Poll: Halo: Did anyone actually enjoy fighting the flood?
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megs1120 said:
Pay attention to the creator and developer. Bungie didn't make Halo Wars. So that is why the Flood was in Halo Wars. The people that did create it had a durp-dee-durp moment and ignored canon that said that the Flood hadn't been released yet, so they couldn't be in the game.TundraWolf said:
I can see though how the Flood can carry weapons. The Gravemind controls the Flood, so it can make the Flood do whatever it wants. They aren't mindless because they have an actual mind controlling them, so they have the ability to pick up and use weapons.
They were fun and scary back in the original Halo. Then they kind of dropped the ball with the sequels. Halo 2's were too strong while Halo 3's were too weak. And they should have not been in Wars.
One thing I miss was the exploding carrier forms blowing each other up and flying across the map in the original. Also I missed the Human v Covenant v Flood v Sentinels in the original as well. Only Wars did this perfectly, in the final mission its basically in a giant circle with all factions battling each other as you try to escape.
One thing I miss was the exploding carrier forms blowing each other up and flying across the map in the original. Also I missed the Human v Covenant v Flood v Sentinels in the original as well. Only Wars did this perfectly, in the final mission its basically in a giant circle with all factions battling each other as you try to escape.
Actually, retcons typically refer to changes made on part of those who control the content, not fans.GrizzlerBorno said:
I'm not sure how the phrase could apply to what I've been saying in any case, though; the Halo series has had its retcons, but the Forerunner-Flood war has been generally clean of it, and I'm mostly supporting my points with direct evidence from Halo CE and to a lesser extent Halo 3 with only moderate speculation.
Plot devices are only problematic if they're contrived. Which I guess is how you see the Forerunners' dissapearance, which is fair I guess; to each his own. Personally, over the last nine years, I've considered it one of the more interesting areas of speculation, since there are enough bones to chase that make sense that it's more interesting than confusing. It never really struck me as problematic to the storytelling to not explain it either, since there was never any direct reason to explain in excruciating detail the entire Forerunner-Flood war in the main games. And I guess Greg Bear is writing that story now anyway.
I'll leave off with the last point about why the labs exist, though, without going too much into the realm of the extremely juicy speculation available on that subject: there was never any reason to halt research, since the extragalactic origin of the Flood meant that they possibly weren't all gone. And the Forerunner had probably expected that humanity would have gotten around to inheriting their stuff before the Covenant jacked it (Unfortunately, this is only really currently explainable by a combination of Halo 3's terminals and the novels, which when combined suggest that Mendicant Bias escaped the battle against Offensive Bias by taking off in the Forerunner dreadnaught that we're familiar with 100,000 years later as Truth's ship. Mendicant Bias' escape would have screwed with the Forerunner plan by delivering, post-array-firing, a great piece of Forerunner equipment to what would later become prophet-controlled space, and in doing so ultimately create the Covenant as we know them. Yeah, it's kind of a long story.).
Are you kidding?
I have memories of a school friend many years ago arriving in the morning a broken man. For those of you who have played Halo: CE, you'll remember trying to retrieve the Index (with levels fondly named Wait, it gets worse! and Fourth Floor: Tools, Guns and Keys to Superweapons) with slow doors, endless Flood spawning. He came in the next morning sleepless and a bit jittery: it was terrific.
I have memories of a school friend many years ago arriving in the morning a broken man. For those of you who have played Halo: CE, you'll remember trying to retrieve the Index (with levels fondly named Wait, it gets worse! and Fourth Floor: Tools, Guns and Keys to Superweapons) with slow doors, endless Flood spawning. He came in the next morning sleepless and a bit jittery: it was terrific.
I've seen it being used both ways. I dunno. If they release another prequel explaining all this stuff to the best of their abilities, then that too will be Retcon imo. And it will undoubtedly leave big continuity errors like Reach did even if it is great. (but let's not get into that, please)Tupolev said:
Yeah.....most of that went whoosh, over my head, because all of that is from the books, to which i'd say: If I want to read a Sci-fi Book, I'll read a sci-fi book. I'll read THAT book if it's good. but I won't read it to answer any question I may have had about the story, that wasn't answered in the game. Video games are a storytelling medium now. Hence they can no longer use books or films as crutches, (I'm not saying that the Halo books are crutches, I'm making a general statement. calm down) and if it leaves anything unclear, then that's a fault of the game.
They weren't bad, I think most people didn't like them because of the Library level in the first Halo.
Actually, the vast majority of the stuff from that paragraph is from Halo 3. The only extra clarification needed is a few lines from Contact Harvest showing that the AI on the Dreadnaught is, in fact, Mendicant Bias.GrizzlerBorno said:
But I of course can't blame you, since the Terminals aren't as well known as they probably should have been. It's quite unfortunate, really; the Marathon-style storytelling in the terminals is pretty awesome.
Why not? I'm fine with things that are interesting to speculate on, but I expect core arcs to be complete and not have holes in them. It's one of the reasons I like HCE more than the other campaigns; it tells a full and complete story. Sometimes, Bungie has used them as crutches (*cough*Reach Halsey Journal*cough*), and it's kind of annoying.
And I certainly agree, if that something is something that needed to be or should have been clear.
That's the thing that comes with the legendary edition of Reach right?Tupolev said:
Well, I'm glad we've come to an agreement.
btw is this a bad time to mention that i only ever played Halo CE, and watched Lets Plays for the other two? :S
What............I'm a PC gamer. (yes, i know Halo2 is on windows)
Yep. It's what resolves most (not quite all, but most) of the conflicts people have between Reach and the rest of the canon (though unfortunately it doesn't do as well with conflicts that people have with Reach internally). And you had to pay an extra $90 to get it. Lol.GrizzlerBorno said:
Well, I certainly won't say I'm surprised, though your situation is hardly unusual even for those who have played the games.
Depends on the game. The in Halo 1 were whores, (Really Bungie? Zombies with SHOTGUNS???) but were very fun and challenging at the same time. The Flood in 2 just sucked and the Halo 3 pure forms were simply badass.
I love the flood! I love mashing through their limbs with a shotgun and watching the little jellyfish-things swarming a dead body and ressurrecting it horrifically.
I do, however, hate the Halo 3 "pure" flood; the ones that aren't zombies, but just stupid looking yellow things. they suck.
I do, however, hate the Halo 3 "pure" flood; the ones that aren't zombies, but just stupid looking yellow things. they suck.
to be fair the humans who saw them didnt make it back to human space as far as we know.Thaius said:
Now in the case of the flood in the fps halo games...... first game good(they gave you the one weapon that made them all past at the begeining) second game they were more of a challenge as they should be seeing as they evoled with a great mind. 3rd game yeah no there should have been one level with them maybe two cause in that game they JUST WONT DIE!