw up in 2008 then you can?t say that they borrowed from Gears of War 2.MercurySteam said:Hmm Halo 3 vs. "Gears of World War II". I'll go for Halo 3.
Before you even think about mentioning the 2006 E3 trailer, watch it again. The animations are all basically ripped from Killzone 1. That means no cover system, no iron sights, etc.
Sorry, but your response just made you look even more foolish.
As for which game I prefer, Halo 3. It's balanced way better than Killzone 2 in my opinion, especially since the medic in KZ2 is a miserable piece of shit, especially when compared to the TF2 and R2 equivalents...