I heard hard core in New Vegas wasn't too bad. So why not have it for Skyrim? I'd try it at least.
Poll: Hardcore Mode: Skyrim?
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Let me give you a quick idea of what New Vegas is like in Hardcore mode:Javarock said:
-You have to drink water every now and then. (Food and sleep are hardly ever needed)
-Healing isn't instant anymore.
-Try not to use too many ammo types.
-Healing limbs is a ***** in the early game, but gets easier once you can easily buy Doctor's Bags.
-Get the perk that halves the weight of anything under 1lb. Holy shit is that useful. Why do you ask? BECAUSE IT ALSO EFFECTS AMMO WEIGHT.
-Companions perma-die. In case of derpy AI, quicksave.
That's pretty much it.
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I liked it in NV, and would like it in Skyrim, although at this point (face it), it's only going to emerge as a mod.
Said modder would likely need to add in hydration related items- I doubt vanilla Skyrim is going to come with bottled/pouched water items.
I always wanted to try to absorb myself in Oblivion by actually using Inns when I didn't need to and eat when I certainly didn't either. Having a hardcore mode that promotes this kind of play would be a nice option.
Not being funny but that's the point you can turn it off. So it really wouldnt be a problem if those that found it too hard or didn't like it, didnt want it on.Reaper195 said:
They have said that they aren't putting it in anyway so I wouldn't worry.
Even though i didnt care for it in New Vegas, i WANT the option.
Why not include it? Theres no reason to not put it in the game. I think the problem was, in new vegas, it was to easy. If you played smart, you never took more then a round or two. But in Skyrim, i can see it really being a challange.
Maybe they also make it so skills take longer to level? And healing takes much longer. For more realism. And carry over the idea of crippling injuries. But dont make it so they get fixed instantly. Just because you wrap it in a bandage doesnt mean you can walk on it 3 seconds later.
I wasnt hardcore, to be HARD F*CKING CORE.
Why not include it? Theres no reason to not put it in the game. I think the problem was, in new vegas, it was to easy. If you played smart, you never took more then a round or two. But in Skyrim, i can see it really being a challange.
Maybe they also make it so skills take longer to level? And healing takes much longer. For more realism. And carry over the idea of crippling injuries. But dont make it so they get fixed instantly. Just because you wrap it in a bandage doesnt mean you can walk on it 3 seconds later.
I wasnt hardcore, to be HARD F*CKING CORE.
Yeah, but it better be fuckin' HARDCORE, because simply making it so that I have to pause every 10 minutes and open the inventory to gulp down some water (or just bind it to hotkey 7) is not hardcore. And heal-over-time stimpacks still heal a fuckload. Even on Very Hard and Hardcore active, New Vegas was (is, still playing from time to time) a walk in the park.
I played hardcore in Oblivion, Fallout 3 and NV (first 2 with mods, ofc). It doesn't add much to the game, it's more like drinking a flask in WoW, something you need to place in your bags and use when the red debuff shows on screen. I think that meat should get spoiled unless cooked, and even cooked food shouldn't last more than 2 days. Eating should take longer, maybe use it like the potions in Witcher 2. Find a safe spot, start a fire and combine eating with resting.
Yeah maybe. Not sure if it would just become an irritation or not, as I never played New Vegas. But I would definitely like to see a Survival skill and some good uses for it, maybe tracking and navigation or something, as I always liked the ranger-type characters.
But no Bear Grylls-style shit-eating please.
But no Bear Grylls-style shit-eating please.
Oh yeah. I loved the fact that they factored in sleep, hunger and thirst in NV, but not in a way that was too intrusive or debilitating. As long as you had a few food and drink items on you, you'd be fine, and you didn't have to eat and drink every five minutes, either. It was excellent and I'd love to see the same kind of immersion in Skyrim.
Even though it's been confirmed that it won't be in the game, I would have loved to have had a hardcore mode in the game. Especially with those really cool melee weapon finishing moves that they brought in - if you risk serious injury in fights, you tend to limit fighting as much as possible, which means that a crossing with a group of bandits turns into a seriously hardcore battle.
Well the point of games is to give you the most realistic and absorbing experience possible.
Arguably, that point could be used for both of the two sides (yes have it, and no don't have it). It could be argued that you would want to have to do all of the real life things, eating sleeping, dealing with excrement, etc.
The other side would of course be "I don't want to have to deal with that crap."
But I think that it would expand immensely on the game, and I would definitely enjoy having the option to play it.
What would be even better is if you had a menu in which you could check on or off certain things, such as sleep or having to use the bathroom.
That would be pretty weird though. Where would all that food go?
Also, would they have your body type change depending on how much you did or did not eat?
could you get diabetes in Skyrim?
There are endless possibilities to go with the Hardcore gaming style.
Arguably, that point could be used for both of the two sides (yes have it, and no don't have it). It could be argued that you would want to have to do all of the real life things, eating sleeping, dealing with excrement, etc.
The other side would of course be "I don't want to have to deal with that crap."
But I think that it would expand immensely on the game, and I would definitely enjoy having the option to play it.
What would be even better is if you had a menu in which you could check on or off certain things, such as sleep or having to use the bathroom.
That would be pretty weird though. Where would all that food go?
Also, would they have your body type change depending on how much you did or did not eat?
could you get diabetes in Skyrim?
There are endless possibilities to go with the Hardcore gaming style.
To really make sure the point is hammered through, hardcore mode is confirmed to not be in the game.
Bethesda has actually never done a hardcore mode (New Vegas was developped by Obsidian if you need reminding) and had no plans to start now.
I would've, however, liked for it to have been included. The only thing it hurts is development time on other portions of the game. But, it's no skin off my back because, as part of the PC master race, I'll have mods that add it in within a few days/weeks.
Bethesda has actually never done a hardcore mode (New Vegas was developped by Obsidian if you need reminding) and had no plans to start now.
I would've, however, liked for it to have been included. The only thing it hurts is development time on other portions of the game. But, it's no skin off my back because, as part of the PC master race, I'll have mods that add it in within a few days/weeks.
Only if they do a better job of it than in new vegas. It wasn't depth enough to even be called hardcore mode. All you had to do was drink a bottle of water every so often. More of a hindrance than hardcore if you ask me.
It was also a sort of "return to form". At least in the way that crippled limbs were handled and that you needed to carry water with you through the more desert like areas. At least I remember taking random "dehydration" damage in the first one.Odgical said:
Edit: Although I'm not sure how this would work in an elder scrolls game, it could be interesting.
Ehhh, I probably wouldn't use it much. It gets in the way of exploration and all the things I already love about TES. Maybe as something to do with a different character after I've completed the game.
Well, it's not like finding food and water was actually a challenge in NV anyway. For me survival mode just adds to the immersion and gives all the food, water, and beds some real use for once. (and no, beds should not be healing/level up stations)Hero in a half shell said:
You mean Skyrim, the large, open world of things you've never seen before where people use strange abilties and have crazy weaponry, along with monstrous beasts from your imagination that can attack you with strange abilities while you make your way through dank caves searching for the Shard of [INSERT GENERIC FANTASY JEWEL HERE]?Odgical said:
Gee, sounds pretty damned similar.
I would love a hardcore mod, eating, drinking and sleeping are obvious. But perhaps only being able to stay in a snowstorm for so long before you start to freeze. There might be obvious racial bonus there (Nords and perhaps Khajits last the longest, Argonians freeze quickly).
That said I'm the sort of obsessive fiddly gamer who'd love it if a game made me go to a banker to change silver into gold, so yeah.
That said I'm the sort of obsessive fiddly gamer who'd love it if a game made me go to a banker to change silver into gold, so yeah.